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Amen.

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As Alive said, = its all about "CHRIST's FINISHED WORK"... = That is the BLOOD BEING SHED and the DEATH that followed and then the Stone was rolled away. Jesus is RISEN. God offers this ALONE to accept you into His Family. Reader, is there anything you could do, of yourself, that can measure up to the BLOOD of JESUS? Yet, many are trying to keep themselves saved, and that is YOU trying to equal the BLOOD OF JESUS. STOP, and put all your TRUST in Christ ALONE to save you and KEEP YOU SAVED.

You are trying to make Hebrews Ch 4,6, & 10 teach traditional LEGALISM. I'll tell you what.... If you agree that a born again believer can't lose the Grace of God (their salvation) then you have shown me that you understand Grace. Do you agree that a born again believer can't lose the Grace of God ? (their salvation)? As unless you can admit this, publicly, then you are a proven and called out teacher of Legalism. = Bottom line. And if that is so, then that is why you only look for verses that you can then reconstruct contextually into self saving - Grace denying - Cross rejecting Theology.= (Legalism) So, prove me wrong. Tell me that you believe in Eternal Security and that being born again can not be changed or undone, and that a born again person cannot "lose" the Grace of God (Salvation)... and following that, we can talk more about the NT, np. Let us know.

Thank God you live in a Country were Obama is not STILL opening wide all boarders, starving and shrinking the military, helping the Iranians, empowering homosexuality, trying to delete the Constitution, trying to take away your Guns, and allowing all countries around the Globe to continue to empty your pockets with their outrageous import tariffs. I remember reading a faux quote where Obama said....>>"I am going to deliver the USA from the Scourge of PROSPERITY".......and he certainly did try.

Right on target. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Also, we must be the most careful when an unbeliever shows up and asks us a question. Some who are immature, want to turn that Request Help Thread, into a bickering and now hijacked Theology debate. Dont do that. We are not to point a finger in their eye. We are not to condemn them for their lack of faith. We are not to position ourselves over them, as if we are some glowing HALO of self righteousness. We are only to give them the Truth in Love and more of it, which is to show them CHRIST, as we are the only Jesus they know, READER ! Now, if they are here to TROLL, and AGITATE, then the Mods have to step up, step in, and do their job. Otherwise, we are to be Light for their darkness and the living arrows who point them to the WAY. . who is JESUS on the CROSS.

If water could save. (water baptism is water)... then we'd all be saved then saved again every time we take a bath, a shower, get caught out in the rain, go swimming....etc. The water has no power to save. Its only water. The Catholic bible that is a man made cross denying farce, teaches this. "you are born again by water". This is the Catholic heresy defined as "baptismal regeneration" or, the water, the act of water baptism, regenerates the Spirit. or "Born again BY water". = This is a Christ rejecting lie. God requires BLOOD , shed blood, the blood of another to pay for SIN and that is how and why. In the OT< you had animal blood shed that was not able to offer a "once and for all" forgiveness. But JESUS "has obtained ETERNAL REDEMPTION for us".....Because He is GOD.. And God's BLOOD is an eternal sacrifice, that once applied to you, (born again)= saves you and keeps you saved.

Freedom from Sin, is to not have any knowledge of it. As by being sin conscious, you put yourself under the law, and then the law drives you to sin. Grace, = the blood of Jesus that freed you from sin is your new life in Christ. By understanding that you are freed from the Law, you are free from the law's control.

Gnostics were Jews, "jewish mystics".

Those Hebrews who rejected Christ "crucified Christ afresh". This is not just Hebrew unbelievers. This is everyone who rejects Christ. Think of it like this. .... The Hebrews who rejected Christ said "crucify him, crucify him"..... And that is the end result of their Christ Rejection. They nailed Him up. So anyone who rejects Christ, did so "WILLFULLY"< and have literally nailed Him back up on the Cross. If you do that, you are this. John 3:36 """"ALL that believe on the Son have everlasting life: and ALL who REJECT the Son shall not see eternal life; but the wrath of God abides on them.""" Those unsaved Hebrews in those verses, rejected their Messiah, and paid the eternal price.

Yes, i understand what you are saying. As a matter of fact the best Christian i personally know, was saved without ever reading a bible. They were saved while watching Jesus of Nazareth, the Movie. And now that you are saved, im sure you love the word of God... and have deep respect for it. I wish all did., but that is not the case on This Forum. So, my post you responded to with your Testimony to the fact of God's Amazing Grace, was sent to someone who is not really a person who is deeply familiar with the bible, and after some weeks of arguing with me that all that matters to Jesus, he tells me, is that i "repent", i was reminding him again regarding WHY that Bible is not just a "book", as he believes, whose sole purpose it to help us find Jesus, and nothing else.

Actually, anything that is revealed that exposes truth, is a good thing. And as i told you. You should relent and repent, regarding your carnal personal insults, and instead seek my THREADS that ive posted in the Theology Section. It would do you a lot of Good.

"""""Live your life Maxxed out, and fully engaged"""", does not imply to live in sin. See, many Christians are so under bondage to the law, in their MINDS.....They are SO concerned with trying not to go to hell.... because..... they still have not understood that New Life "IN CHRIST" should have replaced all that mental dead religiosity they are in bondage to, the day they were Born Again. So many believers are still trying to EARN what Christ has already FINISHED. People who can't relate to Grace, and reject it.... teach James... as "dead faith" means "salvation is lost", but actually Dead Faith happens because a Believer is not resting in the Grace of God and is trying so hard to try to get God to keep accepting them, that all this straining and emotional toll burns them out, and they become a christian burn -out. That's dead faith. Thats NO JOY, no power, no freedom. Real Faith, is understanding that Salvation is not to be KEPT, its a GIFT THAT IS TO BE ENJOYED. We are supposed to ENJOY the fact that Jesus has redeemed us from all our Sin, and CAUSED us to be accepted by God. = THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL, Reader. ! We are supposed to REST in that Eternal Security. The security of knowing that God now owns us, that we belong to God because we have been purchased by the Blood of Jesus. Most Christians will live out their life trying to make sure that God won't get rid of them, instead of understanding that God would never Bleed and die and suffer to then let you go later. You are "bought with a price" and that is God's Blood, and that Blood never stops keeping you saved. And a religious person says..>"yeah, but what if i do this"..... and God says. SEE THAT BLOOD ..It paid for that, and it paid for the next one.......ITs ALL PAID IN ADVANCE. See, the Blood of Jesus is 2000 yrs ago shed, and its still forgiving sin and keeping the born again redeemed.... 2000 yrs later. And that means you Reader.....if you are born again.

Can you post some more superfluous innuendo? I believe you can. Listen, its not "my doctrine", its Paul's. And there is nothing complacent about my work for the Lord. If you think that my teaching is "complacent" then you reject Paul's Theology. I teach Him. Just like every truly called 5-Fold minister will do, all their life. Heresy exists outside of Paul's Theology, regarding any person's teaching, = 100%. Search the WORTH "Theology" Section and read the 1st year Seminary Class ive taught here..for 3 yrs. Or, just pretend that you know what you are talking about. You choose.

Yes. The truth is, you can't get closer to the truth then Paul's epistles, as Jesus who is THE TRUTH took this man aside for over 3 yrs, and taught him PERSONALLY... = about 75% of the NT. Jesus into Paul into Us. All the Gospels and all the Epistles are God breathed. But the doctrine for the Church and the inner foundations that God builds as our Spiritual IQ, come from Paul. Everything we know about Spiritual Gifts, how to pick a deacon, how to pray for the sick, what constitutes a marriage, justification by faith, how to choose a pastor, the preaching of the CROSS, spiritual circumcision, (what to Phil. 4:8 think on), even how to behave in the bedroom with your mate..... on and on and on....- Paul's epistles. Jesus started our Salvation with His own blood, and Paul teaches us the why, when, what, how, regarding God's Redemption.

Let me ask you 2 questions, and then i'll show you some more truth. Q.) Do you LOVE the word of God? That is the bible. Do you love it? If not, why not? ------------------------------------- - The Bible is the word of God. Jesus is the WORD of God. Jesus is the Living Word. The Bible is the living words of God. The words in the Bible are Light and Truth, and Jesus is THE Truth. The longest verse in the Bible says that the words of God are exalted Higher then the Name of Jesus, and "the Name of Jesus is above every name". Salvation comes by hearing the words that are found in a bible.. "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God". The word of God is the Bible. We understand that Jesus exists and the Cross was raised because words in a BIBLE are the literal History of this Truth. We understand that GOD created it all, because of words in a BIBLE that teach this TRUTH. We understand that Jesus is RISEN< because words in a BIBLE informed the Encyclopedia and WIKIPEDIA. If there was no BIBLE, you would not even know that there was a GOD to worship and a Jesus to ADORE and BELIEVE IN. If you are a born again Christian, its only because the words in a BIBLE came to you and you believed the WORDS. The "seed" of the word, are the words in the bible. The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, and men just wrote it down. The Light of God is both the Lord and the words of God. (Bible).

Quick answers to your bible questions. You are indeed 'one flesh' with the man, but you are not joined to him by marriage, because God does not allow an unbeliever and a believer to be married. In Corinthians, where you read that If the unbeliever wants to stay with the saved "HUSBAND", or vice versa, then she/he should if they are agreeable. But you see, you were not Married when He became A Christian. So that verse means this. If 2 people are together, living together, and they are married and one of them gets Saved.. Does the mean they have to part. A.) No. But that is not your situation. Are you unequally Yoked? No, because you are not actually married. You are simply "living in fornication" with a Christian. Adultery is not an issue for you 2 as you are not married.. No worries. Ok, now to your Thread's main question. When you are in a situation or lifestyle that is not allowed by God' permissive will , then you have to accept that any real answer you get from a biblical standpoint is going to resist your hope. Thats just how it is. That is how it works. See, you can't by lifestyle exist outside of God's rules and then try to them make them fit your need,...as that can't possibly ever work out out as you want. OK? Just keeping it real for you. Im just answering you as if you walked in off the street and knew that i was a Teacher and you wanted to ask me your Thread's question(s). - We live in an interesting time. There are many things that are "Legal", culturally and socially, but are illegal according to God. There are many things in our culture that are accepted and tolerated and many of these deeply offend : = How God views "right" vs "wrong". Yet, they are legal. Legal, however, does not make them RIGHT according to God's Holy moral viewpoint. God does not create standards of morality and ethical boundaries (Commandments) so that He can ruin love or create mindless robots. He gives rules and regulations so that by existing inside them, you dont end up in a heartbreaking mess and a completely untenable situation that has no answer that does not torment, long term. See, that is WHY He gives rules. Jesus deeply and completely understands what it means to suffer a tormenting situation, and provides the BOUNDARIES that keep us from that SUFFERING. The bible you own says that "God is touched with the very feelings we feel when we are hurting". God became ONE of US....So, He is genuinely associated with how we feel, and why we feel it. - The answer that i can give you is not going to make you feel better.... And the answer i give you is not possible for you both to >continue< to do....So, its no answer for you both, as you can't do it... But i'll give you an answer so that you have a final one. So, if you want to LIVE with this man, you have to do one thing. You have to stop having sex with Him. Fornication has to end, now. If you can't, and i dont think you 2 can, then you have to stop living with Him, and just continue the relationship, celibate, and apart. He is under no Spiritual Obligation to stay with you, He is under no Biblical responsibility to recognize a "common law" marriage, as He is under God's authority FIRST. So, if you both want to live in that situation, so that you can stay together, then that is your only "Biblical" way out. And its no solution for you 2 because it can't be done. You would both have to live a celibate Lifestyle. And if i was your spiritual leader, i would press you to understand that because your fella is a Christian, he is warned not to do anything that has even the "appearance of sin"... So, of course living in an unmarried experience, would obviously be viewed as this very thing. However, as to you, im just a faceless nameless Teacher on a Public forum, you can realize all that, and if you both can stand that situation, then that is all that he is allowed to do. Perhaps you could explain why you have such a head knowledge of Christ, but not a Heart trust? You seem to not be a true atheist, but you do seem to be a very determined Agnostic. Is there something about Jesus that you can't love? Are you offended somehow by Christians who have mistreated you with their words and attitudes? Did a church let you down? What is keeping you from enjoying the Love of God by giving your heart to Jesus? I want to pray for you, and the real believers here will agree with my prayer because we understand that when any 2 agree regarding a situation we are asking God to resolve, He will hear us and He will do it..... - Father, Thank you for the Lovely Jesus, who is The Beautiful Savior and The living Light,... who ALONE is OUR only hope for today and THE only hope for tomorrow. Father we thank you for the Cross and the Blood of Jesus that has forgiven our sin and thru this redemption has allowed us to be a part of your eternal family. Father you know this person who im talking to, and you know the one she loves. Father you see this situation that is causing such distress, and so we ask now in Jesus's name that you reach into Her Heart with your love and into their Lives with your Grace and resolve this problem they are suffering by giving them GRACE and Deliverance and a Final solution . In Jesus Name I pray, amen.

"post fornication one wants the other back". Well, if they are both unbelievers, you can pray they will become born again. If only one is a Believer, then they can't marry the "post fornicator". If both are believers, born again, then that gives them the right to try to make it work, but does not give one the right to force the other into a relationship. See this is the problem with fornication, and its why Paul tells you to FLEE, to run from it. Do not think you can control yourself. What you do it GET OUT....LEAVE. And when 2 dont, its very possible that a situation with a child will arrive, and that is just the worst of all.. A baby born out of fornication, no real "parents". The innocent child delivered into an extreme situation, and the kid never even had a childhood yet. Look at that mess. Look at that life destroyed before its even able to take its first step. Sure, there are miracles. There are those who are born into this hardship who end up as remarkable examples of will and God's Grace. But thats not the rule. Thats the exception.

The only 'pressure" that was being put on those unsaved Hebrews, was the Conviction of the Holy Spirit while Paul was preaching the Cross. They had the very same reaction to Stephen, and stoned him to death. Another notable case of Hebrew Messiah rejection, was the crucifixion of Christ. Listen, you find yourself at odds with the Grace of God. My advice to you, is to find a different reason to spend time on a Christian Forum. As when your purpose here is to only try to deny the effect of The Grace of God and subvert the faith of real believers, you find yourself at odds with the Cross. Being in direct opposition to the Blood of Christ and His finished Work, is not what you want to be doing.

Nice story, thx for sharing it. Every 2nd Chance , is a new beginning. God wants us to make our marriage work. We devote ourself to making it work. WE give our all. Sometimes a circumstance or just a person who is a living Devil, creates no other alternative then for us to find a brand new life without them. Every 2nd chance is a new beginning. Listen Readers, God is not a slave driver. He is not in the business of seeing if He can break you down to see just how much you can stand. The DEVIL is the destroyer.....GOD is the NEW LIFE GIVER. God is Love. God is the author of the endless 2nd Chance. You get knocked down, you get up bruised and maybe bleeding. So, you rest a bit, heal a bit, think about it some.... and NEXT.... you climb back into the RING and you take another SWING. Live your life to the FULLEST.. Live MAXXED OUT. Every DAY is a GIfT. Open it with a thankful heart. God gives us "all things richly to enjoy".....and "richly" means, with great pleasure and fulfillment.

Bad teaching, produces bad students. Immoral teaching, produces immoral students. Some are taught that they are to keep themselves saved by trying to conform themselves into Christ. Thats really bad teaching. To teach that a person is to try to keep themselves saved by not EVER being able to do, what only GOD can do. Thats theological insanity being taught, and a lot of sincere believers are infected by this type of heretical MIND trap. --------------- "Jesus SAVED" See that "D". That is referring to all the Born again. That never ends. Being born again will last exactly as long as God LIVES. That'll be a while....

God does not see any record you have, had, or will have. So, what you see, is not what He sees. When God looks at you, He sees the blood of Christ. Nothing else. So, SEE YOURSELF as He sees you, and then you are in line with the Truth. When you are BORN AGAIN, you are now become THAT... That what God "sees"., today, tomorrow, and forever.

I didnt say what you are stating........ I didnt say that we are as wise as Christ, ... What i said .... is that we have the Entire TRUTH, which is Christ Himself. See, if we have Him, we have THE SAME TRUTH IN US. You are speaking in a secular way about truth as it would be defined in a Dictionary. Im not. Im speaking about what the bible teaches. Its this verse dhC, Colossians 2:3. :" in JESUS, whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." So, do you understand THIS VERSE? = "Christ IN YOU the Hope of Glory"? Are you aware that a born again person is "THE TEMPLE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT"? Do you understand that to be Born Again, is to be in Eternal Spiritual UNION with God and Christ? So, Colossians says that Jesus is "all wisdom and knowledge." And this means that if HE is in you, then along with Jesus comes all THE treasures of wisdom and knowledge. All of that is True, and that is was i was explaining to YOU. Listen, Christ said. "apart from ME, you can do nothing"...And that means, when you try to think it out, work it out, figure it out, and present it, you are presenting YOUR STUFF. And the dictionary defines that as "opinion". We are not to give OUR opinions, we are to allow Christ to flow thru us, so that HIS TRUTH is being radiated and released. WE are the VESSEL, only. See that is the issue with 99% of "teachers" who can't teach any Truth. Its because they are trying to "sound smart" and give fake impressions of spirituality, and so, what they say has no power to transform, and that is because the words of man are dead until the Spirit of God anoints them, and flows thru them. The church is filled with shiny gleaming well dressed well manicured Spiritual Zero's. 0000000000000,0000000000.......>. "vain janglers". Many of these live on Christian Forums. They speak perfectly dead "Christianeze".

I think you need to find the Theology Section here, and read my many Threads. At least one of them is talking about Hebrews Ch 4, 6, and 10, where all Heretics live. Paul is not talking to the Born Again, in those verses. He is talking about the BLOOD ATONEMENT. He is TALKING ABOUT Christ on the Cross. He is warning these HEBREWS that to Reject Messiah, is to reject the only sacrifice and pardon for Sin that God offers. And if YOU "sin willfully" and REJECT CHRIST, then you have stomped your feet on the Blood of Jesus ("trodden underfoot), and "crucified Him afresh"....= CHRIST REJECTOR...... and so once that is your final answer there remains 'NO MORE SACRIFICE" FOR YOUR SIN, because you have REJECTED THE ONLY SALVATION THAT GOD OFFERS YOU. = JESUS THE CHRIST That is what Paul is telling these UNSAVED HEBREWS. HE IS PREACHING THE CROSS and He is ON FIRE.. He is angry, He is blistering them with WARNINGS, He is showing them the SIGNS OF AN APOSTLE "tasted the heavenly GIFT"..."signs are for the JEWS/Hebrews"..... and they are still spitting on Him, rejecting Grace, Denying that Christ is Messiah, and He is literally fighting with them about this in the Spirit as well as with all his spiritual power.. In Acts 28, if you read the last 10 verses, you'll see this situation playing out, and Paul finally tells them....>"DONE WITH YOU< !!! DONE @!!! Im taking this GOSPEL TO THE GENTILES". !! And he did.

Paul said to "follow Him as HE FOLLOWED CHRIST." Jesus is our Savior, while Paul is the Church Doctrine instruction manual. Paul was sent to explain it all, regarding church Doctrine. We have a bible now. We see that Paul's words, inspired by the HS, are Bible Scripture. However, when Paul and Peter were alive, they had no Greek Text. They had no KJV< or NIV, or ASV, or any of this.... They had the Torah. Peter, at that time, talking about Paul's letters, that later became our BIBLE,... said AT THAT TIME, that Paul's Letters were Scripture. So, that is an Apostle, referring to Paul's letters as EQUAL TO THE TORAH. And He was absolutely correct. We live in a "church age" were Bible correctors thrive, New Versions are awful, and the Thread that runs from Jesus thru Paul that became our NT, is very lost, regarding so many believer's Theology. I'm sort of a "last of our kind" Believer Teacher. As I Teach Paul, and this is becoming rare, as we are in that Church Age were opinion has replaced Truth, and Status has become the "new holiness". "Look, i have 40,000 people on Sunday...so, that proves God is in it". "BIGGEST means GOD IS WHY" No, it proves that you need to be admired.