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  1. I'm a former Oneness Pentecostal, also known as Apostolics or Jesus Only; I was involved with them in London, England in the last 1980s. Would anyone like to ask me some questions about them? I've studied their doctrines for almost thirty years now. My YouTube channel (Christian Comedy Channel) has a Oneness playlist with 99 videos and my channel has well over 7 million hits.
  2. ‘I and my Father are one.’ (John 10:30, KJV). ‘ego kai ho patar ev esmen: (John 10:30: The Nestles Greek text). ‘I ((Subject)) and ((conjunction)) my Father ((object)) are ((verb 1st-person-plural)) one ((adjective)).’ (John 10:30, KJV). Oneness Pentecostals (Apostolics), and I used to be one back in the 1980s, would need to explain the use of the verb ‘to be,’ which a first person plural at John 10:30; ‘I and my Father (we) are one.’ This verse does not record Jesus as saying; ‘I am the Father,’ for such a direct claim by Jesus to be God the Father, would have included the verb ‘to be’ in the first person singular: ‘I am.’ But Jesus at John 10:30 instead applies a plural verb to both the Father and also to the Son; ‘are’ as in ‘we are,’ which is the verb ‘to be,’ (esmen) a present tense, in first person plural. This is why he specifically claimed to be God’s Son, and not God the Father himself at John 10:36; ‘Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?’ Secondly, why is the Greek neuter word ‘hen’ for ‘one’ used at John 10:30 rather than the masculine Greek word for “one,” which is the Greek ‘heis?’ This masculine word is always used in the Greek, to describe God as ‘one’ in the strictly numeric sense, and so logically it would be the only word which Jesus could use to claim that he is himself really God the Father in an absolute and literal sense. So the neuter word ‘hen,’ just means to be ‘one in agreement’ or to be ‘one in unity’ with another person, it’s used that way at 1st Corinthians 3:8, where Paul planted and Apollos watered so that were one (hen), which doesn’t mean that Paul is claiming that he was Apollos! Paul is just saying that they worked together as a team, but not that they were both the same one person! As a former Oneness Pentecostal, allow me to warn people against this error, which is sweeping through and taking over nominally Trinitarian Pentecostal and Charismatic Churches around the world. I do have a video on my own YouTube channel of me explaining this verse, however, I do not know if I am permitted to post this here, possibly the admins could help me with the rules.
  3. I'm not active in one part of this community because there seems to be a lot of upset going on there. I thought I'd post this article link here in case anyone wanted to get to the bare bones of what appears to be in contention in the other part of Worthy Christian. It's a really long article but in my opinion of it even if someone approaches the study as I did and reads it in periods of time over the course of days, and just so as not to cross their eyes with all that writing on a lit Internet page, it is worth the time it takes. Because it seems like when we're all suppose to be Christians who love and hold dear Jesus Christ, we argue over who's church or denominations teachings concerning a certain set of beliefs are the one. And we seem to also be arguing , some of us anyway from what I can tell, that other peoples church, or denomination, are totally off and not of Christ at all. That's kinda mean. And even when Jesus corrected people he may have used flowery language, like calling them vipers, but he still loved them enough to set them straight. And after all aren't we all who are in the heart of Christ suppose to come at one another in that same love he has for us? This link below like I said may seem huge in the scope of an information page but it may help clear up what seems to be really passionate people taking sides on the topic of doctrine. Let me know what you think. Enjoy. I hope. Love ya, Lemur http://www.masters-table.org/studies/doctrine.html
  4. Admins: could we have a separate forum for non-Trinitarian sects, so that we could discuss their particular false doctrines. If any Jehovah's Witness, Mormon or Oneness Apostolic were to join these forums, then we could evangelize them and help them to see the truth of the Trinity and Christ's full humanity and deity. I've made cult evangelism as specialization for many years, my having come out of the Oneness (Apostolic - Jesus Only) movement in 1989. A separate chat room for such cults might attract a few brave souls to come and visit us, please don't argue about people being corrupted or their faith compromised, as there are more than enough people who can give a good Trinitarian witness to these cults, I myself although not a DD or an expert, nonetheless do have 28 years experience in evangelizing cults.
  5. “42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.” (Luke 23:42, KJV). The repentant thief asks Jesus to remember him when he came into his kingdom, please notice that this noun is a singular. To which Jesus replies that today (that very day), the thief would accompany Christ in his kingdom, which he called "paradise" implying that at that very time God’s kingdom was then a present event, Christ ruling over both the faithful dead saints, as well as his faithful servants then living upon the earth. So notice that the thief assumes, and Christ's reply accepts, that there is only one single Kingdom, over which the thief hopes, and Christ then confirms that he will then become a part of this single Kingdom. Christ didn't tell the thief that there are actually two different kingdoms, as in some more extreme dispensational theology; firstly the Kingdom of God and secondly the Kingdom of Heaven, and that Christ will place him into one of these two (plural) kingdoms. There is only one Kingdom! My theology is on the whole mostly covenant theology (reformed). I mean no disrespect to the dispensationalists, but can those of the more extreme flavour prove their claim to multiple Kingdoms?
  6. I was once a Oneness Pentecostal (Apostolic), way way back in the later 1980s, I left and became a Trinitarian after I had written a tract for them, promoting the Oneness view of Water Baptism and offering £1,000 if anyone could disprove the Oneness claim that you must be baptised with the formula: Lord Christ Christ in order to be saved. I live in the south-west of the UK (Plymouth) and no longer attend any fellowship, as that would be too painful to me, but I see the main Oneness claims (i.e. that Jesus is God the Father, and that the baptismal formula is Lord Jesus Christ), taking over so many individual believers in local fellowships, which nominally are Trinitarian, but within which elders and other leaders teach exactly as they choose, which is often anti-Trinitarian! The church situation here in the UK is so bad as to be dire beyond belief, you can't even sit down and discuss the Bible with religious people, they switch off the moment you try to discuss scripture. GOD TV has had a big part to play in this.
  7. Albert Finch

    Sunday School - January 8, 2017

    Philippians 3:12 -- "But I keep going on, trying to grasp that purpose for which Christ Jesus grasped me." Psalm 63:1 -- "O God, You are my God, earnestly will I seek You: my inner self thirsts for you, in a dry and thirsty land where there is no water." OBSERVATIONS: I do not want to just give mental assent to Christian doctrine. I want to see, have contact with, and live in the experienced reality of Christ's actual presence. I want to press into God to lay hold of the purpose for which Christ Jesus has saved me and wants me to be. INTO ACTION: What are you doing to commune with, embrace, and press into the Lord Jesus? ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY
  8. John 6:63 - "It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are life." WHEN WE HALT OUR SPIRITUAL ASCENT TOWARD GOD AT THE PLATEAU OF DOCTRINAL KNOWLEDGE, WE BECOME PEOPLE WHO NEVER REALLY CHANGE. INSTEAD, OUR OLD NATURE SIMPLY PRETENDS TO BE NEW. THE LONGER WE SETTLE FOR JUST HEAD KNOWLEDGE, THE MORE OUR CHRISTIANITY BEGINS TO DEGENERATE INTO A RELIGIOUS SPIRIT. Romans 8:26 - "Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered." There are times when we are called by God to pray strong prayers and help to birth the will of God into an area. These strong desires mirror the strength of God's feelings. We, like Hannah, need to be in-tune with what God is ready to bring forth in that given hour. That can only be done through intimacy with God and through a willingness to allow Him to use us. Affirmation: I CONFESS THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MY PARTNER! HE ENLIGHTENS MY EYES; HE SHOWS ME WHAT I CANNOT SEE BY MYSELF, AND HE GIVES ME THE RIGHT WORDS TO SAY WHEN I PRAY. WITH HIM AS MY HELPER I AM GETTING BETTER AND BETTER IN PRAYER EVERY DAY! Song of Solomon 1:2,3 - "For your love is better than wine and your ointments more fragrant than the choicest perfumes; your name is as ointment poured forth; therefore do the maidens love you." THE NAME OF THE BRIDEGROOM (JESUS) IS SO LOVELY THAT YOU FIND YOURSELF WHOLLY OVERCOME BY HIS POWER AND SWEETNESS. LOVE TAKES PLACE WITHOUT ANY FORCE. YOUR SPIRIT IS SO FULL OF LOVE AND YOU FIND THE LOVE OF YOUR BELOVED SO PLEASURABLE, THAT YOU ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE CARRIED AWAY BY THE CHARMS OF LOVE. ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY
  9. Omegaman 3.0

    5 Minute Theology

    Five Minute Theology (updated from May 8, 2015) I recently purchased a small book entitled "Concise Theology - A Guide to Historic Christian Beliefs" by J.I. Packer. I think the book is excellent, and it is what is describes itself as. Each topic in the book is only a page, or a page and a half, so it is truly concise. The topics also cite scripture verse addresses to support the conclusions. The book is also easy to understand for most people I think, assuming that they have normal capacity for understanding, and God's grace of the Holy Spirit to enable them to understand and accept spiritual truths. I was calling this, "Five Minute Theology, because that is about how much time it takes to read each topic. Those who are not born again, might have difficulty accepting it, as they do many things of God, and of course, even believers have trouble accepting and understanding the things of God at times. If that were not true, then all believers would agree on all doctrines, and likely denominations would be far less common or important. Copyright issues will keep me from posting the entire book online, but I thought perhaps, some people might be interested in reading a chapter at a time, so I thought perhaps I could quote small amounts of it at a time, in the Bible Study room of the Arrow Chat or Comet Chat feature of Worthychat. For those who choose to participate, they will not receive a seminary level degree of instruction on Christian theology, but they will come away knowing the basics of historic Christian theology, which in my estimation, would bring them easily into the upper 5% of believers, in terms of knowing what the church has believed and accepted, as the teaching of the Bible, concerning faith and practice. This amounts to, essentially, an elaborate statement of faith. My idea is to paste quotes of this book, into the room, and those present may read these quotes. Then afterward, if people have questions, or want to comment or otherwise discuss what was posted, they are of course, welcomed to do so. Now, of course theologians and lay Christians alike, disagree over so details or peripheral theology, and that will be no different here, so there may be some debate, some disagreement on some points discussed. This is okay, that can be done as long as people are willing and able to be civil and respectful in their discussions. For those who do not care to attend this event, or do not want to participate in the discussion and or just hate debate and disagreement, the regular section of Worthychat is open for them, without be disturbed by the activities in the Bible Study room. My hope and goal here, is that this will prove to be both instructional, and edifying, and that the discussion of these topics, will add a dimension of depth for our chatters, that is too often absent at times. We had the first chat session in July of 2015. I cannot commit to the frequency of these events, but I hope to make them a regular feature. This is still a bit of an experiment. Our chatters come from every time zone, and some have schedules which will keep them from participating no matter what time is chosen. This is a problem for which I know no solution. Possibly, it can be reduced by doing this at more that one day of the week, or hour of the day, we'll have to see. There are 94 topics, so as you can see, if we did this once a week, this would take about one year and 9 and a half months to finish. That is a big commitment for those who would want to attend, and for the one leading. Of course, chatters do not have to commit to attendance, but I do not think there is a chatter who would not benefit from attending. Of course, if you are interested, you can always just purchase and read read the book , but my thinking is, that we would or could benefit, from the discussion of the topics. Perhaps, we could even do more than one topic per week, I would be interested in hearing your thoughts and suggestions - about if you would be interested in participation, and best of good times to do this, etc. I am going to disable comments on this post here in my "Thoughts and Rants Blog" - I put this here for the exposure. If you want to comment, I suggest that you do so in the Worthychat section of the forum. You can see more of my blog entries here.
  10. nothings to believe in world,, even any one,, but only God,, this is life experience and God's word direction too..
  11. I am posing those two questions, because I believe they have two different answers. I think that as Christians, many of us may have an inaccurate or incomplete understanding of God's love. My hope here is to initiate a conversation, wherein the participants can bring out a fuller understanding of God's love, than many of us currently understand. I feel sure that there are many here, who are mature in the word, and can contribute to this topic. I hope that each post has information to offer, not just an opinion of a yes or know, as if this was a poll. I good read, and an excellent free resource, is by noted New Testament scholar, Don Carson. I reserve the right to close this topic, if it gets ridiculously redundant, bitter, or so long that it is in danger of intimidating new readers because of it's length. I know some will not read threads, when the post count gets really high. They may have an interest in the topic, but do not want to wade through a tedious amount of verbiage. If I decide to close it, I will probably add a final post with a bulleted list of all the points you were able to develop about God's love from the pages of scripture.
  12. As the title suggests,I want to know the characteristics of conservative Christianity ,which distinguish it from liberal Christianity. I know many people call themselves conservative Christians,But I really don't know the difference between them and more liberal Christians.
  13. Hello to Everyone, I am new to this website and I hope to make friends with loving Christians. The purpose of my joining this website is to share the good news of Jesus. I am a living witness who can attest that the words spoken in the scriptures by Jesus were fulfilled in my life. I have lived a life filled with incredible miracles, which has been gifted to me by Jesus. I was once a lost sheep and Jesus came to rescue me through countless miracles. I have been privy to the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven and received miracle images. Jesus asked that I write and share all of the gifts he has given to me with the world in his book. I am embarrassed to say that my initial reaction upon receiving this request was not one of joy but of doubt. I protested that I had no authority to write on divine matters for I am a sinful man. Jesus would have none of this and through a series of miracles made me understand that it was his will. Just as Moses tried to rebuff Gods commandment by not being worthy of it, I did the same. I did not know at that time that I was speaking to Jesus directly. I only learned of this when I witnessed his miracles and understood never to doubt his will. I have built a website that is filled with details on this. If you would like to hear my story, then please encourage me to get the necessary 5 replies so that I can post more fully my testimony in the testimonials section. I assure you that you will really get to know the real Jesus who died for our sins. Thank-you for your kindness, My name is Gianni
  14. Howdy. New to forum. My topic question is rhetorical, yet vitally important. Can we, as believers, be confident in the doctrinal truth to which we adhere, or must we resign ourselves to waiting until we are face to face with Christ to be sure? Asking the question to stimulate discussion, sharpen iron and God willing, build others up. If the answer to my topic question is affirmative, what action should follow & why? Blessings, Crakdpot
  15. So I've been studying Ezekiel this week and came across chapter 18. See Ezekiel 18. So first, what does Ezekiel 18 say to modern parents? Second, what do you think of the following thoughts and passage below? It is not the responsibility of parents’ for the actions of their children. Children by the same token are not responsible for the actions of their parents either. Each must give an account to God for his or her actions. Ezekiel 18:19-20 19 “Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. 20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. God bless, GE
  16. Hi, I'm new here. My name is Keenan, but feel free to call me leaf. I signed up for this forum to ask some questions about Christians. Broadly speaking, they relate to: Worship of Jesus Tradition [interpretation] Unity and salvation I would appreciate your opinion on all three of those if you have time. First and foremost, I'm not here to debate. So I will be sitting here with a Bible doing my best to grasp what you're trying to teach. So for my understanding. . . Why do many Christians worship Jesus? Given, even if he is the true substance of God, I has always been uncomfortable with this. I thought all men were supposed to worship and pray to God the Father. The majority of non-Catholic or Orthodox Christians don't have a unified tradition, which would seem to make exegesis, storing of knowledge, and Christian identity pretty difficult to maintain. For example, spending some hours studying Talmud, I know that imagining a likeness of God or Jesus in my head to pray to is creating a false likeness to worship, a mental idol. All Jews will know this, for generations, uniting people by similar understanding. Alternatively, every church seems to develop a different corpus of knowledge with conflicting interpretations and quoting without memorizing most of the Bible, which seems necessary to ensure you're interpreting quotes correctly. Christianity, as far as I know so far, teaches on the importance of faith and the fruit it bears. Here, I believe fruits simply refers to good acts? Most Christians on Earth are Catholic or Orthodox, believe in salvation through Jesus (faith). Yet non-Catholics quite often don't recognize them as Christians. I don't understand this if indeed faith saves, even if they believe good behaviour is necessary. But many Christians are convinced of their salvation without (here I speak metaphorically) sharing their water with their neighbour. (kudos if you get the reference ). Lasltly, how do you feel about the mystical study on Christianity. Both the Jewish and Muslim faiths have such understandings. For example, does the structure of the cross have multiple meanings for man, his spiritual history and future, both real, figurative, and esoteric?
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