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  1. The real question is; what is the actual cause of climate change? I doubt science will ever consider that the earth may be heading back to what it once was before the Biblical global flood; that greenhouse environment, but with the mist gone that covered the whole earth, .......which means our efforts to prevent it is a joke. Indeed, when God is coming to judge the earth with a fiery calamity, that "heat" will be around for the rest of the world for the duration of the great tribulation. Look at this promise for those coming out of the great tribulation. Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. Was that a subtle hint for what is coming on the earth? This is certainly a hint. Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. 29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. So all this "climate change" is God warning us that He is coming soon.
  2. Until you reprove it by scripture, or if you have a thread on it to post a link to it, what kind of edification is this? If you wish to start on the topic, then address the scriptures in the OP for rightly dividing the word of truth. How are the comments on applying those scriptural references are wrong?
  3. @R. Hartono Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. 29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Are not the rings of Saturn breaking loose? Are there not Earth sized sun spots erupting from our sun? Are there not more volcanos erupting and more earthquakes than ever before? Are there not more wars and rumors of wars abounding? Like a woman travailing in birth pangs. Earth knows when the Lord is coming soon. We can know when it is near but not the day nor the hour for which I agree for why we should trust in Jesus Christ for help to always be ready. Psalm 96:11 Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof. 12 Let the field be joyful, and all that is therein: then shall all the trees of the wood rejoice 13 Before the Lord: for he cometh, for he cometh to judge the earth: he shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with his truth. Psalm 114:4 The mountains skipped like rams, and the little hills like lambs. 5 What ailed thee, O thou sea, that thou fleddest? thou Jordan, that thou wast driven back? 6 Ye mountains, that ye skipped like rams; and ye little hills, like lambs? 7 Tremble, thou earth, at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the God of Jacob;
  4. We are to love our neighbors as ourselves but there can be no fellowship nor agreement with them. 2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. The way churches are being compromised today with the LGBTQ+ & woke media imposition of their theology or else we are haters & bigots and free targets for violence, AND supernatural apostasy creeping into all the denominational churches, AND Christian Forums' "Statement of Faith" that are not entirely Biblical and a slippery slope to compromises with the world... you may find yourself in the world after all. Scripture is what you are going to need from your personal Good Shepherd, the Lord Jesus Christ, to guide you in the way you are to go.
  5. Okay. You should ask Administration to closed the blog like they do threads. I wish I can blog, but I do not see how I can. Is it one of the staff's privileges?
  6. @Marilyn C I believe that "fallen Babylon" is USA and the event in Revelation 18:1-24 happens after the rapture event in verses 1-5 of Revelation 14:1-20 for when the first angel spreads the everlasting gospel to all the world in verses 6-7 so that everyone will know the gospel and cannot have an excuse for not knowing it. Note verse 8 by how the second angel heralds the fall of that Babylon. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. Then the third angel announces to the world that if anyone takes the mark of the beast, they will burn in the lake of fire in verses 9-11. These are the 3 angels that sets up the hour of temptation that shall try all remaining upon the earth as fallen Babylon USA is part of that third of the earth that gets burned up per Revelation 8:7 . This fiery calamity on the third of the earth is what causes the New World Order to come about by implementing the mark of the beast system to survive for the rest of the world. That is why at the end of Revelation 18th Chapter we see that the voice of the bride and the bridegroom is not heard in her any more because the rapture has come and gone and that door is shut to the Marriage Supper now, and the left behind saints are dead as found in fallen Babylon. This is why the church at Thyatira was warned to repent of her spiritual fornication or be left behind to be judged with death in Revelation 2:18-25 and why the church at Philadelphia was exhorted to hold fast to escape that hour of temptation that shall try all remaining on the earth in Revelation 3:7-11 When you consider the merchants of the sea as standing afar off because of the plagues within her, and yet a third of the earth has been burned up, I can see why God separated the one large land mass for how the western hemisphere is 1/3rd of the earth.
  7. After death, we are spirits until the resurrection as the firstfruits for abiding in Him as His disciples, or if not abiding in Him when we had died, then we would have to wait for the resurrection after the great tribulation as they that be Christ's at His coming. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work. That is what makes a vessels unto dishonor is when a saved believer did not look to Him for help to discern and depart from iniquity but just followed the crowd or an errant church rather than trusting Jesus Christ as their personal Good Shepherd in following Him. Look at the warning given to the church at Thyatira to repent or else be cast into the bed of the great tribulation. Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. It is not a works salvation when those left behind are still saved, but missed out on the firstfruits of the resurrection. Like Esau for something temporary ( a meal ), the prodigal son gave up his first inheritance for wild living and although he can never get it back, he will find that he is still son albeit as a vessel unto dishonor in Hsi House, a vessel of wood & earth, but still In His House..
  8. I believe that "fallen Babylon" is USA and the event in Revelation 18:1-24 happens after the rapture event in verses 1-5 of Revelation 14:1-20 for when the first angel spreads the everlasting gospel to all the world in verses 6-7 so that everyone will know the gospel and cannot have an excuse for not knowing it. Note verse 8 by how the second angel heralds the fall of that Babylon. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. Then the third angel announces to the world that if anyone takes the mark of the beast, they will burn in the lake of fire in verses 9-11. These are the 3 angels that sets up the hour of temptation that shall try all remaining upon the earth as fallen Babylon USA is part of that third of the earth that gets burned up per Revelation 8:7 . This fiery calamity on the third of the earth is what causes the New World Order to come about by implementing the mark of the beast system to survive for the rest of the world. That is why at the end of Revelation 18th Chapter we see that the voice of the bride and the bridegroom is not heard in her any more because the rapture has come and gone and that door is shut to the Marriage Supper now, and the left behind saints are dead as found in fallen Babylon. This is why the church at Thyatira was warned to repent of her spiritual fornication or be left behind to be judged with death in Revelation 2:18-25 and why the church at Philadelphia was exhorted to hold fast to escape that hour of temptation that shall try all remaining on the earth in Revelation 3:7-11 When you consider the merchants of the sea as standing afar off because of the plagues within her, and yet a third of the earth has been burned up, I can see why God separated the one large land mass for how the western hemisphere is 1/3rd of the earth.
  9. The scriptures below says to let you believe what you will per your faith. Romans 14:1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. 14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died. 16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of: 17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. 18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men. 19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. 20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. 21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. 22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. 23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Clarity is needed here. Are you referring to the different Christian denominations as that "all faiths" or are you referring to all the religions in the world with Christianity as "all faiths"? If the latter, then I disagree. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. The way was broadened in the worship place by the modified Nicene creed of 381 A,D, which included the worship of the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, but scripture does not teach that practice of worship at all. What scripture does teach is the only way to come to God the Father by per John 14:6 and the only way to honor the Father by; John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. This is why there are no scripture about coming to the Holy Spirit as if He is Another way to come to God the Father by nor are there any scripture teaching about honoring the Holy Spirit in worship as Another way to honor the Father by. Jesus meant what He had said but because of unbiblical church practices and applying the Trinity doctrine as if Jesus did not really meant that, is why many are not heeding His warnings to strive ye to enter through that straight gate at the risk of being left behind because they did not heed His words about the only way to come to God the father by for why He says "I knew ye not whence ye are." in Luke 13:24-30 because they did not narrow the way back to the Son in worship, prayer, & fellowship. And this was Jesus warning the saved believers in the latter days of what is going on in the churches, and so you can fathom this warning applies to you if you were including faiths in all religions of the world as if they can come to that Paradise by any other way than the Son.
  10. When you read the two different stories of the Creation account, it is a known fact that the original scriptures were not divided into numbered chapters and numbered verses. So when you read the first creation account, you should read it from Genesis 1:1 to Genesis 2:3 for the complete account. Here is why. Genesis 1:In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. The first verse is the topic and the following verses to the end of Genesis 2:3 is how God did that in verse 1. Notice how Genesis 2:1 ends it by the word "Thus" for the conclusion of that topic in Genesis 1:1. Genesis 2:1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. So fathom that for a moment, hoping in the Lord for wisdom to see the truth in His words. The very first day of creation was the establishment of time by that creation of light for that first day as there was evening and morning that first day. So what was created that first day was that first day by that light; hence time was created. The second day of creation was the establishment of gravity and the beginning of the creation of the earth because all that was there that first day was water. On that second day, earth was starting to be formed by creating a water planet with the upper atmosphere. The third day was the completion of creating earth by having that one large land mass with all the sea in one place. On that one large land mass was the creation of mature plant life and mature trees bearing seeds and fruits. Then the universe was created that fourth day for the purpose of shining her lights on the earth for the governing for signs, for seasons, for days, and for years. That means not only the heavenly sources were created, but her lights were to be shining on that earth that fourth day. So can one discern the age of the universe and thus earth by that speed of light? No. Because the inverse did not existed until that fourth day for when God commanded her lights to shine on that earth that fourth day for signs, seasons, days and years. The fifth day marine life and birds were created. The sixth day, animals were created and then man was created to have dominion over all living things. Then the first creation account ends at Genesis 2:3 when God rested the seventh day from those six days of creating the heavens and the earth. The second creation account is a rehashing of the event on the sixth day for when man was created which begins the topic of the generations of man in Genesis 2:4. We can know that by how verse 5 testifies that there was no man yet to till the ground for why God ordered a mist to water the earth. Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. Rain did not happen until the global flood. FYI This is how we should read the two creation accounts so that in light of science, they do not take this into consideration when determining the age of the universe by that speed of light & thereby insinuating the age of the earth which is a faulty assumption for why the big bang theory and the evolution theory are a false science. What do you get from building on a faulty assumption? False knowledge & thus false science. 1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
  11. 2 Thessalonians 3:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
  12. How do you apply this scripture to your point of view? Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. 41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. 49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? Jesus is warning saved believers to be ready or else they get cut off, left behind with unbelievers for when that fire comes on the earth. When does that happen?
  13. Until they cheat Christians of their faith in Jesus Christ by getting the Christian poor involved in yoga and meditation that would invoke spirits of the antichrist to come in by you emptying yourself and being in that blank mental state. You can investigate Kundalini on Youtube since it has its roots from Buddhism and how it is infiltrating churches today in misleading saved believers into thinking that was the holy Spirit visiting them with signs and wonders BUT He has been in them since salvation and so they are led away by seducing spirits and doctrines of devils in chasing after the spirits of the antichrist for receiving a sign.
  14. Anybody wants to post a Bible verse Shared from that link as given by @Worship Warriors James 1: 3Knowing this ,that the trying of your faith produces patience 4 But let patience have her prefect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing James 1:12Blessed is the man that endures testing: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life , which the Lord has promised to them that love Him. James 5: 11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. You have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end result of the Lord, that the Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy.
  15. I am not familiar with that book, but thanks for mentioning it.
  16. I understand your point of view but it is not being aligned with scripture. Can you explain how Revelation 19:1-10 has the Lord in Heaven with the raptured saints at the Marriage Supper and then after that the heavens are open for when He comes back with the saints clothed in fine linen, white & clean, to do battle with the world's armies marching against Jerusalem, and defeating them Revelation 19:11-21 and then Satan is in the pit for a thousand years BEFORE He resurrects the saints that went through the great tribulation per Revelation 20:1-6 ? That means Jesus is not meeting those saints being resurrected that went through the great tribulation in meeting them in the air when He has already touched down on earth thus on earth after defeating the world's armies.
  17. 1 Peter 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
  18. 1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: 13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. 14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
  19. 1 Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. 8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. 9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging. 10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. 11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
  20. 1 Peter 4:1Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; 2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
  21. 1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; 2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. 3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: 4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: 5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead. 6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. 7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. 12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: 13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. 14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. 15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. 16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
  22. 1 Thessalonians 5:17 Pray without ceasing. 18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
  23. If poor people are a regular at the church, pray that God will raise up cheerful givers to give them some bread/food to take home. 1 Corinthians 12:25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. Course, in these days, how can anyone tell who is in need unless they say they are starving or obviously in poor apparel that they may perish depending on the weather outside for why some clothes should be donated too... by cheerful givers.
  24. @JoeCanada You should consider that the elect are those chosen out of the called as the firstfruits of the resurrection to be taken at the pre great tribulation rapture event when Christ comes as the Bridegroom to judge His House first. That would include both O.T. saints and those abiding in Him as His disciples along with those living that are abiding in Him & are willing to go by His grace & by His help. Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. 30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.
  25. From the link: 1 John 1:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. I am not seeing it as dispelling that truth that the antichrist shall come. John is adding an awareness that even now, there are many antichrists for why we know it is the last time. 1 John 2:22-23 can be applied as towards a false prophet's words but 1 John 4:3 is about testing the spirits in the context of 1 John 4:1-4 1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: John is not talking about anyone confessing that Jesus Christ had actually come in the flesh but where Jesus Christ is presently in verse 2 which is the same as what Paul is saying in the examination of our faith of Jesus Christ is in us per 2 Corinthians 13:5 . We can know this to be true by the following two verses. 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. To be clearer still; Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Apply that to Azusa Street Revival, holy laughter movement, slain in the spirit, being drunk in the spirit, Pensacola Outpouring, Toronto's Blessings, and even Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade where he announces the coming of the Holy Spirit in falling on already saved believer to make them lose self control & fall backwards to get a miracle. That is the spirit of the antichrist which is in the world. So tying in John's warning about those who teach otherwise in denying Jesus is the Christ; this is how they say that is the Spirit of Christ moving here of there. Antichrist means "instead of Christ" or to be more precise "instead of the Son". The real indwelling Holy Spirit will always keep your eyes on the Son in worship whereas the spirits of the antichrist do not, by using their visitations of signs & lying wonders to take the believers eyes off of the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, in chasing after them to receive by a sign or miracle. Keep your eyes on the Bridegroom for He will be coming soon & chase no more after those spirits for any filling or receiving whatsoever or risk being left behind for being out to the market. Matthew 25:1-13 As it is, there is an antichrist coming, that son of perdition, but there are many antichrists and spirits of the antichrist in the world.
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