Healing Ministries?

[enoob57]

All are healed (that are His)!:

When and where is handled by the purpose of The Father, Son and Spirit. Do we not live in the Grace of our Lord? Paul's peace came in this way-

2 Cor 12:7-10

7 And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. 8 Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. 9 And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

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Do we not have the promises of God? Do we not know this trial

1 Peter 4:12-13

12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ's sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy

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1 Peter 1:7

7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ,

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I prepare everyday for the reality of sickness or suffering, being wronged, maimed, injured, impaired why because I know my Fathers trial of my faith will test me whether I cling to this physical housing and the world I am in (both temporary ) or to His promises. The strength afforded us is in the promises that is bound up in the faith we hold to Him who is faithful!

Rom 8:28-30

28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

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Do we pray and people become well, yet some do not? Do we beg God to spare us and He does, yet sometimes He does not? Do we lack faith- only if we ask for a sign from Him so as to believe for all His children will be perfectly whole in the eternal life (all healings will be done) maybe not in the time and place we feel it should be done! Therefore I am ready to give witness to the beauty of Him within me whether through pain, inabilities, rich, poor, until death this my vow to my Lord Christ, as also my request of Him, that through Him the strength to keep it for His glory. Just make sure my loved one's you prepare your hearts for His promises for they will be done for it is His will! Love Steven

[enoob57]

Yeahh I know this topic is two years old...I still would like to reply.

As i read all these replies tonight, I wondered, does anyone ever take the historical context of healing into acccount. If what was happening during the early days of the church were happening today...these so called healing ministries would be out of ...work. There would be no need for them as just like in Jerusalem when Peter and John walked down the street...people would be healed, only with their shadow passing over them. Interesting huh? Is this happening today? Nope. Do these so called ministers of healing go to a terminal cancer ward at a children's hospital and do some healing with their gift...nope. They ask for people to come to their "crusades." Or to their church. I've not seen one of these folks down under the bridge. Not one. They dare not as they would be revealed as...charlatans. A thought comes to mind about all this and it has to do with this verse in Hebrews 13, that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever. Do you really believe that this verse speaks of the things(miracles) He did while dwelling among the people? Do you? Will he be healing forever? Nope. As it's said in scripture...there will be no more tears. So where do we go with that verse. Well, to the obvious. Yes, Jesus Christ is the same, today, and forever...He is God. His character will never change. Earlier in Hebrews it is said that God worked in various ways with His people, could that mean that as healing was happening during Christ's ministry and also in the ministry of the Apostles, to show the "proof" that what He and the Apostles did was from God...could it just be that now we have faith in who God really is and the innerant Word of God to guide us...in that we don't need anymore proof? I'm of the belief that yes, God will perform a miracle, if it is for His purpose only. A person can pray and pray and pray but if it is not God's will...then perhaps pray for wisdom to know His will. His will for me is no mystery, I read about it everyday in my bible, the thing is, do I follow His directions or strike out on my own. I pray for consistency today, that I will follow His directions for my life. A question of obedience everyday.

I do hope that in any way I have not offended anyone with my comments. That is not my intention. Perhaps I could say that having been a part of these so called healing ministries, I've seen up close and personal the damage done to my brothers and sisters. I think this is a very sad part of Christianity, the deceptive practices of those who profess to know God's will in our lives. I wish, and pray, that they would look to Jesus. He has the answer.

God bless yall,

Goodnight,

Randal

ps. I'd like to add that it would be really nice if God took away my sinful nature(especially concerning what I deal with everyday)...but this is not going to happen. His grace, is sufficient for me.

It is well that you can go to bed with the wisdom of God! Love Steven

[Guest]

It is well that you can go to bed with the wisdom of God! Love Steven

Steven, as I never said that I go to bed with the wisdom of God, would you mind explaining what you mean by that statement?

[enoob57]

It is well that you can go to bed with the wisdom of God! Love Steven

Steven, as I never said that I go to bed with the wisdom of God, would you mind explaining what you mean by that statement?

Randal,

It was my comment to you for the this statement of yours referring to His Will "I read about it everyday in my bible, the thing is, do I follow His directions or strike out on my own". The person who knows the absorption or ingestion of God's Word into themselves is the way in which to determine The Will of God for all things has the wisdom of God in them. Oh! You do sleep? I assumed this part! Love Steven

[Guest]

It is well that you can go to bed with the wisdom of God! Love Steven

Steven, as I never said that I go to bed with the wisdom of God, would you mind explaining what you mean by that statement?

Randal,

It was my comment to you for the this statement of yours referring to His Will "I read about it everyday in my bible, the thing is, do I follow His directions or strike out on my own". The person who knows the absorption or ingestion of God's Word into themselves is the way in which to determine The Will of God for all things has the wisdom of God in them. Oh! You do sleep? I assumed this part! Love Steven

Steven, I am kind of at a loss for words...your reply leaves me puzzled. First, I never said that I know the will of God for all things. Are you assuming something about me? And once again...I'm going to ask what you meant by.."Oh! You do sleep? To me, that sounds very sarcastic...and I'm wondering, if that is true, why do you feel the need to say that? Why do you say it anyway? What's the point? I want to add that if you have a problem with me sharing what I believe...then just let me know and we can avoid all this other, ok? Is that fair Steven?

If I have broken a rule of the terms of service by what I've said, let me know. That is for the moderators. Just let me know.

[enoob57]

It is well that you can go to bed with the wisdom of God! Love Steven

Steven, as I never said that I go to bed with the wisdom of God, would you mind explaining what you mean by that statement?

Randal,

It was my comment to you for the this statement of yours referring to His Will "I read about it everyday in my bible, the thing is, do I follow His directions or strike out on my own". The person who knows the absorption or ingestion of God's Word into themselves is the way in which to determine The Will of God for all things has the wisdom of God in them. Oh! You do sleep? I assumed this part! Love Steven

Steven, I am kind of at a loss for words...your reply leaves me puzzled. First, I never said that I know the will of God for all things. Are you assuming something about me? And once again...I'm going to ask what you meant by.."Oh! You do sleep? To me, that sounds very sarcastic...and I'm wondering, if that is true, why do you feel the need to say that? Why do you say it anyway? What's the point? I want to add that if you have a problem with me sharing what I believe...then just let me know and we can avoid all this other, ok? Is that fair Steven?

If I have broken a rule of the terms of service by what I've said, let me know. That is for the moderators. Just let me know.

I Love the Lord an never wish to be negative! It was a statement of wisdom I saw in your post and that wisdom will lead you in the will of the Lord. So back to the orignal statement read only the words themselves no hidden meanings no sarcasim. I simply affirmed in my own heart what you said and saw it to be wisdom which will lead you into God's will. I post sometimes just to show appreciation for others insights. The

Oh! You do sleep? I assumed this part!

was attempted humor on my part for if you did not sleep then my statement would have not have been true on the going to bed part! I take no offense on you wanting to understand what I said! I hope you have taken none from me.

[Guest]

It is well that you can go to bed with the wisdom of God! Love Steven

Steven, as I never said that I go to bed with the wisdom of God, would you mind explaining what you mean by that statement?

Randal,

It was my comment to you for the this statement of yours referring to His Will "I read about it everyday in my bible, the thing is, do I follow His directions or strike out on my own". The person who knows the absorption or ingestion of God's Word into themselves is the way in which to determine The Will of God for all things has the wisdom of God in them. Oh! You do sleep? I assumed this part! Love Steven

Steven, I am kind of at a loss for words...your reply leaves me puzzled. First, I never said that I know the will of God for all things. Are you assuming something about me? And once again...I'm going to ask what you meant by.."Oh! You do sleep? To me, that sounds very sarcastic...and I'm wondering, if that is true, why do you feel the need to say that? Why do you say it anyway? What's the point? I want to add that if you have a problem with me sharing what I believe...then just let me know and we can avoid all this other, ok? Is that fair Steven?

If I have broken a rule of the terms of service by what I've said, let me know. That is for the moderators. Just let me know.

I Love the Lord an never wish to be negative! It was a statement of wisdom I saw in your post and that wisdom will lead you in the will of the Lord. So back to the orignal statement read only the words themselves no hidden meanings no sarcasim. I simply affirmed in my own heart what you said and saw it to be wisdom which will lead you into God's will. I post sometimes just to show appreciation for others insights. The

Oh! You do sleep? I assumed this part!

was attempted humor on my part for if you did not sleep then my statement would have not have been true on the going to bed part! I take no offense on you wanting to understand what I said! I hope you have taken none from me.

Steven,

None taken. It was I who reacted a bit too much to what you said. I know there is a weakness in my communicatiing with others, that gets the best of me at times. I'm sorry that you had to be on the receiving end, you did not deserve that. Thank you for your reply this evening.

Randal

[enoob57]

You are family, now you are friend for you will not think of me as one who would belittle or degrade you!

I look forward to our journey to God! Love Steven

[hr.jr.]

And is it for lack of faith the rest of us don't lay hands on people and have their illness healed? And can we heal ourselves if need be?? I have glasses so could I heal my eye sight? Truly, if I can do that to myself then I will believe and go off healing others.

Sorry to be a Doubting Thomas as they say.. I'm just curious why Mark 16:17-18 is not widely manifested around the world.

"and ye shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover." The Word of God is either true or it is not. "For we walk by faith and not by sight."

I believe the Word of God to be true.

[hr.jr.]

Healing is alive and well. And as Nebula pointed out, it's a common occurance in other countries where belief in the spiritual has not been trodden down to be almost absolete.

IMO there would be more healings here if our society weren't so distrustful and faithless as we have become.

Christ died for our physical and spiritual healing, but even christians doubt that God is still the same today, and that's plain sad.

But when even christians want to see proof of this or that it shows our lack of faith. Instead of knowing that our God can do anything,we want proof!

We believe in Jesus Christ and salvation by faith, but when it comes to anything else that God has said He does for us we fall back on the worlds theology seeing is believing.

I love the line from a movie a saw once "Seeing isn't believing, believing is seeing"

I believed The Word of God about healing before I saw healing. Too many want to see healing before they will believe The Word of God. I believed The Word of God about healing long before I was healed.