Historical Evidence for the ressurection

[CSLewis]

The best defense against insanity is that all the disciples believed they saw, experienced and live the same things with Jesus. There is no contention among the original disciples as to what happened or how it happened, if they were hallucinating and insane we would see alot more personal ideas being given in the texts.

Ok so I was talking with a guy at work about this and he contends that the disciples conjured up the story of the resurrection because they risked everything on this rabbi being the messiah and where famous now ? What were they before fishermen- nobodies and now they were Gods chosen- even though certain death followed they would rather have the fame, honor and throngs of people listening to them than going back to the families they left head hung in shame.

[MorningGlory]

The best defense against insanity is that all the disciples believed they saw, experienced and live the same things with Jesus. There is no contention among the original disciples as to what happened or how it happened, if they were hallucinating and insane we would see alot more personal ideas being given in the texts.

Ok so I was talking with a guy at work about this and he contends that the disciples conjured up the story of the resurrection because they risked everything on this rabbi being the messiah and where famous now ? What were they before fishermen- nobodies and now they were Gods chosen- even though certain death followed they would rather have the fame, honor and throngs of people listening to them than going back to the families they left head hung in shame.

Your buddy is either terribly deluded or just plain stupid.

[JIME]

I have NO DOUBT that Jesus died and was Resurrected!!! I believe emphatically!!!

[spiritman]

The best defense against insanity is that all the disciples believed they saw, experienced and live the same things with Jesus. There is no contention among the original disciples as to what happened or how it happened, if they were hallucinating and insane we would see alot more personal ideas being given in the texts.

Ok so I was talking with a guy at work about this and he contends that the disciples conjured up the story of the resurrection because they risked everything on this rabbi being the messiah and where famous now ? What were they before fishermen- nobodies and now they were Gods chosen- even though certain death followed they would rather have the fame, honor and throngs of people listening to them than going back to the families they left head hung in shame.

I'm sure that out of 500 witnesses, that someone would have chickened out if it were a lie

[Rick-Parker]

The best defense against insanity is that all the disciples believed they saw, experienced and live the same things with Jesus. There is no contention among the original disciples as to what happened or how it happened, if they were hallucinating and insane we would see alot more personal ideas being given in the texts.

Ok so I was talking with a guy at work about this and he contends that the disciples conjured up the story of the resurrection because they risked everything on this rabbi being the messiah and where famous now ? What were they before fishermen- nobodies and now they were Gods chosen- even though certain death followed they would rather have the fame, honor and throngs of people listening to them than going back to the families they left head hung in shame.

And how did you reply?

[MorningGlory]

I have NO DOUBT that Jesus died and was Resurrected!!! I believe emphatically!!!

[Sir Gareth]

The best defense against insanity is that all the disciples believed they saw, experienced and live the same things with Jesus. There is no contention among the original disciples as to what happened or how it happened, if they were hallucinating and insane we would see alot more personal ideas being given in the texts.

Ok so I was talking with a guy at work about this and he contends that the disciples conjured up the story of the resurrection because they risked everything on this rabbi being the messiah and where famous now ? What were they before fishermen- nobodies and now they were Gods chosen- even though certain death followed they would rather have the fame, honor and throngs of people listening to them than going back to the families they left head hung in shame.

At the very best this only explains the profession of the apostles, and not very well. Do you think Brad Pitt would keep acting in movies if he was sure he would be killed the next time he acted?

It fails to take into account the other evidence of the empty tomb, the conversion of Paul and James and it really doesn't make sense that out of 500 + people there wasn't one honest person who said 'hey this sin't true, they made it up.'

[Sir Gareth]

I do not mean to sound smug or arrogant, but I do notice the usual suspects aren't coming in here to attack my claims yet.

I eargerly await a chance to defend my position against the best arguments you can muster.

Thank you and God Bless.

[humbleseeker]

I think even in are modern eara 2000 years after the fact the hearts of men and women know with just little evidence that Jesus Christ rose again, and will one day come again. That is people who have been exposed to the Gospel. What hold people back is there lack of Faith. The knowlege is there and is accepted but the actions taken by men are iether to live for Christ or live for themselves. How can we make some one believe, and take serious attention to our real knowledge and relationship with Christ? My answer is that we cant. We can be the messenger as we are called to do. I doubt thow that there is nothing you can say or miricle you can perfom that will change a mans heart to come to the Lord, unless the Lord allows it. As God chose the Apostles, and the others who followed them, as he chose you and me. He is still calling. To whom the chosen. We can plant the seed the Holy Spirit does the real work. Then any physical evidence is not needed because Faith becomes our evidence, of what we can not see.

[CSLewis]

The best defense against insanity is that all the disciples believed they saw, experienced and live the same things with Jesus. There is no contention among the original disciples as to what happened or how it happened, if they were hallucinating and insane we would see alot more personal ideas being given in the texts.

Ok so I was talking with a guy at work about this and he contends that the disciples conjured up the story of the resurrection because they risked everything on this rabbi being the messiah and where famous now ? What were they before fishermen- nobodies and now they were Gods chosen- even though certain death followed they would rather have the fame, honor and throngs of people listening to them than going back to the families they left head hung in shame.

And how did you reply?

I said that he had a good point and I never thought of that but why not go all the way? Why not claim to be the real messiah?

Now he said that Jesus had an identical twin brother (according to the gnostic gospel of Thomas) and this twin brother was dressed like Jesus and the body in the tomb was taken up and was an elaborate prank by Jesus' closest followers.