kross Posted February 16, 2009 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,773 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/27/1957 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Why have Christians started using BCE and CE instead of BC and AD? And when do they start and stop? Is CE at CHRIST's birth (which really wouldn't be the start of the Christian Era) or at HIS death? To me, before CHRIST makes more sense than Before Christian Era. Let's keep giving the man HIS due. Let's keep measuring time from CHRIST's advent. HE is the one that stopped and restarted time, not HIS people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller Posted February 16, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 827 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 12,101 Content Per Day: 1.50 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 04/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted February 16, 2009 It's not Before Christian Era. It's Before Common Era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusting Jesus Posted February 16, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,050 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/12/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/09/1952 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have noticed this, too. In m opinion it is just one more way that the non-Christian world is trying to ingnore Christ. I've read about this on Jewish sites and they like using "common era" and "before common era" because they don't believe that time should depend on Jesus. Sad. I choose to use AD and BC, and just might start using them where I haven't before....like when I write a check, or a letter. This would be a way to put it in people's minds and maybe open a way to talk about Jesus. <>< ><> Nathele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yacov Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Kross, Why have Christians stopped using G-d's calendar? That is the one that is in the bible. It is the one that G-d gave to Rabbi Moshe at Mt. Sinai. If you use G-d's calendar, it is much easier to know when the Appointed Times of G-d are. One Answer: Constatine changed this because he did not want anyone knowing when Yeshua would come. There are many who follow the teachings of Yeshua that are not christians. Jews can never be a christian even is he or she is a student of Yeshua. None of the disciples were christians, Jesus was not a christian nor was He the first christian, and none of the writers of the New Testament were christians. They were all Jews and maybe one proselyte, but even they are considered Jewish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted February 16, 2009 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If you follow Christ, you are a Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Believer Posted February 16, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 121 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,931 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/22/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1955 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Kross, Why have Christians stopped using G-d's calendar? That is the one that is in the bible. It is the one that G-d gave to Rabbi Moshe at Mt. Sinai. If you use G-d's calendar, it is much easier to know when the Appointed Times of G-d are. One Answer: Constatine changed this because he did not want anyone knowing when Yeshua would come. There are many who follow the teachings of Yeshua that are not christians. Jews can never be a christian even is he or she is a student of Yeshua. None of the disciples were christians, Jesus was not a christian nor was He the first christian, and none of the writers of the New Testament were christians. They were all Jews and maybe one proselyte, but even they are considered Jewish. Then what about what Rav Shaul wrote, Yacov? There is no Jew, Greek or other race in Yeshua. Your contention that none of the disciples were Christians is a straw man. If you believe that Yeshua died for your sins and rose from the dead, YOU ARE CHRISTIAN. You may be racially Jewish, but you are not a Jew in the religious sense, you're a Jewish Believer. Regardless of whether Constantine changed the calendar or not, we still will not know when Yeshua will come. We do know this however: Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yacov Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If you follow Christ, you are a Christian. 1) Which person called Jesus are you referring to? 2) Not according to Israeli Civil Law. 3) Not according to Halakhah or Jewish Law. 4) Yeshua, Kefa and Paul did not come to start a new religion. 5) In what way do you mean a christian? For example, someone who hates the Jewish people and the Nation of Israel like the Methodists, Presberterians, some baptists like Jimmy Carter, and all others associated with the National Council of Churches which has become the Code Word for Anti-Semite safe havens? 6) Or do you mean a true follower of Yeshua who is someone who loves the Jewish people and the Nation of Israel with all their heart, mind and strength because G-d and Rabbi Yeshua loves them with all their heart, mind and strength? 7) There are many definitions to the word "christian" and most are not to nice and it was not a nice thing in the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yacov Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear Kross, Why have Christians stopped using G-d's calendar? That is the one that is in the bible. It is the one that G-d gave to Rabbi Moshe at Mt. Sinai. If you use G-d's calendar, it is much easier to know when the Appointed Times of G-d are. One Answer: Constatine changed this because he did not want anyone knowing when Yeshua would come. There are many who follow the teachings of Yeshua that are not christians. Jews can never be a christian even is he or she is a student of Yeshua. None of the disciples were christians, Jesus was not a christian nor was He the first christian, and none of the writers of the New Testament were christians. They were all Jews and maybe one proselyte, but even they are considered Jewish. Then what about what Rav Shaul wrote, Yacov? There is no Jew, Greek or other race in Yeshua. Your contention that none of the disciples were Christians is a straw man. If you believe that Yeshua died for your sins and rose from the dead, YOU ARE CHRISTIAN. You may be racially Jewish, but you are not a Jew in the religious sense, you're a Jewish Believer. Regardless of whether Constantine changed the calendar or not, we still will not know when Yeshua will come. We do know this however: Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. I was born a Jew and I will die a Jew. Period. No straw for the disciples. They were born Jewish and they died Jewish. I am not the one who is making a straw here. Yes, I am an Ultra-Right Orthodox Jew. We do what day on the Jewish calendar Yeshua will come, if He is indeed The Messiah of Israel - a Jewish Messiah. Yeshua was born a Jew and died on the execution stake as an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi and Pharisee. When Yeshua stated "No man knows the day nor the hour," His disciples knew exactly what He meant. Yeshua boldly stated that He was coming on Rosh Hashannah - the Jewish New Year. Anyone who studies the biblical calendar would know that the Priests in the Temple has to know when the new moon came so that they would always be in the right seasons for the Appointed Times of ADONAI. The last day of the month and the first day of the new month - no one knew the day nor the hour. Also, there are signs in the heavens in 2014 and 2015 that states very clearly that The Messiah is preparing this world for His Coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted February 16, 2009 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,796 Content Per Day: 6.20 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 16, 2009 Also, there are signs in the heavens in 2014 and 2015 that states very clearly that The Messiah is preparing this world for His Coming. What would those be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehilah Ba'Aretz Posted February 16, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 263 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/09/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/02/1954 Share Posted February 16, 2009 It was correctly stated that this is a reference to the Common Era and Before the Common Era. They are used because Ano Domini is not accurate anyway. Since the term is not accurate, why should Jewish people and other scholars feel they need to give it honor. The Gregorian calendar was not formulated until the 11th century. It does not correctly identify dates that are Biblical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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