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Was that ever really a question ? Didn't Jesus say something like "Blessed are those who do not take offense ? "

Not necessarily. A lot of people have questioned the insecurity of the internet, government, etc and just get the run-a-round. "spin". Lies. People thought they could trust somebody (or something), and found out too late otherwise.

Already was, and is. As Y'SHUA, in the kingdom of YHWH (i.e. always subject to YHWH) says: "nor will they say, Lo, here! Or, Lo, there! For behold the kingdom of YAHWEH is in your midst.". By the finger of YHWH , remember ? And later the Apostles and disciples living as Y'SHUA'S on earth , in the KINGDOM of YHWH now, on earth.... yes. By the finger of YHWH, people are saved, healed, demons cast out, by the will of YHWH , people are born again, set apart, living HIS LIFE now, TODAY, on earth, with fullness (continually) of RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE, and JOY. Remember the KINGDOM OF YHWH is not food nor drink..... but "RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE, and JOY".... And so it is. HALLELUYAH ! Amein.

How often Y'SHUA said this to all (each one) of HIS disciples - "You must give up everything to follow ME". Crucifixion is complete - deals with everything, totally. The whole being/ person/ soul/ mind -- everything to the cross >< nothing of the flesh gets thru. Men's religions on earth all are different - all bring something - except the remnant YHWH calls and chooses - we desire nothing, we bring nothing, we have nothing to offer and know it. as Y'SHUA says "Everything born of the flesh is flesh, and profits nothing" and "No one can serve two masters" and HE delivers us from "the lusts of the flesh, the lusts of the eyes, and the pride of life" (all evil to avoid per OP ) HE alone is able to, and lived and died(was CRUCIFIED) so HE could deliver us, and was raised from the dead never to die again so that EVERYONE who puts all their hope in HIM may have hope for being resurrected.

Just noticed: note the contrast (as in the last two posts) in what YHWH (GOD) calls righteous, good and true, and what society (mankind, throughout history and today) calls things. YHWH is right. society is wrong.

Actually, according to YHWH'S WORD in REVELATION, and in GALATIANS, and in EPHESIANS (et al) all of what is above ground, accepted by most of society, and is promoted by most of society. key words/ search terms/ to see online exegesis from the BIBLE: < Galatians, pernicious, greek, wuest > There are other right and true online sermons and studies as well, verifying the completely wicked society we are all surrounded by.(not just music, not just what is called demonic, but most all 'babylon' (another key search term that helps see/ identify the evil in today's society as SCRIPTURE SAYS)

Well, what about the ecclesia in ACTS, EPHESIANS, PHILIPPIANS, THESSALONIA, even in REVELATION (the few) who are declared [NOT evil] by YHWH ? Are you or can you be or do you even WANT TO BE RIGHTEOUS as they were/ are ? They were called, I think, "BLAMELESS", "SET APART"(HOLY), FAITHFUL, etc etc etc throughout the NEW TESTAMENT, and likewise in the TORAH and OLD TESTAMENT those who please YHWH. (YES, pleased YHWH) (I THINK)..... i.e. people both in the OLD TESTAMENT, NEW TESTAMENT, and throughout history WHO did not STAY EVIL, nor did they live evil nor sinful lives on earth(AFTER turning to YHWH, being saved, being born again, or being immersed in Y'SHUA(continually daily (ABIDING in UNION WITH HIM) ) ) , ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE (YHWH'S WORD). i.e. look and see (YHWH WILLING) IN HIS WORD, WHAT HE SAYS, about HIS PEOPLE , that IS GOOD and RIGHT and TRUTH. Very very often we cannot see this in modern times anywhere around us. We are MOST BLESSED when we have, can or do see this TODAY. In any and all cases, always SEEK YHWH'S KINGDOM, and KEEP SEEKING. Never give up ! By Y'SHUA'S FAITHFULNESS, YHWH'S PROMISES are TRUE and (actually) UNbelievable to most people TODAY.

BIBLE CLASSES (STRAIGHT BIBLE (no traditions) ) GENESIS THRU REVELATION ARE A GREAT AND NEEDED IDEA AND PRACTICE ! So much was (and can be ) learned by reading the BIBLE, necessary for LIFE DAILY. ".... meditating on YHWH'S WORD continually, daily ...." not one day without !

This hits home in so many ways. It is very difficult to show a good testimony online, or in a letter, compared to the daily observation of one's life, activities, prayers and praises (daily every day actions, deeds, motives and purposes)... The most awkward and hardest to overcome 'battles' are that the grown and moved family , friends, acquaintances are more and more [apparently and often] subject to the multitude of influences that pulled them (and many others) AWAY from CHRIST, instead of moving them CLOSER TO CHRIST. i.e. there may be 100 different points of contact/ communication/ influence EVERY DAY, each and every one directiong people AWAY FROM CHRIST., and only 1 or 2 or 3 contacts/ communications/ influence [HOPEFULLY] EVERY DAY encouraging and strengthening abiding IN CHRIST JESUS. (see?) We live in such a world , and each person, family , relative, or other, must necessarily have their own free will and faith and choice and wisdom and endurance to KEEP PURSUING , KEEP SEEKING , KEEP REMAINING IN CHRIST JESUS. We HAVE HOPE IN CHRIST JESUS, and PRAY IN HOPE ... ... ... EVERY DAY... ... Sometimes, perhaps, more and more prayer (praying constantly, without ceasing, as it is written), may be our best course of action ---- then DOing, whatever YHWH (GOD) says to do, EVERY DAY. (with regards to EVERYTHING in our lives) . We simply are LIVING SACRIFICES every day, unto HIM, desiring only HIS WAY, Y'SHUA'S LIFE, HIS DESIRE, HIS WILL, totally ! YES ! (if our children, family, neighbors, friends, acquaintance, and co-workers SEE Y'SHUA'S LIFE IN US, and in the BRETHREN......... big 'if' ? ........ no. no 'if'. They do or they don't! )

This is perhaps the most grievous thing to see - whole congregation and audiences following media preachers who have in the last couple decades teaching others it is "NO PROBLEM" to get the mark of the beast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They started teaching this AFTER the government OFFERED IMMUNITY and SUPPLIES and SUPPORT to all the pastors who went along with it, and who would "train" their 'people' to go ahead and accept the governments actions !!!!!!!!!! Many many large groups of people were and are deceived by these wolves in sheeps clothing -- people who once had at least a semblance of LIGHT - yes they appeared at least to once have some kind of good testimony or witness of JESUS in their lives -- now just darkness following darkness .....

Likewise, perhaps a lot of people confuse "worshiping" with actually bowing down and paying homage or religious type worship, but I think in the original (and in some translations) it is written "serving" - i.e. to serve something, is at times the same as to worship it (or them). So if anyone "serves" money, they are in Biblical terms "worshiping" it, and it is their 'god'. If someone goes along with the government , trusting the government, relying on the government, they are serving or worshiping the government, instead of serving and worshiping YHWH. This is seen all through Scripture, and throughout history, including the present day. Thus the deception, great as always, overwhelming throughout society and many churches, is that they think they are not committing idolatry or serving other gods, while all along they are, culminating when they willingly take the mark (no matter what it is - they have already committed themselves to serving something or someone other than YHWH, they have already been and choose to continue serving whatever it is they are serving, INSTEAD OF CHRIST).

Perhaps. Perhaps[also?] this: (as HE says "ye must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect"; and "ye must be set apart(holy), as I (YHWH CREATOR) AM set apart (holy)"..... i.e. live life in righteousness TODAY, on earth.... as HE says. CJB But my prayer, in righteousness, is to see your face; on waking, may I be satisfied with a vision of you. CEV I am innocent, Lord, and I will see your face! When I awake, all I want is to see you as you are. ... ERV I have done only what is right, so I will see your face. And seeing you, I will be fully satisfied. .... EXB ·Because I have lived right [In righteousness], I will see your face. When I wake up, I will see your likeness and be satisfied.

and yet... ... ... yet... ... whenever anyone has published the (accurate and precise true) warning from YHWH'S WORD, nationally or internationally, (probably locally as well), they have been subject to immediate silencing[as possible] (including frequent martyrdom) , or arrested/ blacklisted/ banned/ as soon as decided by the ones in power or by those under them.

(cont.) No. Sorry. It only "appears" to have been initiated and instigated by the President of the United States. Yes, it does already have terrible repercussions, everywhere throughout the land (with any few exceptions possible by YHWH'S PLAN, PURPOSE and DESIGN in Y'SHUA for HIS OWN PLEASURE, as HE PLEASES) .... "1) Zechariah 12:3 became a blunt reality on December 23. This was the day the U.N. Security Council voted unanimously to come against Israel. America abstained which is essentially voting with the other members. She symbolically became the world's burdensome stone. This was initiated and instigated by the President of the United States which means terrible repercussions are coming to this land."

(cont.) Yes, exactly as written in SCRIPTURE (YHWH'S WORD). "2) The great falling away didn't stop falling in 2016. Many evangelical churches became nothing more than advocates for open borders and multiculturalism. The social gospel made such giant inroads and salvation issues became unrecognizable. Emergent/Postmodernism raged. Other churches fell into lukewarmness. Hardly any would deal with the issues of the day or the Lord's return. "

(baby steps/ one at a time, YHWH Willing, this and next 2 posts (instead of all in one) ) Just a couple footnotes/ comparisons/ different views here: (not necessarily disagreeing since I didn't read much more, no further, than these first notes on that link/page ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- haha - human perception! (at first and until just now I thought this said "man with a PAIN" .... (as in "acquainted with suffering" referring to Y'SHUA, and HIS children...) no worries though - reply here is the same in both cases - The answer - NO. There is no leader who can nor who will stop the chaos and heal America. YES, there WILL BE ONE WHO APPEARS TO. Already there is COMPLETE DECEPTION PLANNED (and ALREADY IN PLACE for over a century) for a long, long time, and prophesied in SCRIPTURE (YHWH'S WORD). QUOTE FROM PAGE/LING in OP : "3) The longing for a "man with a plan" was never so prominent. Even CNN's Home page begged for a man who could restore order. It asks in smaller print, "Is there a leader who can stop the chaos and heal America?" " ===================================================================================

Let's see then. Do you know what is the most profitable industry in the United States, (much much bigger budget and profits than the budget of the United States and the rest of the fortune 500 companies besides it) ? Hint: it is found in the original language of Revelation 18. (I don't know if it is ever found in english or not).

It was mentioned a long, long time ago. Perhaps just a "hypothesis", but I did a 1 second search : < Revelation 18 USA > it was an eye opener, to say the least..... the first several pages, about 25 titles, with the last one noted especially: Russia destroys the USA. These were a mix of religious, secular, and political sites. (THE USA appears to fit all or most of the criteria)

Actually, as written in YHWH'S WORD, there are not ones in CHRIST who reject those who CHRIST sent - CHRIST said plainly anyone who rejects who the FATHER calls, chooses and sends also reject HIM , and this is clearly seen to be true in all those who reject any of the ones the FATHER calls, chooses and sends [in the BIBLE, and in every day life]. i.e. if someone rejects Peter, James, John, Paul, or the little children of the FATHER, they also reject Y'SHUA MESSIAH, as Y'SHUA SAYS.

Amein, though this may be very difficult to understand ...... Simply, Y'SHUA always did what is perfectly just - and many still rejected HIM (as HE says will happen to everyone who chooses to follow HIM) .... i.e. we can do what is perfectly just, and will be rejected by others the same as Y'SHUA was rejected. Y'SHUA is the best example of perfect love also. (right?) ... AND STILL HE was rejected. (and is rejected by most people on earth). Doing what is "just" according to YHWH'S WORD, PLAN, PURPOSE and SALVATION in Y'SHUA is so very different from doing what is "just" by any other measure (perhaps opposite in fact?) .... it can take years , even decades , to "learn".... (since we are all (practically) taught wrongly from birth until being born again) .... Amein !

http://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_samuel/19-13.htm

1 Peter 4:1-2The Message (MSG) Learn to Think Like Him 4 1-2 ....... Think of your sufferings as a weaning from that old sinful habit of always expecting to get your own way. Then you’ll be able to live out your days free to pursue what God wants instead of being tyrannized by what you want.

Yes. It has been done. (elsewhere - not permitted on this site). But also you have been 'shown' over and over what is anti-BIBLE about rcc teachings. Those are the clue - those are what to avoid - whatever is anti-BIBLE. =================================================================== Yes, and can be both seen by outsiders, and also easily proven by testing - BIBLICAL TESTING, NOT testing by popularity(which so far has always been wrong; always. "popularity" is usually a good sign something is evil and wicked). (yes, even if a billion people or more go along(In REVELATION it is written the whole world refuses to turn to YHWH) , and it is still evil). ============================================================================= Yes. This is required. And expected of anyone and everyone seeking YHWH'S KINGDOM. Seek according to HIS WORD and HIS REVELATION - look and see : it is clearly visible when an assembly obeys and lives as Y'SHUA says.

. Amein. Also this: (is required, not optional, but rarely experienced) : "...Then opened HE (Y'SHUA) their (HIS disciples) understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,..."

Partly, yes. Talk of unity involving anyone who is obstructing it, or anyone who is willingly disobedient, or anyone who is willingly rebellious would be a sham. Impossible. Yet the world church is not only talking about this, they are achieving it ! (and have to a great extent). Beware though, and be aware, that that world church unity is not in Christ Jesus, and not of HIM. The unity, the union abiding in Y'SHUA, the answer to Y'SHUA'S PRAYER to the FATHER in HEAVEN, is already done. It is just as HE said it would be. It is not where people are looking for it.(and cannot be where they are looking for it, as long as they keep looking in the wrong places and the wrong ways). It is just where YHWH PLANNED. Just as YHWH SAYS. HIS WAY. (never man's way)