The_Truth_Seeker

Concerning Rev 6.2, this may be a problem with the English translation. I had to do some research on the word that was used for "bow" which in Greek is G5115 toxon. This is one of those word translations which is difficult to verify what the actual meaning is supposed to represent, so I had to do some further checking. I was comparing Job 41.28 to different translations and this is where things get interesting. Many translations have the word "arrow" but the Greek Septuagint has the word "bow". So the question then is, at time when the Septuagint was being translated, could the Greek word "toxon" be understood as a reference to bow and arrow? Maybe the the reference in the greek was understood to include a arrow, (or some other object that resembles a arrow in shape, like a dart of some kind). So if looking from a medical and pharmaceuticals point of view, and arrow or dart shaped object could resemble something like a syringe or these Blow-Fill-Seal prefilled syringe. If one was to look at Rev 6.2 from a medical and pharmaceutical point of view, remember that "corona" is latin for crown, taking into account the word meanings for "toxon", the descripion could very well relate to the medical and pharmaceuticals industry.

Yes, it is interesting when comparing the Covid 19 situation to that of Leprosy. The isolation practices. Not long ago I read up a bit on the Leprosy history that happened in the US. And in reference to Ben-Hur, yes the leper colony scene I know of. Good movie that.

Curious, but how many here is from Australia? The state of Victoria is very bad, and from what I myself have read, depending how the situation goes, that state could be isolated from the rest of Australia. This Covid 19 makes me think of the Leper isolation practices that has been done in the past. And now I hear in Victoria it is now compulsory for one to wear a mask when in public. This is just getting way too scary. Just how close are we to the mark of the beast becoming a requirement? Are we that close that it could be just around the corner?

Why is there the reference to only three horsemen in the above post, when there are four horsemen.

What you say is along the lines I have thought. I too have read about hydrogel and nanoparticles. The nanoparticles could be gold nanoparticles, read up on it. We could be looking at some kind of nanobiosensors inside of us. A good read is the ID2020. Look at the alliances, there are 3 that stick out, Microsoft, Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance and the Rockerfeller Foundation. These three are what sticks out to me. ID2020, Digital Identity, Certification Mark. I have been thinking on the most logical conclusion based on all the evidence, reading the prophecies concerned, and there is only one conclusion that makes the most sense, and that the mark of the beast has to be in relation to people being injected with something that has them connected to some kind of mega powerful computer network system. Look at it from a technologically point of view, if every person was connected to some kind of sophisticated and highly advanced computer network, what if with our technologies we have today, what if a persons own thoughts, what they see, what they say can be monitored by a highly advanced AI Quantum Computer of some type. So if everyone is connect to such a network, than on a technological scale, such a computer system could be considered All-knowing All seeing and All hearing, but there is a Achilles' Heel, such a computer system would require people to be connected to it. With what is happening now around the world, I myself am leaning towards the direction that the mark of the beast may already be here.

The thing is, the reference to the "beasts of the earth", this could have a connection to vaccines (have a read what goes into vaccines), or perhaps related to flu like diseases from animals that get passed onto humans. Maybe it a combination of both. If a human eats an animal, but the animal was ill (for example has swine flu) then it stands to reason the person will get sick. Throughout history, these are you three ways in which people have died on a large scale - wars, famine and diseases. Anything to do with medical sector is beyond me, but one thing I do know is that there is more profit to be made from people that are unhealthy and ill.

Actually, it is very much different. The difference between back in the days of the Spanish flu, and compared to the age we live in today, is the level of technology. The technology in ways is so frightening, that there is tracking and surveillance capabilities that is just insane. You go somewhere with your smartphone, your location is very much accurate. Just imagine similar type of technology implanted into people, where they are tracked and traced.

This whole Covid 19 situation to me just does not seem to add up. But is the methods that are being used to deal with it that has me concerned, and it is the psychological conditioning of accepting "contactless payments" that seems to be the focus (social distancing can accomplish this). More than once I have thought on the idea that people will accept the mark of the beast as a result of some kind of disease outbreak. With what we are seeing around the world, concerning Covid 19, lockdowns, self-isolation, it does make you wonder if the description given in Rev 13.16-17 could be describing people in some sort of isolation because they have not taken the mark? There is just too much going on with the Covid 19. Too much conditioning. Social Distancing, Contactless Payments. Now with alot of these credit/debit cards, as far as I know, there is a limit on the contactless option, but for fear of losing the card or risk being stolen, a electronic implant with no limit can easily allow a person to maintain social distancing at the same time. In my opinion, there is just too much parallels with what we seeing now and the descriptions given concerning the mark of the beast prophecy.

Some time ago I came across a website discussing about the 616. The "Chi Iota Sigma" may actually of been a reference to Hebrew (Tav Vav Lamed). I checked it out myself and look at the many various Hebrew styles throughout history, and check what the symbols mean.

This concept of the trinity, I would like someone to explain to me, because I just don't understand it. If someone was to challenge you in a debate, and you asked to explain verses like John 17.1-3 and in verse John 20.17 this reference here "......I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God." How would you answer?

It is interesting this reference, the description given, because I myself have thought that this was to do with hyperinfation of currency, problems with supply and demand. Another factor to consider, something has happened and that the very basics needed maybe subject to some kind of food rationing. The word "penny" should be a denarius, which as far as I know, was a days wage at the time and it may of been applicable to a certain class of people. I have to admit the oil and wine reference I not exactly sure the intended meaning, but perhaps maybe a reference to luxury items the common people couldn't afford? Another interesting thought is people using crisis such as this Covid 19 using the opportunity to stack up on certain products, and then resell them for insanely high profits, profit from the situation.

This concept of wearing mandatory masks could also be along the lines of psychological conditioning, but in saying that there are also proper reasons why one needs to wear a mask (exposed to environments with lots of dust, mixing cement, and so on) Have people heard of a concept called "Predictive Programming"? To me, the main ingredient in this whole situation is "social distancing". Social distancing when we look at it from a logical point of view has another part to it and that is "contactless payments". You see how the two concepts actually work side by side. Contactless Payments and Social Distancing are actually two sides of the same coin. This concept of "social distancing" is in my opinion what will psychologically condition a large percentage of the population to readily accept the mark of the beast.

I think people here should do a search on google for "under-the-skin biosensor" and see what comes up. Look where we are headed, and what worries me, is that so many people (in my opinion) will most likely want to have this inside them.

With respect, I disagree with the above comment. It actually is a issue, because the research I have done 616 (chi iota sigma) is the older reading. The 616 reading is based on is the oldest manuscript as far as I am aware. The question is why the difference? There must be a reason for this.

How many people How many people are actually aware that there is a very old manuscript called the Papyrus 115 but actually has the number of the beast as Chi Iota Sigma (616)?

Something I think most people are not seeing, but why is "the mark" needed? Why a person cannot buy or sell without it? (Buying and selling today is what this world is really about, we buy stuff on a daily basis). There must be some reason? With the world we live in today, if you have a situation where people cannot do any kind of trade or business, the economy itself will be devastated, no one working no one buying, no cash flow, this would be devastating. So why do people require the mark of the beast? The lockdowns as a result of covid 19, have done alot of damage (financially speaking). So we have a public health situation that has resulted in alot of people in very bad financial situations. If this Covid 19 is going to be permanently present, then we cannot have a permanent lockdown as that will destroy the economy. This leaves only one possible option left, some sort of compromise. If cannot defeat the virus, then keep it from getting out of control and at same time enable people to continue with their lives as normal as possible. Now to me, based on all the research, all the current evidence, I just don't see how people can even begin to think Sunday worship is the mark of the beast. How some people came to this conclusion is beyond me. In my opinion, I feel the mark of the beast is connected with nanoparticles (or other foreign bodies injected into us that will be permanent). I have also come across something else, foreign body granuloma (do a image search on google to see what this is). If nanoparticles are injected into us, I cannot see how such particles could ever be removed from the person. What if something else is inside of us? Some type of biosensor or nanobiosensor? With all the technology we have today, what if the mark of the beast is something that will require people to be connected to some kind of extremely powerful computer (quantum computer for example), where each person is monitored. If they are ill or sick, they cannot go out, if they register as being not ill, they can go out.

I was checking this verse an comparing it to the greek and I found something interesting, that requires questions to be asked. In 2 Thess 2:3, where it starts of "Let no man..............." The word "man" used here is based on the greek word G5100 tis can relate to any person or object. Now further on in 2 Thess 2:3 where you see the words "......and that man of sin ......." the word "man" used this time is G444 anthropos. Why the different greek words used? What is interesting is that going by strongs, anthropos can refer to a human being or man-faced. Curious but what does man-faced mean? Look into the advances of robotics, you see some robots look so much like their creators, it quite amazing. The robots may have the face of a man, doesn't mean they are a man by definition. So the question is, is the man of sin a man in the traditional sense, or something else? We live in a time period that because of the technologies, something may look like a duck, swim like a duck and quack like a duck, but in reality it may not be a duck, in which case requires further analysis and examination.

See this alone tells me there has to be some kind of manufactured event that people will end up accepting the mark. The question is what is the method or means of which people will readily accept? In my opinion a disease pandemic is the perfect way in which people can be set up to accept the mark of the beast. Regardless how rich a person is, what position a person has in society, a disease can affect everybody. How it affects individuals can be different. Like when some people get the flu, some people get it worse than others.

Thing is when one looks at the medical and pharmaceuticals sector, to break it down, the only way these businesses can survive is from people who are ill or sick. From a business point of view, there is more money to be made from sick people compared to healthy people. Reality is, there is too much deception when you look at the whole medical sector. But in the days we are in today, it is possible that sorceries could be associated with vaccines. I don't know if people recall an incident that happen in the UK, where a UK doctor was sacked, because he refused to go along with this gender identity (the gender you identify yourself as) garbage. Seriously, one has to really question the medical industry if a doctor is sacked for identifying a male patient as a man.

This does make alot of sense the reference to tanks here.

I was thinking Covid 19 maybe a reference to Rev 6.2 Corona is Latin for crown. What is interesting is the word "bow" that is used in the translation. This comes from the greek word "toxon" (G5115) . I had to do some research on this, but from what I have researched, the word "toxon" looks like can be used to refer to a bow and arrow. Now I had to do some checking, but I looked at Job 41.28 and compare the KJV to the Greek Septuagint, and where in the KJV as the word "arrow", the Greek Septuagint has the word "bow". Worth checking out the meaning of "toxophilite" in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, that good explanation on some of the word origins concerned. That reference to the "white horse" in rev 6.2 could be a reference to those white colored emergency vehicles, like ambulances, and it is common that white is associated in the medical profession.

Now concerning the Mark of the Beast, there is a important question that needs to be asked. What is the peoples mindset concerning this? Are you actually prepared to refuse to accept the mark of the beast? I ask this because the impression I get is that when the times comes so many people who say they won't get it, they actually will. I use this as a example, say those parents who have children, are they going to cave in and accept so they can feed their children? Now there is another area of concern, and that is the people who have this mentality "God understands, I had to feed my family" or some other excuse to justify accepting the mark of the beast. But the warnings given in Rev 14.9-11 are quite clear. The question we really we need to ask ourselves, are we witnessing events leading up to the mark of the beast, and are we prepared to refuse.

In relation to the mark of the beast, but concerning the image of the beast, has anyone thought of the possibility that the image of the beast may be connected with quantum computers? Maybe with all that is happening around the world, with the advancements of AI and machine learning algorithms. Is it possible that with what we are seeing today, pandemics affecting the whole world, that the solution comes from a quantum computer of some kind? Feed the necessary data then comes up with solution based on the data fed? Actually what is curious is that in some translations in Rev 13.14 we see "image to the beast", but in some other translations we see "image of the beast". So why the difference in wording? Just the words "to" and "of" alone changes the meaning. Quite strange considering in Rev 13.15 we clearly see "image of the beast" more than once.

For arguments sake, if we take this statement as is (and I myself have read up on digital certificates), think for a moment of where we are headed. Digital certificates, quantum dots and vaccines. Verification and confirmation of people who have been vaccinated or "marked".

Reality is all the evidence points towards something that is physical. The question is what manner of deception will be used against the people in order for them to accept the mark of the beast? Here are questions I find myself asking now, is the first beast, and when I think of the seven heads and ten horns, could this be a relation to the G7 (Group of Seven) and G10 (Group of Ten). Now could the second beast be in relation to the Health Care and Pharmaceuticals sector? We see today so much that is going on, that there is one common element we see, "Social Distancing" If the economies are collapsing because of this Covid 19 pandemic, and we are seeing places today that are afraid to touch physical money, and if this disease gets more out of control, and to avoid major lockdowns, how then will one be able to continue buy what they need but at the same time maintain social distancing? There is only one way, a electronic implant using contactless technology. Contactless payments is the only method that can maintain social distancing but at same time allow a person to pay for goods and services.