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The gathering of the elect mentioned in the Olivet discourse is the 2nd resurrection: Who is the elect? I think it's safe to say the elect is Christ, the Church, and the remnant grafted into the olive branch of Christ, the remnant saved. The next issue is proving that the gathering of the "elect" is the 2nd resurrection. Here's the proof: For one, the clause of This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. is what proves the gathering is the 2nd resurrection. These other verses echo the same thing, no death until the Son of Man comes on the cloud: This is what proves the gathering is at the 2nd resurrection, because it is only at the 2nd resurrection when all the dead are raised and judged, the only place anyone tastes death, the real death since creation. The Beast and the False Prophet tasted death a 1,000 yrs before everyone else, but this is where man tastes the real death for the first time, just before the entering into the new heavenly Shalem which is Christ entering into His kingdom, The darkening of the sun and moon and the stars falling from heaven is again the 2nd resurrection: Again this proves this is the 2nd resurrection because this is the "day of the Lord's wrath," "the day of the Lord," the day God avenges the blood of those under the altar who were slain for the word of God, which was the 1st resurrection. Again this is the 2nd death, the real death, the death Christ referenced when he spoke of the generation not tasting death or passing away until all those things were fulfilled, which is the fallen of the stars, etc.. The day of the coming of the Lord, what some call the 2nd coming, is the 2nd resurrection. when the "elect" are gathered. This is Christ coming into his kingdom. What was prophesied of those standing there in the new testament that wouldn't taste death until they saw. For those of you who think that this was suppose to be the end of the world and the book, it's not. The "devil" that was cast into the lake of fire after the 1,000 yrs reign was not the "Devil," though he deceived the earth when he was released, but was Gog, the Prince of Grecia and one of the 4 fallen, released Euphrates angels, as was the False Prophet. The "Devil" used him and gave him his power to attack heaven like he did with the Beast and False Prophet. The story of Lazarus and the Rich Man also proves that this is not the end of the world. Lazarus being in the lake of fire looks up and see's Lazarus in God's bosom and beckons God to send someone back to the earth to warn his brothers so that they too wouldn't end up where he's at. The 3rd and final resurrection is the "wheat and tare" harvest/rapture of this physical earth into the new Shalem or the the lake of fire. There is no "throne" judgement in this final resurrection. Food for thought!

Satan's ministers aren't aware of being used by Satan?

What are ministers?

Scripture says he might even be able to deceive the very Elect, so I don't think non believers are who is being referred to here. Only the wicked are blinded. Satan needs not deceive the blind because they are already judged as unworthy of the truth.

Spare me the details, friend. The remnant is all of Israel that was left, nothing left but the remnant. You are misinterpreting the OT prophecies which shouldn't be a surprise since they're more complicated to understand than the definition of remnant.

Wow! I've never heard of economic collapse being the eyes of God.

The difference being Satan's ministers purposely preach and promote false doctrine to mislead the flock.

What does that have to do with Satan having ministers of light?

Why the quote within a quote? Since when are you not aware of how to quote and post?

Yeah, I know the feeling. When you can't debunk the facts, you say stuff like that. Who says it will, me or the script? Oh, the games we play.

My words are not but words because it's not my words I'm using for proof. It is God's word. There are only two covenants, the old and the new, period.

They are not personifications. They are the fallen angels, five in all, the Beast from the bottomless pit and the 4 re;eased Euphrates angels. They are also the kings that represent the beast kingdoms in Dan 7:17, five and not four just like the horsemen. The same way the 4th horseman is followed by Hell the 5th horseman is the same way the 4th beast kingdom's 11th horn in Dan 7 is the 5th beast kingdom of feet of iron and clay, Revelation's second beast kingdom, the False Prophet. They are the eyes of God sent forth through out the earth, angels/spirits: Note they are the same color horses as the horses of the horsemen in Revelation, the bay being the pale horse again followed by Hell's horse the spotted/speckled horse. The red horse is the brown horse of course. The key phrases here are the "eyes of the Lord," "which run to and fro through the earth," and "stand before the Lord of the whole earth." Again these are the same horses with the same colors, the eyes/spirits of God. Who do you suppose the 4 horns of the Gentiles are, the 4 carpenters that come to right their wrongs and to replace them, and the two olive branches in Zec 4:14 are? I rest my case. The 4-5 beast kingdoms in Dan 8 are the 4 horns from Zec 1:18,that scattered Israel and had to be replaced, the fallen amgels, the 4 to 5 beast kingdoms.

High five.

You know way better than that: There is but two.