PlanetChee

If I may. I did not say that what is attributed to my name in quotes. That is Spidermans posting that you have quoted and now responded to.

May God bless you as well.

I don't think it appropriate to interject unsubstantiated conspiracy theory into this thread when what is a fact is American soldiers, women and men, were slaughtered by Nidal Hasan. Please understand. Thank you.

Had Hillary been elected we'd be in dire straights. The State Department during Hillary Clinton's term as Secretary of State shut down surveillance of suspect radical Mosques due to her influence. And a whistleblower came forward and admitted the San Bernardino terrorist assault could have been stopped if not for that. Blockbuster: DHS Whistleblower Says Obama Regime Shut Down Probe That Would’ve Stopped San Bernardino Attack Dec 11, 2015 Amen! Hillary screams against everything Trump does now to secure this nation from terrorists entry. Even the courts that try to stop barring of foreign nationals into this country from terrorist states are overstepping their authority. And they're all left leaning you notice. They have no right to do that and no legal authority to revoke President Trump's travel bans either. Of course the reports here in the left wing media is, no proof! No proof ISIS was behind this. But they don't say that when lies and distortions and fabrications with zero evidence are broadcast about President Trump, and the Russians, and all manner of other manufactured lies. But when it comes to ISIS being responsible for this Manchester suicide bomber, oh, there's no proof! Well, there is ISIS admitting responsibility. And there's one dead bomber who will never see 23. And there are the dead and those who may still die due to his detonating himself at a concert. But that's not proof! ISIS claiming responsibility isn't proof. It's just ISIS identifying with a dead british citizen born and raised suicide bomber. That's not proof in left wing media circles. The worst among them though wasn't as bad as Barack Hussein Obama. When the Muslim terrorist psychiatrist at Fort Hood opened fire and murdered military personnel getting ready to fly to Afghanistan, a man who the Fed had had under surveillance for over a year and knew he was visiting radical Islam websites, Barack Hussein Obama called the mass murder by that Muslim terrorist psychiatrist, workplace violence! Not a Muslim's terrorist attack against American soldiers on an American base. Work place violence! He left office out of handcuffs without being arrested for treason. And Donald Trump has a little over 100 days in office and left wing media promotes lies, gossip, and zero evidence accusations against him while using keywords like, impeachment! And even treason. But when Obama committed treason, not a peep. Good thing Barack wasn't in office in 2001. Or that September day left wing media likely would have reported bad flying in Manhattan left thousands dead.

Thank you. You took the words right out of my mouth.

Thank you for that explanation. I do know what you mean now. I've been on the receiving end of such presumptions myself. It is presumptuous of certain kinds of folks so committed. And then there are those too that may not realize the error in their zeal to help people find salvation. Which is why it is always best to be gentle with such presumptions when they make their approach to someone who is already in Christ. Thank you again. Blessings,

And more than one precious child has died due to the parent(s) being Christian Scientists. Headlines report of a lost life that would have been saved had the devout parents only realized the answer to their prayers was God creating humans to have the intellect to study medicine.

I do agree. I look forward to the future. Especially for my country and with this president at the helm. God be with him. The enemy and his army are determined to make God's man fail. With God's help and the prayers of the faithful surrounding his office and the future of our nation and people, I don't believe the enemy and his army has a chance. God will it so. Amen. Regards, PlanetChee

There are many thou shalt not's in the scriptures. When there is not one that says thou shalt not deliver a child to the Lord through Baptism, it isn't for anyone to say it is not to be done. Because as should be obvious, it is not a bad thing that a child is washed clean as one born into a fallen world, and raised up as one dedicated to the path of Christ in the beginning of their journey in this life. Train up a child in the way they should go. And when they are old they will not depart from it. Mark 10:13-16 And they were bringing children to him that he might touch them, and the disciples rebuked them. But when Jesus saw it, he was indignant and said to them, “Let the children come to me; do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God. Truly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it.” And he took them in his arms and blessed them, laying his hands on them.

It's well written. It gives insight into understanding the pursuit of the left wing media and the worst offenders there. Trump is an intelligent man and he has a vision for America like unto working toward a successful business venture. You have to cut what is dragging the bottom line down, and install what sustains growth. Trump is approaching his management from the oval office like he would if he were heading any other corporation. Which America essentially is. And being he's a record of success the left that thrives on parasitism and enslavement of the masses feel the threat of his success ending their machining of the country and the middle to poorer classes. Remember American history. Democrats instituted slavery. Republicans abolished it. Democrats instituted a neo-slavery in the segregation laws after the emancipation proclamation. And they installed welfare also. Now the Democrats are turning to the worst possible ideology in strong socialism by steps. Beginning with an ideal that never got off the ground even to the chagrin of Kennedy. Who championed socialized medicine to no avail even unto his death. Along comes an educated socialist with communist allegiance and whalah! "Obamacare" becomes the law of the land. And it's destroying the country and families. High premiums, enormous deductibles. Lies that got it off the ground and into national law. Trump knows all this and is looking to reverse the destruction the Democrats intend for this nation. And that's why they hate him on the Hill. Because he's cracking the shell of their facade that the career politicians have crafted to their benefit for decades. And that's why they'll lie, spread rumors, spread gossip, just to undermine his credibility as president with the base that elected him. While they commit to obstructionist agenda's in the legislature to forestall everything he hopes to get passed through the legislative process. That's why he resorts to EO's. Because he is aware of the adversarial framework and hostile takeover tactics in big business. Only American politics is the biggest. He doesn't have to be a politician to get the lay of the land. He has that. The career politicians want him to fail because they want America to become what they've worked generations to create. And Trump thinks more of this country than to let that happen without a fight now that he's in a position to put a stop to it. It's a great book. I highly recommend it. It puts a new light on Donald Trump that isn't corrupted by the left wing bully tactics that intend to slander, and demean his competency. He's highly competent! That's why the left is so determined to stop him. Because they know that. He use to be a Democrat. And they know that too.

Likely they think if they're concessionary they'll be OK. It reminds me of that old show the X Files. Ever see it? Ultimately, Mulder was right. Aliens were here and they had influenced certain of the top 1% in power and in government. And that human group were working to allow the aliens access to the planets resources so as to install their way of life, whatever that was because the show ,even the movies, never culminated into that ultimate end, though it was assimilation of the planet and its resources and ultimately elimination of the human race. But meanwhile, the 1% were helping to that end because they believed the aliens when they told them that in return they'd keep their way of life once the aliens plans had been fulfilled. I don't think that series was just a work of fiction. I think it was meant as an allegory even metaphor for what's happening now with Islam. And being X Files premiered something like 20 years or more ago on TV, then moved to the theater in I think it was three installments, if I'm right that says a lot about what was foreseen about Islam even then. Of course Islam has always been about world domination. The foolish part is those who parrot it is a religion of peace. They don't realize that Islam will never be at peace. While that slogan, religion of peace, if false in that Islam is a political ideology, the only way peace arrives is when Islam rules the entire world under the tenets of Sharia. And even then, were that to occur, there would still be no peace. As any woman in a Sharia ruled country will attest. Terrorism yes. Peace, impossible.

Could you elaborate a little more on, many who are not lost but don't know it? Thank you.

Acts 2:11 "Both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians—we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” Isaiah 28:11-13 For by people of strange lips and with a foreign tongue the Lord will speak to this people, to whom he has said, “This is rest; give rest to the weary; and this is repose”; yet they would not hear. And the word of the Lord will be to them precept upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little, that they may go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. I think tongues are controversial today because as an example of what I've heard from certain TV ministries, people don't believe it is real. Because it sounds like gibberish. And likely it is being there are false teachers on the air that exploit any means available to take money from people of faith. The tongues that the apostles were told they were to speak in delivering the good news of our Lord as I understand it was the tongues of known languages at the time. If they were to deliver the gospel to the world they'd have to be equipped to speak to the peoples of the world. And I think that was why God bestowed upon them at Pentecost the gift of tongues. Known languages that they could then utilize to deliver his ministry to all people. I can't say today no one can speak in tongues. However, I do know when I watch those certain pastors on TV who break into what they hope is believed to be tongues, that it does sound false. And having an ear for sound and music, theirs is repetitive when they do resort to that during their sermons. Always before they pass the offering plate. It's the same gibberish, not actual tongues, known languages, peculiar to each TV pastor that resorts to that avenue of persuasion over their flock.

I agree. There's no holding place, as you called it. No purgatory. Christ paid it all. Praise the Lord.

Get 'em lost? Aren't all people lost in their sins until or unless they come to Christ?

May 17,2017 Christian Post A former Pentecostal Church in rural North Carolina was turned into an Islamic center on Saturday where an Episcopal priest and pastors from other denominations took part in a joint service to dedicate the facility. The Raleigh News & Observer reported Friday that while the Islamic Center of Smithfield is not the first to exist in Johnston County, it's currently the only one in the area after another mosque was closed. The new Islamic Center is now housed is what once was the Pentecostals of Smithfield church building. More reading @ CP link It's disheartening to see Christian church leaders so ignorant of Islam that they'd assist in an endeavor that would never be reciprocated by the Islamic tenets. Islamic Community Center=Mosque. Always. "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." Quran 48:29,

May 11-Widow of Late Detroit World Outreach Pastor Presents Proof She Is Rightful Leader of Megachurch

Makes me quite glad that the burning times of those deemed heretics by leaders of certain Church orders are no longer legal anywhere in the civilized world.

I wonder how the dark left will react if Trump is successful in helping to negotiate peace in the Middle East. Yes, I agree. Time to move the embassy.

I agree with cuts to programs that are routes people who can work take advantage of in order to live for free on working class peoples labors. Welfare should be a hand up, not a career.

The importance of context is a thread here that someone started. And this particular passage is evidence of why I think context is always key in reading the Bible. Jesus wasn't speaking of all people there so again that passage does not pertain to the OP . John 8 8 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. 2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. 12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. 13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true. 14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. 15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. 16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. 19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. 20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come. 21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come. 22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come. 23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. 28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. 30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. 48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? 49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. 50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. 51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. 52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain

I did not say that which is attributed to my account as a quote.

Is the Book of Enoch part of the Apocrypha?

That passage isn't saying people aren't God's children. All souls come from God.

There is not one word that forbids baptism of infants. And a parents teaching of their children begins the day they are born. They teach them how to love by showing them love. They teach them patience by the example of patience. They teach them all manner of things by example. A child being baptized as an infant is not contrary to God's word. And a child that was baptized as an infant can always choose to receive baptism again when they're older . Meanwhile, they've been raised in the faith of Christ and by example of righteous parents they are carried on their way to that stage where they can make their own choices.