simplejeff

Perhaps so, but not necessarily so. It would be extremely surprising if they are "all" right to an extent, since as written throughout Scripture it is just barely the righteous are saved, and this is "few", not many, and not all.

Well observed, good appraisal, yes. Spin being most and quite regular (considered "normal") on all internet and media news and forums, of course.

Second Thessalonians I Paul and Silvanus and Timothy, to the [local] assem- bly of Thessalonians in God our Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ. [Sanctifying] grace and [tranquilizing] (soothing) peace from God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ. <no mention, as in all greetings in Epistles/Letters of h.s. btw> We have a sense of personal obligation to be con- stantly thanking God at all times concerning you, brethren, even as it is fitting and proper [to do so], because your FAITH IS GROWING WONDERFULLY AND THE DIVINE and SELF-SACRIFICIAL LOVE OF EACH ONE OF YOU ALL FOR ONE ANOTHER EXISTS IN GREAT ABUNDANCE, ..... .... .... =========================================================== Note the description Yahuweh (God) INSPIRED as HIS OWN JUDGMENT/WORD of the EKKLESIA... This description, and many others throughout all Scripture, is certain, truth, and reliable. Compare what is written with what is seen anyplace today. (a sure test of truth and of authenticity). Jesus Himself, in His Own Words in the Gospels, from the Father, declared self-sacrificial living is the way of life. (the opposite of "getting"/obtaining/collecting worldly money or goods).

No. The end is already known.

He will return for those who are eagerly watching and waiting for Him. Like the Apostles and disciples eagerly expected His return each day in their lifetime, and served Him daily, lived in union with Him and with the Father daily, as ones who were going to be judged righteously. (as written) Salvation draws nigh ! Maranantha ! Come quickly Lord Jesus !

what about "a lie" ? < "God is not a man that He could lie" > who is given power over the world (society, men, even over the lives of believers, to behead them) ?

When a fisherman puts a cricket on a hook, to lure the fish to be caught, the "bait" is real. It really is a cricket. When the false church uses "bait" to draw in people, to lure them to be 'caught', the "bait" is real. i.e. they could use a "true" teaching , but people who are lured in are caught... (not always, but multitudes are) .... in a fully false system. In another post recently , in another thread, (several really), someone else demonstrated this (they got caught, lured in), by mac&*&^&*er's false gospel. (a very common one, widely 'approved') When this is brought to the light, exposed, it is so deceptive, they(many) defend their false gospel instead of escaping it. Some, (a few , as written in Scripture), are barely saved. What happens to the rest ...... (not good).

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Yes, (that) The false gospel is by far the most common gospel for unbelievers.

Righteous judgment, good judgment, is only source from God , not from experience (worldly).

Actually, it doesn't matter if eternal means forever or not. (in English) In Scripture it is often mis-translate , probably, to accomodate such doctrines as men like. Jesus says "BE TERRIFIED" (to believers in Hebrews), lest any one of you in your midst (believers) fails to make it... And with MANY other warnings throughout ALL SCRIPTURE, and by His Spirit, in Jesus, Yahuweh (God) exhorts the assembly of believers to BEWARE - so that no one become deceived by sin again, and fall short of receiving eternal life.

hahaha - I just had to laugh that "Luke is too long" ..... LUKE'S PERFECT ! (as are all SCRIPTURE!) Rather, what CONVICTS the person, believer OR unbeliever, to anguish for their sinful life, to Godly sorrow, and to repentance away from their selfish way of life ? Artist through Zoologist, Preacher or Teacher, Banker or Carpenter, Doctor or Nurse, Tax Collector or Thief or Prostitute ....... Who will give up their way of life to live the Way God Says to - self-sacrificially , obediently, faithfully every day ? Which 'Gospel' will they 'listen' (or see) to , if any , ever ?

That can be true. Not always though. Many times in life salvation in Scripture is daily, not one time. Were you saved yesterday from the gang deaths ? From plague ? (measles?) How? by death-dealing society, by evil men in the world system, or by JESUS ?

Replace "No" with "Yes" - Yes, Salvation (HEALING)(SAME WORD IN SCRIPTURE) comes through faith in Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world.

I enjoy the Bible, the Word of Yahuweh (God). It is a miracle to be able to have a Bible and to read it every day - a BLESSING AVAILABLE< (but not for all. For some it is a JUDGMENT, because they could have read it, could have believed it, could have done what God says, but refused, and rejected HIS WORD, OR misused it (like the scribes and pharisees who sought to kill Jesus) .) If one of the Bibles I read has something wrong, I lay it aside, or ignore what is wrong, as God leads. He KNOWS what HE MEANS.

So, then, the book/ research is totally false, based on false and misleading*** information ON PURPOSE (for money or power ) ? **As that is not even remotely possible - and was 'proven' impossible decades ago (no, don't ask for 'sources'). *** which the enemy of truth, the prince of the power of the air, SUPPLIES GENEROUSLY -- to deceive.... AND is welcomed by multitudes !

Sorry. Not even ..... (maybe once, for a time)..... Besides, today, it has been destroyed from within itself .....

The man of flesh, unregenerate cannot judge rightly anything. The spiritual man, regenerated, as written in Scripture, can judge everything. When anyone promotes the abomination of the nuns, the false gospel that destroys billions of souls, they sin, and might be the sin unto death (it is death for multitudes of others) ....

If only Jesus had this wisdom not to preach the truth - He would never have been arrested and executed !

YAHUWEH'S WORD IS WHOLE, COMPLETE , and IN HARMONY COMPLETELY - not to be broken, nor split up into pieces to believe some and not believe other..... Whoever rejects His Word is judged, or liable to judgment, for rejecting Him.

Right before the end of the book, all the saints who refuse to receive the mark are executed at that point. Millions have already been executed in the last 15 years for their faith. Millions more in the last century. Millions more have been tortured relentlessly perhaps, starved, died of thirst, been poisoned (on purpose) and so on .... THANKS BE TO GOD , ALL PRAISE TO HIS NAME --- WE HAVE HOPE IN RESURRECTION BECAUSE JESUS IS RAISED FROM THE DEAD NEVER TO DIE AGAIN< EVER! > ....

Some (as seen) are stopped; most sites and forums and chat rooms of all kinds are continually searched, and it is even published that in order to use many different services, like email, on the internet, you are notified that EVERYTHING IS COPIED, EVERYTHING ..... For decades it has been standard, every day, everything typed while connected to a computer is recorded, saved, and used against you when they decide to ..... HIGHER than top secret clearance needed - "EYES ONLY" - to find out...... or pay $500,000.000 for access..... /sarcastic/facetious/watchout/whoknows(all that IS HIDDEN SHALL BECOME KNOWN) Noted: nzkev has spotted bot ...... no worries - twenty or more bots continue collecting ..... Sometimes on some forums that make it visible, google, yahoo, bing, and baidu have 20 or more search engine bots working the forum at the same time, constantly copying, collecting and collating all data from everywhere.... Like Amelia Earhart ..... flies planes :) haha :) 'They' collect and destroy souls, as many as possible, continually...... from within , to outside, everywhere....

'they' don't ask - 'they' DEMAND with great penalties 'they' choose and use differently on different people depending on their 'orders' from rome...... never good, AND they charge money most of the time ... even for a place to sit in some of their buildings....

............ Baidu has copied this post, and collates it with AI for the pope and for others willing to pay for the service... When they decide, they will contact you, or terminate if they choose. (they do this to everyone, every forum, every website, everything posted anywhere on the internet, and things not posted anywhere also - they collect information from a myriad of sources planted in churches, schools, governments, businesses, etc etc etc

No one should wait - it may be too late - .... "TODAY, IF you hear the echo of HIS VOICE< seek out TODAY those who are faithful and true in the town lived in, locally, and remain with them in fellowship in Christ Jesus, not moving around one place to another " as written....