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  1. The bible says that Jesus bore our sin on the Cross, so then, who are we to not believe it. ? After all, if we are born again, then we have now become "the righteousness of Christ", and Jesus "became (our) sin". 2nd Corinthians 5:21, and what is also amazing, is that its God His Father that "made" this all happen. Here is a pretzel.....God is Jesus on the Cross, sending Himself down from Heaven, to Die as a Man. In John 1:10, Jesus was "standing on the earth HE CREATED", = "God said, LET THERE BE", in Genesis....... and this is JESUS now standing on it, and soon He was going to be hanging between the earth and sky that HE Created with.... words....and Jesus is the WORD ..... made flesh. On the Cross, Jesus is not just dying for sin, He literally became sin. I'll show you somehting else that is pretty interesting, as maybe you've not thought this or been shown it before... You all know this verse...... "we are not UNDER the Law but we are UNDER Grace". In other words, the reason for the Law....is that the law shows us our sinfulness, as this is the purpose of it, which then leads us to the One who dies for them on the Cross, gives us His Righteousness......you know, (Salvation). But notice this.... our NT says that the LAW was abolished, being NAILED to the Cross. Colossians 2:14 Now this does not mean the law and the 10 C's are no longer behavioral lifestyle guides regarding our Christian Discipleship, sure...but what it means is that because Jesus fulfilled the law in our place, the law now has no authority to judge us as sinners. Remember, God's law does this, not Jesus, not God. This is why Jesus never JUDGED any one, He always said. "sins are forgiven", "go thy way"...etc..... as that is why HE CAME, whereas the Law can not do this, it can only judge you to be a sinner, based on ITSELF as it reveals God's morally righteous moral code. So, Jesus abolished the law (took away its power to judge us as sinners), which is why Romans 4:8 has to be understood fully or Salvation can't be completely accepted or understood as it is meant to be, in both cases. So, there is Jesus, dying on the cross, and where is the Law that is abolished and NAILED to the Cross with him?? Its nailed. Where? Its above his HEAD. He is UNDER THE LAW, on the Cross, DYING. And we are NOT UNDER IT< because He died under it for us. "You are not UNDER the Law but under GRACE , <. see that? = Because Jesus is UNDER IT, on the Cross. He took away its power to JUDGE a born again believer. His death FINISHED not only our Eternal Redemption, but it also forever eliminated the Law's Legal right to judge us as SINNERS. <B><
  2. Gospel : Paul teaching = "preaching of the Cross". "we preach Christ Crucified"..."Jesus sent me not to baptize but to preach the Gospel".."faith comes by hearing this"..... So, all that, if believed by an unbeliever resolves an eternal issue...... What is the issue? What is God's purpose for coming to earth to die as Jesus The Christ on a Cross? What is He doing?...What is He alone solving, that all our 10 commandment keeping and holy lifestyle can never solve, which is WHY HE had to solve it? ? And right here is what is so often misunderstood, or not taught correctly, and this is why so many people who mean well, and love Jesus, or would like to love him, do not understand <>WHAT IS<> the actual reason that God came here to die. So what is that reason? The reason, is that keeping the law, the 10 commandments, and doing good works, confessing sin, and living as holy as we can, could not make us acceptable to God.. And here is the "catch 22".... It also can't AFTER you are saved. And right here is where "Legalism vs Grace" becomes the touchstone of constant fighting on forums, and everywhere else that it can show up where believers WILL clash. (Apparently this clash became such a long standing fight and fury on this forum that members here are barred from posting- fighting about it.) It is a fact and statement of the CROSS that the law and the 10 Commandments can't make you righteous, they can only show you that you are unrighteous., as that is the actual purpose of the Law, as well as outlining what God expects regarding our basic moral conduct & behavior, once we are born again. So, how can it be that half the body of Christ is trying to keep all this, all these works, and they believe that this is "keeping them saved". Whereas the other half of the body of Christ is trusting in Jesus to keep them saved. So, do you see the line in the sand? Its this " What is keeping you SAVED"....that is the minefield of theological confusion. THATS the fight. Legalism vs Grace. Its happening on every forum like this one, and its the reason for 5000 denominations that don't agree, and 300 bibles that don't agree. This issue started with Paul and his preaching of "justification by Faith" >alone, and he wrote the letter to the Galatians that talks about it, and explains it. 2000 yrs later, this issue of Legalism vs Grace is still a fist fight between "Christians". Here on this forum, apparently they outlawed the battle. Isn't it interesting to realize that if the 10 commandments, or lawkeeping, or living holy, could save you or keep you saved, if that were the truth, then Jesus could have stayed in Heaven and saved Himself some PAIN..... But ita not the case. Now im not certain what you have been taught, but i teach that you "present your body a living sacrifice" and you to "live holy as God is holy", not to save yourself or keep yourself saved, but because this is what you should do, and what God expects, .. because you ARE saved. The Legalist would argue that .."no, you do it to stay saved", and if you don't then you're not. I wonder, reader, what you believe. However, keep it to yourself, as this is between you and God, tho make sure you get it right, as if you get it wrong and you are teaching it, then Galatians 1:8 has become quite a literal issue for you. So, leaving all that now, lets just look at the problem that God had to come here and solve for us, as to look at this, is to understand the reason for Salvation which is to understand Salvation. Our problem we had, before we were saved, is only one thing, one issue only. And God Himself had to solve it, because we can't. We are born, and we get older, and we don't have any righteousness. None. And so, God can't accept us, because we are UNRIGHTEOUS. This is "lost", "unsaved"....hellbound = we don't have any RIGHTEOUSNESS< as all of ours, are "filthy rags". So, in steps SALVATION... Down from Heaven God as The Christ arrives... The Cross has been raised.... As God bleeding out on the "tree" has come down from Heaven to give us HIS righteousness so that He can accept us, based on THAT.......and for no other reason will He accept you, or me. God, literally became a man, and died on a Cross, to GIVE US "the righteousness of Christ". (God's very own righteousness). And that is what salvation actually is....Its God coming to earth to give us His righteousness so that HE can accept us, as by giving us His very righteousness, this makes us acceptable to God. Welcome to Salvation. Salvation is only.... "what makes you acceptable to God"....and that is one thing, its GOD'S Righteousness, becoming ours. A born again person, has literally BECOME "the righteousness of Christ", and Christ is GOD. To say that God's Grace is amazing, is really the least of what it is... How can you describe the wonder of God, dying to give you His righteousness in place of your unrighteousness, as a free Gift? Is there a word that can even claim to honor this spiritual transaction enough? Just one. LOVE. Agape` Love. God is LOVE.
  3. Here are some thoughts you might consider, regarding "Losing your Faith"...... and if your bible is near by.......... Here is the reality... > Your Faith does not save you. God SAVED you through your Faith. Big difference. Vital Distinction. So, falling away from it after you are SAVED, basically does nothing but allow God and others to esteem you as a backslider. This person is a sheep who is off the main path but they are not a "LOST" sheep, as they were previously found by Jesus's Blood and redeemed. There are a lot of Christian sheep who are no where near the path of Light, yet they are all Children of the Light. There is no verse in the NT that says....>"ok, you fell out of Christ". And that is because you can't. You are "bone of Jesus Christ's bones, and flesh of Jesus Christ's flesh". "ONE"...>"In Christ". "As Jesus is so are the born again in this world".... right now. "seated in heavenly placed, IN CHRIST....right now". And a backslidden (Christian) says,"" but, i downloaded porn yesterday, and today i stole money from my mother's bank account, and tomorrow im going to fornicate with my stepson again after he's back from Church.""" And this person, who is saved, yet doing all this..... is going to suffer down here. Not today, as sentence against sin, "reaping and sowing", is coming...but it does not happen the day you sin.....but its COMING.... So this person is going to HURT for what they are doing........its coming.........."Sowing and Reaping". This is explained by Ecclesiastes 8:11 Its explained by the "long-suffering (Patience) of God. However.....Paul details it the same.. = that if they dont turn from their "works OF the flesh", repent..... and get back into the righteous walk, then they will "reap what they have sown", be "chastened of God" over and over, and if that won't make them stop, they will , over time, lose everything, except for their Salvation. Family, job, money, friends, lifestyle .GONE.....and then they will get sick, and then they will die. Romans 8:13 As THAT is the final result of SIN, (sinning), as a believer, and continuing to LIVE IN IT. Seems fair... But, what is also a fact, is that this born again person, wont suffer in eternity for those sins, because Jesus has already died for all of them, on a Cross, on Earth. We as BIBLE believers are to understand that in Eternity, in Heaven, the only Sin that God evaluates, to evaluate you, is the one that rejected the Cross. This is the unpardonable sin., as if you do this one, then you prevent the Cross from taking your sin,.....and you die "un-pardoned".....= the un-pardonable....sin. = Christ Rejection. This is actually choosing to go to Hell. Bad choice. See.....Its only a Christ Rejector......it only THIS sin, that is alone dealt with In Heaven, in Revelation 20:11. Great White Throne. Believers die and meet Christ because we Trusted Him on EARTH, but if you didn't, then you dont meet Christ as your Savior, you only meet the JUDGE who Sent Jesus here, and you Rejected Him. And now God will reject YOU.......= Hell .... = THE LAKE OF FIRE ! So, if you are not saved, and you are reading this... please do not reject Christ and meet God as you Judge. Please don't do that. Received Jesus, Trust in Jesus..... kneel at the Cross and receive the LOVE of God.... End up happy in Heaven, and eternally so. Down here, on earth, a believer's bad behavior is dealt with by THE LAW OF... "reaping and sowing". And God will also correct a born again believer, .. Hebrews 12:6...and will anyway. Most Christians have not been taught all this basic NT understanding, but, i just told you, Saints...so, if this is not what you have known before........now you do. The born again meet God as their Father. The unsaved, meet God as their Judge. On earth, all meet "reaping and sowing" for sin or "works of the flesh"..., so, be sure your deeds are not the type that are going to harvest a season of pain in your life. It will come for you, if you do. Your sin will find you out, and it will HURT YOU when it finds you. See, we as humans, we want to judge how WE see it. (self righteousness) But God's ways are higher then ours, as in as high as Heaven is from the earth, is how differently God's thinks and behaves, as compared to how we would try to do the same. WE, as humans, can't even grasp how a holy God would come to earth and die for the UNGODLY. So, that is why, many believers can't stand the fact that God's Grace continues to be the same, for people who are born again,, but who don't live a holy life. What we want to think about them, is that they deserve hell. Thats how we feel.... That's our flesh. That is how it reacts, against the Grace of God, at times. The more of a legalist you are, the more you will have these types of feelings and beliefs. The more you are like Jesus, the less of them, will you have. But God does not see it OUR way. He only sees HIS OWN as "through the Blood". Our flesh rebels at this........but that is not How God responds to THEM. They are His Blood bought Children, and He does not love them less because they are horrible people. He saved them knowing they would turn out to be rotten stinking Christians. But Christians they are, and to HIM they belong, as "new BIRTH", as the Blood Atonement.....decided this for them. To God, ALL sin is pardoned on the CROSS and offered as SALVATION. In fact, that He does not charge you for yours, as Christ has already died for them ALL, is explained in this NT verse. Romans 4:8. If you reader, have not studied this verse deeply, then you are lacking even a shallow understanding of Grace. And you need to study this one also..... Hebrews 13:9. AS if you don't follow that one, early in your born again "babe in Christ" experience, then you'll end up as a devout Legalist on a forum like this one at some point teaching Galatians 1:8. Really. So, sgain....about "losing Faith".... A weak analogy would be : a marriage contract. Say you are married, and your wife or husband hates you. Hates you......Despises you.....and wished you would die....they wish you were dead. Well, do their feelings and attitude and "heart condition" and "words" .... end the marriage? NO < because there is a contract that overrides their hate and words. So, its the same with the Blood of Jesus...It overrides all we do wrong, after we are saved, including what we SAY or DO. ""where SIN Abounds (in the LIFE OF A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN), .. GRACE more abounds". "God who began your salvation in you, will HIMSELF be FAITHFUL to COMPLETE it". Philippians 1:6 "Jesus is the author and FINISHER of your FAITH" Hebrews 12:2 In other words, you can't out-sin Grace. Many try it, but it can't be done. You can only "fall away" from it, and become what Paul is describing in Galatians. ""are you so FOOLISH< (that you use to Trust Christ to keep you saved) , but now you are gone BACK into the (flesh) worrying about the 10 commandments, and the law, and lifestyle, as the WAY you keep yourself saved"? You are FALLEN.......(gotten away from),........"Fallen from GRACE." This is the Legalist. So, understand that "holding onto your faith", is not principally different then keeping the 10 commandments, regarding its inability to save you or keep you saved. A person says......"but my faith is what saved me". And the NT says...."no, God saved you, through your faith". And Jesus said while ON the Cross, "it if finished". A believer says.... "ummm, well, ok, faith does not save me, it's God through the Blood of Jesus who SAVED me.....I see, BUT....what if i fall out of faith". ????? What if you do? What if you don't. This does not stipulate or control or condemn the redemption that has happened to you. "New Birth". "New Creation IN CHRIST". Faith does not do this, it only allows GOD TO DO IT TO YOU, FOR YOU, through your Faith. HE DID iT. ITS DONE. .... if you are born again. Ok, well, there are Legalists that hate this understanding. They will hate my entire Post. They hate it, because it does not allow them to feel they are saving themselves, and that of course, is their problem. Their legalism has replaced real FAITH In Christ ALONE... and so, Now they have resorted to faith in their faith, or its faith in their works.,, or both. This is Legalism. Legalism is literally a person climbing up on the Cross in their self effort to keep themselves SAVED. The legalist, has replace Jesus with > SELF Faith< (what i have to DO)... to TRY to KEEP themselves saved. Thats their issue. This is the issue of Legalism. Paul wrote all about this, in Galatians. Find a lot more about it there....... So, It really does come down to one realization. Its not what you trusted to SAVE YOU< but its what you are trusting to KEEP YOU SAVED.....is the issue. AS right here is where a legalist "falls from Grace", and into "self saving." This is why the legalist can't talk about the Cross, can't talk about Grace, can't talk about the Blood of Jesus with joy or deep understanding...... and how could they?... They can only talk about THEIR savior...which is themselves, trying not to "lose it"....and here comes their list of "do's and don't does to keep themselves saved. ...........10 commandments, overcoming, enduring to the end, the Law, lifestyle, holding unto their faith... and their "saving myself" list just keeps going and going, ........... And what is not on their list, is the Cross or Jesus or the Blood. So, that is the Legalist. They are "fallen from Grace". Grace no longer has a part in their redemption, in THEIR Mind, but in God's perspective these are just people who lost the light and pride kept it turned off . If they were born again, then this is unchanged.......and thank God for that. --- And one more about......." quitting faith, losing faith, ...." Lets say a Christian born again mother has a 2 yr old, that is kidnapped and murdered. So, they catch the person, and he goes to prison for life. But, in her broken and devestated heart, she is asking "why", Why didn't God prevent this.. ?? !!!!! So she says, and means it.... ="" I HATE YOU GOD. BURN IN HELL JESUS> DIE HOLY SPIRIT, .. I hope Heaven BURNS with the Angels in it SCREAMING !!!!!!!!""""" Now do you see that? You are awake now....right? Do you really think that God is going to cast HIS Child of God into the Lake of Fire for eternity....for those words, and that attitude? Is God's love unconditional ? Is the Cross weak at Redemption? Jesus, who is GOD, said that He is ""touched with the FEELINGS of our FEELINGS"". He knows exactly why we feel what we feel, and why we behave like we behave. So....no....this hurting broken destroyed woman is not going into the Lake of fire because she is literally blaming and hating God, and will continue to.......and may die this way, as a broken heart can kill you.........if its broken enough. And if she dies....then she'll meet Jesus, and there is her little girl."mama",, "mama". Talk about happy tears........ So, why does God Hating mama not end up in the Lake of Fire is she dies hating Christ ??? Because this person belongs to God.. She was bought with a price. Redemption is not a temporary solution. Redemption is an Eternal forgiveness. She is "in Christ", and "Christ IN this woman is her hope of Glory". YET....Christians have this idea that God is some sort of anemic, sensitive, can't deal with anything...... vengeful, lightning bolts, revenge seeking, neurotic, emotional infant. But the fact is, God is Love and Love is God's Grace, and Grace is the Blood Atonement, and this is so strong and so eternal, that you cant wash the Blood Of Jesus off your born again spirit by a bad attitude or a mouthful of Hate or a lifetime of living in the flesh. Salvation, is an eternal blood bought contract between the Blood of Jesus and your initial Faith, that results in you going to heaven to be with the family that GOD Joined you to, and put you in, based on THE CROSS.....ALONE. Its because.... once you signed up with Faith, God signed you up with His Eternal Blood. God , is Jesus on the Cross.....shedding His blood to bring you HOME AND KEEP YOU THERE. This is GRACE. Therefore, when you are "atoned for" by God's blood, (GRACE) it does not become voided by hatred, backsliding, or anything we do, and that is because it is GOD who created the means of the CROSS to accept us, and once He does......then that is the final answer. "Accepted in the Beloved". Now here is a little bit more for you.... So, "Faith, faith, faith"., what if i lose my faith". Ok, there is a unique answer for that question also given in the NT. Its in Romans. "Whatsoever is not of FAITH is sin..." So, if you lose your faith, you have sinned. And Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge your SIN to you....after you are washed in the blood of Jesus....so, the "lost faith" sin, is just one more that is under that blanket of Blood, ... all washed clean.. White as snow.
  4. Jesus is the Holy Spirit. God is Jesus, "God was manifested in the Flesh" = Jesus 1 Timothy 3:16 "God is A Spirit" is the verse, vs some phony bibles that say "God is Spirit", .. so, check yours.....becasue "A" Spirit, is a specific TYPE....Its a HOLY One...."Holy Spirit". See, there is an UNHOLY Spirit, the spirit of "anti=Christ", and then there a "A" Spirit, (God is A Spirit), that designates for you the literal and clear distinction between Holy and unholy....so, if your bible says...."God is Spirit"< John 4:24 then get yourself a real bible that says.. "God is A Spirit". Very important. And also check and see if your bible says..."GOD was manifested in the Flesh" in 1 Timothy 3:26, as if it says, "He" instead of "God", then get rid of this bible, as its flawed, and not literally accurate. A flawed bible creates a flawed Christian. Thats a fact. The Holy Spirit is the "comforter" and Jesus is the "Prince of Peace". The Holy Spirit gives you comfort, and this is the "God kind". Jesus said, "My peace , (MY SPECIFIC TYPE OF PEACE), This is the Holy Spirit)... The peace I give is NOT as the (spirit of the world) gives,".. John 14: 27.... because Christ's peace IS the Holy Spirit, The Comforter... which is a heavenly peace. THIS Spirit, is God's, and it is the One that "fills you", and it is the one that "indwells you" only if you are born again, as this is the reason you are born again, and this is why the NT says that "if you don't have the Spirit of God, ( Holy Spirit indwelling you) then you are none of God's", you are not born again, and you are not saved. Romans 8:9 The Peace of God is not "happiness" , its a deep wellness in the soul. Its a comfort that is deeper then feelings. Its supernatural. This is the peace of God, Himself, that comes to live in a person the INSTANT they "Believe on the Lord and you SHALL BE SAVED",= right then.....and this is why many cry and cry when this happens, because this peace heals broken hearts. This peace heals wounded souls. This indwelling of the peace of God, which IS the Love of God, fills the emptiness, and this peace replaces addiction, lust, greed, envy, pride, hate, with self control.... and fills the human heart with contentment. AS ALL THIS is the indwelling fruit of the Holy Spirit. ( Jesus the Vine into us the Branches) Its the "God Effect" that comes to live inside a born again Person. Its the "Kingdom of God" that enters you as you enter INTO it. Colossians 1:13 = BORN AGAIN
  5. A mystery is something that has not been uncovered or revealed. The Trinity is really not a mystery, as this is a misapplied definition that someone once used who didn't understand it, or didnt want to believe it, and it has sort of hung around Christendom, seemingly forever. Now then......The Bible lays out the reality of God's existence, generally, as 3 distinct aspects, yet as One individual whole.... So, here we go.... Lets take a look : First......Think of yourself......are you a spirit , a soul, and a body?......... How many is that?......Well, you are Tri-part being. You are 3 in One. Have you ever noticed the sun in the sky? The Sun: is Heat, Light, and Actinic rays. (ultraviolet, etc). That is 3 parts of the same ONE..... So, is that a mystery? The reason most Christians think of these type things as mysteries, is because we live in the natural world, we exit in the natural realm, and so, what we don't see with our eyes, = "mystery". "seeing is believing". So, God is 3. But He is One. ... Like this : Christ said that He is "In the Father", John 10:30 Thomas kneeled before Christ and said...>"my Lord and my GOD",..... and Jesus didn't correct Him. John 20:28 Christ said......."touch me not, i have not yet ascended to my Father and yours"........ John 20:17 The reason the Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus is .....1.) Envy. 2.) Legalism: Religious Spirit, and because Jesus said......"Before Abraham was...... I AM"....and this is Jesus referring to Himself "pre incarnate", as in Genesis 1, when He was not yet "God manifested as a man, in the FLESH". John 8:58 1 Timothy 3:16 So, we see that Jesus is talking about Himself (referring to Himself as God), before He was later come down from heaven as " God manifested in the FLesh"....... John 8:58 and 1 Timothy 3:16 Ok then, i wrote a simple and quick "Trinity" study recently that i'll now post for you to use if you feel like studying all this, that im posting for yuo Here is the rest.... - 1.) John 1:10.. If you read it, you'll read that Jesus was in and literally placed His feet on the World HE created. 2. ) Colossians 1:6 says that through JESUS, and by Jesus, all things were created. 3.) 1 Timothy 3:16 says that "God" was manifested, (was made flesh and walked among us as a Man) "" 4. ) John 20:28 says that Thomas the Apostle, upon first seeing Jesus after He rose from the dead , said... "My Lord AND MY GOD".... JESUS is the "word made flesh". God made all that you see, by speaking words. "Let there BE...... light, nature, creation, all of it"....>"Let there BE" is like saying, let there BECOME..... God spoke it, and it (creation) appeared. Genesis 1. In the beginning was the Word and the Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was/is God. So, there you have Jesus as the Word before He was sent here to die, being worshipped as God after He was sent here. That is God the Father, and Jesus as the Word made flesh = 2 Then add the Holy Spirit, the comforter...... = 1 2 +1 = 3 Three are "One", as Jesus says. "I and my Father are ONE"..... yet, they are each, one of themselves. "Trinity".
  6. Behold

    John 3:16 = OSAS

    John 3:16, the most universally "known" bible verse ever created...(probably), actually teaches OSAS, and is in fact OSAS. They are the same. God's Grace is OSAS John 3:16 is OSAS Let me show you. Lets study this together. So....once again, let me define OSAS, so that you understand it properly, as there are many liars let loose in the world who have created a false misunderstanding about this term, and so, you need to know what it really means. The Truth. Here is what it really means... OSAS really means... What saved you.......keeps you saved. We are KEPT saved by What saved Us. = We are saved by JESUS, and we are Kept saved by Jesus. Philippians 1:6 Hebrews 12:2 OSAS means, that the Blood of Jesus, that saved us, keeps us saved. Thats it. Thats what it means. And here is John 3:16 that explains it as i have just defined it. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world......that HE GAVE His Only Begotten Son, that whosoever BELIEVES IN JESUS, would not PERISH, but HAS eternal-everylasting life." This verse is one of the ways the NT defines OSAS, and there are many many others. So, lets look at this scripture, in LIGHT of OSAS that means....>"we are saved by Jesus and we are KEPT SAVED by Jesus. = OSAS Now, im going to drill down into this verse a little bit for you, so that you can get the wide perspective of it, in case you are a preacher, teacher, .... or maybe you want to do a Sunday School lesson on this verse, at some point. Therefore, (as always) i'll rightly divide it for you, using in context NT verses that support it. John 3:16........."For God so love the world that He GAVE His only begotten Son. So, how did God give Him?.......God gave Jesus THE Christ, to the WORLD, as a virgin born male, who is the "2nd Adam" who does not literally have an earthly father, which means Jesus is not born with a fallen Adamic (sin nature). Jesus's spiritual nature, is God, because Jesus is God. So then.. He lives a sinless life, and goes to the Cross and dies there..... bearing our Sin. (God so Love the world) the verse says and this is why and to whom Jesus was sacrified ...... And once this is accomplished...(Cross = Salvation), then Jesus says from the Cross...>"it is finished". And that is correct. Salvation, The Blood Atonement is now a completed OFFERING, to the WORLD, to all who would come.... Its a finished Salvation that is waiting to be given for free, ALL THE TIME, EVERYDAY, to anyone who will by FAITH "believe on the name of Jesus, and you shall be SAVED". Then.....and here comes OSAS.. you read in the verse that the born again who have obeyed this verse, (BELIEVED) will never "PERISH".....so, that is explained in John 10:28 were Jesus says you will never "perish", (can't go to hell, can't be damned)(eternal security)... and the born again are also GIVEN .. (you dont earn it) "Eternal Life". Listen Saint... Eternal life IS not a time frame.. ok? This phrase does not mean..."infinity and forever"..but rather, this is the POWER OF JESUS created concept that refers to living with Him and God, in the family of God, as the Body Of Christ, in ETERNITY. "Eternal life", is Jesus Himself, who IS the "resurrection and the LIFE"..... See that "life"...... THAT is eternal Life.......and here it is again...... John 14:6... Jesus saying....."i am The Way, The Truth, and THE LIFE"......and there it is again. Jesus is talking not about a time frame, but He is talking about HIMSELF< who IS Eternal Life... John 11:25 .. So,= this is OSAS......the fact that if you have Jesus..."Christ in you", and you are "in Christ", then because JESUS IS ETERNAL LIFE< then you have it right now, because you have HIM right now, and He has YOU right now = OSAS. Your Eternal Life, does not start after you are DEAD...... You have it NOW. You, the born again, are translated from darkness to Light.....right now. Jesus is the Light of the World and you are Children of the Light.....right NOW. Or as John says in 1 John 5:13 "i write these words so that you will KNOW". Know what? What does John want you to KNOW? ? ? That if you have BELIEVED on CHRIST, then you have ETERNAL LIFE. HAVE IT.........not waiting for it....but HAVE IT, = right now. So, see how ALL that fits like a glove with John 3:16 ? This is the interesting thing about OSAS.....This understanding, is all over the NT. The NT is filled with verses that speak about how Jesus saves you and keeps you saved. Paul will tell you. John just told you, and in fact the entire NT is the Blood of Jesus being written to you as a revelation of God, and how He saved you using a Cross and KEEPS YOU Saved with the Blood of Christ that was shed for you. = OSAS. blessings, <dw><
  7. Behold

    Jesus <> God

    2nd Corinthians 4:6 : " For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."" Let us search the way this verse reveals how Jesus is God.... John 1:10 So beautiful. --------------------------- """For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness......"""" This is not only a reference to Genesis....."let there be LIGHT". But its a reference to and a description of Yeshua, who IS TRUTH, John 14:6....& came to this fallen (Dark) World He created, John 6:51 and shined and still shines, as the "Light of the World". Its also a statement regarding spiritual darkness, as the state of the fallen, defined as "the World", as they are described as having their "mind's blinded" by the Devil. 2nd Corinthians 4:4. As.... if you are mentally - spiritually blinded, then you are INSIDE Spiritual Darkness, and it is INSIDE YOU. The verse continues... "hath shined in our hearts".... Here the idea is, that The Truth (as shining) is being revealed to us, concerning Christ, who is the shining Light of the world. He is not "a" truth, but in fact Jesus is "THE" Truth. John 14:6 and continuing the revelation, (the shining)... and now explaining the "why" of the (shining) revelation.. = what is the purpose? "to give the knowledge".... as this is the reason for all "Light" that is given. Its to reveal and impart... Its a means to open the eyes of your Spiritual UNDERSTANDING.... as something revealed by the shining Light of revelation, is an opening into the understanding of a spiritual knowledge. This is the purpose of the shining of the light (revelation) into our hearts.... And what is the revelation? First.... That Jesus has been revealed to us, by our spiritual awakening. (Quickening). We have been given the revelation that Jesus is the Messiah, The Savior, The Son of God, who is the One sent from and came down from Heaven, John 6:51. and that Jesus alone is Salvation...."THE way". "i am THE resurrection".... "that you may KNOW that you have eternal life", as Jesus IS eternal life. The reason you have eternal life right now, is because you have Jesus, who IS Eternal Life. and foremost the revelation is to expose THIS Truth.... = "of the Glory of God......(where ?) .= IN THE FACE of Jesus Christ."""" And what is the Glory of God? Its His essence.. Its His Righteousness, ..... Its His nature..... it's His image..... Its HIMSELF, revealed as JESUS the Righteous, whose name...is HOLY., and Holy is the Lamb. They are the same. They are One. In the beginning the word was God, and God Timothy 3:16. is manifested in the Flesh as "I am". This is why when Thomas, upon first seeing Jesus after He was resurrected said...."my Lord and my GOD", and Jesus didn't correct Him, as why would God correct the Truth regarding Himself ? ??? So, THIS = is why you have this verse in the NT.....> "if you've seen ME (Jesus) you've SEEN the Father,""", as God and Jesus are mirrors of each other. Jesus is the image of God, the Face of God, the Grace of God, the Truth of God, The Blood of God, the Word of God, the Spirit of God, the Glory of God, the Righteousness of God, the Heart of God, The Love of God, the Forgiveness of God, and the Power of God. Jesus is God.
  8. The reason a believer would not have eternal confidence that they are going to heaven, subsequent to (following) their Salvation, is because no one has truly taught them how to understand Salvation. See, there are a lot of ways to teach "Salvation", but there is only on True Way to teach it, and to understand it. To begin with...... many have the idea that Salvation is..... "i heard the gospel, believed it, and i trusted in Christ". Ok, thats true........ but how did THAT make certain that you are going to heaven?.........So, THIS is what so many of you were not taught, after you were born again, and so many find themselves going along for the rest of their born again lives pulling daisies and asking themselves....."did i lose it, .....did i confess it back........did i lose it again.........did i confess it back.........did i lose it.........do i need to go back to the alter for the 17th time and get "re-saved"....do i need to do a penance.... do i need to find a priest and tell him all so that he can make me right with God, again..........and so on, and on and on, and on, and on, on on on .....> So, lets just explain How God saved you, and then you can leave your salvation in His hands and out of yours, as you are incapable of saving yourself or keeping yourself saved. Philippians 1:6 Here we go.. By the time you were 17 you had long passed the age of accountability where you had become a sinner. So, this put you in a situation that we all face........"Ive sinned, and unforgiven sinners dont go to heaven to live in Joy and Harmony with God, for all eternity". So, immediately, we see the issue........The issue is not.. being good vs being bad, and the issue is not doing right or doing wrong...... The ISSUE is your SIN is going to keep you out of heaven.....Thats your issue, when you are LOST. And that is the ONLY issue that can keep you and God apart........And it WILL for eternity, unless this "sin caused disconnect" is resolved...... and you can't do this for yourself. Understand.......Salvation, is GOD dealing with your sin, FOR YOU, because He loves you. "For God so loved the world, YOU, that He GAVE"......... John 3:16 Now, all that is the REASON for Salvation....... As Salvation is simply the means and effect by which God comes into your life and heart and spirit and resolves YOUR Sin issue for you. And this is the "Grace of God", taking care of your SIN, for you....for FREE......as "Salvation is a GIFT". The "Grace of God" is God Himself coming to YOU to solve YOUR Sin issue that is keeping you and God SEPARATED. People who die separated from God, will stay this way for eternity, and "hell" is where you begin that existence. So, Salvation is God coming to you, to resolve for eternity, YOUR SIN ISSUE that has parted you from Him, and His family, and Heaven itself. Sin is your curse and God is your Cure. Sin is your soul sickness and the Blood of Jesus is the REMEDY. You have a sin issue, as your sin is ON YOU and IN YOU and you are being held accountable for it, John 3:36... and if you dont get this resolved, then as Jesus says.."you will DIE IN YOUR SIN".....and if that happens, you are going to go to hell, and not just there.....but eventually to the "lake of fire", and there is no getting out, there is no END. Hell and the Lake of Fire will last for as long as God LIVES......And He's an Eternal Being. Now, how is SIN resolved?........Its resolved by the application of SALVATION, that God Himself applies to you, so that your SIN, once and for all, is dealt with finally and forever. Lets get right to it now..... How does GOD resolve your SIN issue so that He can Accept you and for all eternity?. As once this has happened, then "Salvation" has been applied, rendered, and given to you from God Himself, which is an eternal situation. So, How does God resolve your sin, so that He can accept you, and not just for a few weeks....? 1. ) Simple.....He eternally replaces your sin with His Very Righteousness........"The Gift of Righteousness". "The Atonement". 2.) He removes the Law's power to judge you any longer as a "sinner", (Romans 4:8) and from this point, you are never viewed by God ever again as a sinner, but only as a "joint heir with Christ" and in fact a "Son/Daughter of God", and exactly connected to God just like Jesus. Now, i said i would keep this simple, but i had to write a bit of explanation, so that you could see what God had to take care of for you (your sin), so that by taking care of it for you (Jesus on The Cross), you could understand WHY Salvation has nothing to do with your behavior.....but Everything to do with God solving your sin issue FOR YOU, that disconnected you from Him. ----- So, moving along..... A little deeper.... God looks at us, before we are born again.....as the "adamic fallen", the sinners, the unbelievers, the LOST< and He had the responsibility to offer the only WAY.. (John 14:6) that you could be accepted by Him, back into His family, and for all eternity. How? God knows that to accept you, for you to belong to Him.... you have to be like Him........ And how is that?.....>"God's name is HOLY".......... That is how. He had to recreate you, (born again) so that you possess HIS VERY RIghteousness, as yours... In other words, YOU have to become, literally "the righteousness of God, In Christ", before He can accept you as His own.. So, what did He have to do, to GET THIS to you?.........Well, God literally had to become like you.... He literally came to this earth as Jesus, and OFFERS<>< FREELY GIVES you His Righteousness AS A FREE GIFT FROM THE CROSS.......>"God became one of us".....and He literally lived and met the requirements of His own LAW, and lived it perfectly, sinlessly....and then he took this to a Cross, this sinless - law keeping - perfection..... and sacrificed it (Himself) as a Gift to you and me. And Christ's sinlessness combined with the Sacrifice for the Sin of the World on a Cross, IS, Salvation as a finished "work of redemption" And here is where it gets even more interesting...... This Act of God, His sinless LIFE combined with His sacrificial Death on a Cross, is a completed situation, that exists... Its a living gift....Its alive....Its Power.....Its Redemption. It Exists for over 2000 years as a living OPPORTUNITY to have it.......... applied, for FREE. Now.....A low rent and pretty lame analogy would be.......... There is a Billion Dollars in the bank......and its WAITING TO BE APPLIED, Given.....to "all who would come". Salvation, is always there, waiting to be applied...waiting to be GIVEN. = This unconditional love of God, this Amazing Grace, that is God Himself solving the sin issue for "all would who come".......Is always there, waiting to do it for anyone and everyone who would turn from themselves, turn to the Cross, kneel, and say......."I believe, i receive, and i trust".. Faith : is Trust. Faith : is Trust. And when anyone offers this FAITH, their TRUST to God, ....He Instantly applies the gift of Salvation unto them, upon them, and within them.....once and forever. = Born Again. "Salvation". ------- wrapping it up time.... ""Salvation""......now simplified ........is........ God took the responsibility of your life, your eternal life, upon Himself. And to do so He completely resolved the issue of your sin, by becoming a man, and dying for your sin. Which....is offering you not only the freedom from the judgment due you for your sin by taking it upon Himself on a Cross.....but He also replaces your unholiness with His very Righteousness...... He gives this to you as "the gift of Righteousness", and in this way, you become "the righteousness of God, IN Christ", that He can accept, and nothing else will He accept. And how does He finally seal the deal?..........= He abolishes the law and establishes Grace in its place, so that only the BORN AGAIN are "no longer under the law, but under Grace", and by completing this final act, by removing from you (the Law) that can no longer deem you or judge you to be a sinner......."where there is no Law, there is no Transgression".... Romans 4:8.........He has stopped the LAW from having the power to judge you to be (by Himself) a sinner AFTER you are saved.. This had to be so, or the effect of becoming holy so that God could accept you, would be destroyed 20 mins after you were saved, when you did something wrong So, God took care of it all. He (became) took you sin upon Himself on the Cross . He replaced your sin with His "Gift of Righteousness", and then to make certain the Law could not judge you ever again as a "sinner". (Romans 4:8) God abolished the Law, and replaced it with Grace, so that your eternal life would always be secured by what HE did for you. "Salvation". <B><
  9. Behold

    Holiness 1 & 2

    - There are 2 perspectives regarding a Believer's Holiness that we might consider together. One, is God's, and His perspective is that we are/were made the "righteousness of God in Christ". So, according to God, once we are saved, (born again) we have now being given (through our faith) the very righteousness of Jesus, Himself. This is why the New Testament says...> "As JESUS is, so are WE in this world". So, welcome to your Salvation.:) Now, where this becomes like trying to figure out a Rubik's cube in the dark for many believers, is when they read this Literal Truth, then they take a good close look at themselves and all other believers Then immediately its as if the words of God have been misquoted, or are terribly inaccurate. How can WE, be Holy, and as Righteous as God?..... After all, if you just look at yourself since you were saved then you would think that the Bible must be joking. But its not joking, and its not lying. It is telling you the Truth. See, there is the word "Sonship"......and this is to be understood as our Family of God status, currently, as we are "in Christ", and "Seated in Heavenly Places". So, right now if you are born again, you are a Son of God, seated in heavenly places,...... but, aren't you reading what im writing while sitting in your room? Is it in Heaven? So, RIGHT THERE, is the disconnect with what many dont understand, at all, about their Salvation. Listen Saint, you are made just as Righteous as God and Christ by Christ's Righteousness being given to you, imputed to you, deposited within you = in equal measure to His, = the very second you trusted Christ as your Savior. See, to be equal in Righteousness to God, has to be your Heavenly status, or God cannot accept you as His family member, or even fellowship with you. This is why you are given the "Gift of Righteousness" from God Himself, through the Blood Atonement, that changes your eternal status from Sinner to Saint, and from unbeliever to "Son of God". Hallelujah !!! If you understand this already, then you should thank the Lord again and again................>. And if you come to see this revelation for the first time, I promise you that upon the reveal of this inner enlightenment, you will want to shout !! This is the Joy of the Lord. This is the happy hearted bliss and Joyful effect of God's Grace and Mercy upon you and in you. Remember that you are "translated from darkness to light"? and you have become one of the Children of Light who is now living in a New Kingdom that is made without hands? This is your eternal "born again" position. This is who you are now become to GOD, the instant He accepted your faith and gave you His eternal "Gift of Righteousness".. Which is,= "Son of God", "seated in heavenly places" "in Christ", " as Jesus is, so are YOU in this world", "Children of the Light", with Jesus Himself being the LIGHT of the World. So, all that, is the new HOLY you, who has been born again, into this Sonship Status. And all that is what GOD did for you ON THE CROSS so that He could take you back and keep you as His family member. Titus 3:5 : God saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we have done, but because of His own compassion and mercy, by the cleansing of the new birth (spiritual transformation, regeneration) and renewing of our spirit by the Holy Spirit. ======================================================================================== Part 2 is.. You are living in a body and you have a mind and you have fleshly desires that you have to deal with, every day. And you are told that you are to take your earthly existence and redefine yourself in Lifestyle, according to your Heavenly Sonship Position, according to God's word. This is YOUR PART. This is "Discipleship". So, down here, in your earth suit, living your earthly life, you are to live it according to your Heavenly Sonship Position, which is, that you are ( "in the Spirit realm", which is God's realm), to live on Earth, Holy, according to what God says this means. And what does this mean? It means that you are to follow Paul, who told you to do so, as He follows Christ. So, in deed, words, and behavior, you are to, as Paul did, become this : Philippians 3:8 """""Nothing is as wonderful as knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. I have given up everything else and count it all as garbage. All I want is Christ """" and : Galatians 2:20 """""And I have been crucified with The Messiah, and from then on I myself have not been living, but The Messiah is living in me, and this that I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of The Son of God, he who has loved us and has given himself for us.""""" So, the simple answer is....... In the first case, you are now become Jesus's Righteousness and this has given you a new identity "in Christ", and you are currently seated in Heaven with your Savior next to God your Father. In the 2nd case, you are still confined to your earth suit, and in it you are to live Holy and in awe of God, every second you are awake. And what does this accomplish down here? Well as Paul teaches.....(down here) .you are being grown up from a "born again babe in Christ" into the fullness of the adult measure of Christ. You start with the milk of the word and you mature to grasp and live according to the meat of the word. You are being transformed, after your new birth, (and until you die or are Raptured) from "glory to glory" to the point that you are far along into the spiritual process of becoming just like Jesus. = The end result of your Eternal SALVATION. So, you ARE (right now) a perfect Holy Son, based on "The Gift of Righteousness" becoming who you are "in Christ", and you are also a born again work in progress, in the natural, in your earth suit, and this part is left up to you to accomplish, given God's grace to help you along the way. B
  10. Would anyone like to talk about the Hope of Israel? The Apostle Paul said: "for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain." I searched this site for this phrase and found nothing. That Paul was prepared to be a captive for this hope is telling. Shouldn't we, too, have the same hope?
  11. 1 Cor 14:34 34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. KJV Spock: note here that Old testament is old testament, But Paul said as Also saith the law. He is in agreement with the law. now we are no longer under the law, But it would be still be good not to kill. not to bear false witness and so on. To Him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin, so as the law says not to kill we accept that as something good to do "not to kill" as well as Paul is saying they agree with the law that it is good women be under obedience, as the church is under obedience to Christ.
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