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These scriptures say nothing about a pre-trib resurrection, they are describing the resurrection at the second coming, and the resurrection after the 1000 years.

Show us chapter and verse that says there is going to be a resurrection of the dead in Christ before the second coming. Don't give us the talking points of the pre-trib crowd, just the chapter and verse.

I can read son, the Bible lists only 2 resurrections. The first at the second coming for the dead in Christ, and the second 1000 years later. Anybody adding a resurrection pre-trib so the pre-trib rapture crowd can seemingly have a resurrection to support their doctrine is dangerous. Read the last chapter of Rev. to see what happens to the people who add to the book.

Like I said the Bible only lists 2, you are now only adding 1

You have 4 resurrections listed here 2 of which are not listed in the Bible, are these other 2 resurrections special knowledge of the enlightened.

No you didn't, the order given in the Bible is the first resurrection at the second coming, then the resurrection after the 1000 year reign. Rev. 20

The expected end is an immortal resurrected new body.

This is the common error of those that teach the pre-trib doctrine, they add and take away scriptures to make their doctrine tickle ears. Read your Bible son don't change it to suit yourself

There is a rapture/resurrection, but it won't be pre-trib

This is not written in the Bible

If the Lord had put that extra resurrection in the Bible we wouldn't be having this debate, but since it's the pre-trib crowd that pencils the extra resurrection in just to make their doctrine sound like it has merit. I have to file that under suspect. I say the Bible has it right.

Are the new Christians in the tribulation not to believe the Bible as the word of God

One thing this thread has revealed is that the pre-trib doctrine can be twisted into anything it needs to be to tickle ears.

Shiloh can you have a go at this

So according to the pre-tribbers during the tribulation when someone reads the Bible and it says Christians are not appointed to wrath, they are supposed to say this is a lie?

Why are you all jumping all over Diaste, he has shown the err of the pre-trib doctrine and nobody refutes what he says, only the way he said it

Yep and there isn't one word in that verse that says anything about a pre-trib rapture. In fact if you want to read more about that verse read Rev 20. It will plainly show you when this happens. At the second coming

I have there is no verse in the Bible that even hints that a pre-trib resurrection of the dead in Christ is going to happen.

These are the raptured church at the second coming, there is no pre-trib rapture because the resurrection happens at the second coming. If you can show where a pre-trib resurrection of all the dead in Christ happens pre-trib please show me.

The Bible says there is going to be a great falling away in the end times, but the pre-trib camp says there is going to be a great revival. So which view should we believe, I think we are supposed to believe the Bible.

Read your Bible son

I thought the Bible says a number that no man can number came out of great tribulation. People can count pretty high these days.

Yes at the last trump the Lord comes back to rule with a rod of iron for 1000 years.

The only ones with the Lord pre-trib are the ones that have died, the rest of the church will meet the Lord in the air at His second coming.

Daniel you still haven't shown scripture that shows a pre-trib resurrection to go with your so called pre -trib rapture