Questions for people who say Christians can't accept evolution

[Guest shiloh357]

Now does man come from an ape, probably not. However that doesn't mean that we didn't evolve from something. The bible says that God created man in his own image, it doesn't say how he did it. There could have been a process and from God's point of view, the process didn't matter because man was the finally conclussion of the very thing he was trying to create.

The fact that man created God separate from all other life forms and created man in His image, precludes man evolving from some other life form, much sharing a common ancestor from another life form. The Bible says that man was created from the dust of the earth. The text indicates that man was created directly from the dust. It does not say that created an organism from dust that later evolved into God's image/likeness. The text is unambiguous on that point.

So, God created man of of silicates?

(dust of the earth ... clay ... both silicates).

Yeah. He's God. He can do that.

So, you are created from silicates?

The Bible says that man is created from the dust/dirt of the earth. It means what it means.

[ConScience]

So, God created man of of silicates?

(dust of the earth ... clay ... both silicates).

Yeah. He's God. He can do that.

So, you are created from silicates?

The Bible says that man is created from the dust/dirt of the earth. It means what it means.

It means what it means. Wow. deep stuff.

Are you just going to spout truisms, or man up and say what you believe?

Do you believe you are made of silicates or not?

Simple question, requiring a simple "I do" or "I do not".

I'm trying to understand what you believe. You're ALMOST there in telling me.

One more sentence, Shiloh!

Go on, you can DO it!

[Guest shiloh357]

So, God created man of of silicates?

(dust of the earth ... clay ... both silicates).

Yeah. He's God. He can do that.

So, you are created from silicates?

The Bible says that man is created from the dust/dirt of the earth. It means what it means.

It means what it means. Wow. deep stuff.

Are you just going to spout truisms, or man up and say what you believe?

Do you believe you are made of silicates or not?

Simple question, requiring a simple "I do" or "I do not".

I'm trying to understand what you believe. You're ALMOST there in telling me.

One more sentence, Shiloh!

Go on, you can DO it!

There is nothing deep about it. God created man from the dust of the earth. I believe the Bible. If you call dust/clay silicates, then I have answered your question.

Edited to add: You still have not explained howbelieving that man is created from the dust of earth means that one must reject the Copernicus theory.

[ConScience]

So, God created man of of silicates?

(dust of the earth ... clay ... both silicates).

Yeah. He's God. He can do that.

So, you are created from silicates?

The Bible says that man is created from the dust/dirt of the earth. It means what it means.

It means what it means. Wow. deep stuff.

Are you just going to spout truisms, or man up and say what you believe?

Do you believe you are made of silicates or not?

Simple question, requiring a simple "I do" or "I do not".

I'm trying to understand what you believe. You're ALMOST there in telling me.

One more sentence, Shiloh!

Go on, you can DO it!

There is nothing deep about it. God created man from the dust of the earth. I believe the Bible. If you call dust/clay silicates, then I have answered your question.

Edited to add: You still have not explained howbelieving that man is created from the dust of earth means that one must reject the Copernicus theory.

The two (Copernicus' Theory / man from clay) are not at all related. I assume an intelligent person would have realized that (to paraphrase you).

And you can make it about me if you like ("If you call dust/clay silicates, then I have answered your question"), but this is about YOU (enjoy it!).

You believe that man (including you) are made from silicates. That's cool. "Yeah, God can do it".

Edited October 26, 2009 by ConScience

[Guest shiloh357]

The two (Copernicus' Theory / man from clay) are not at all related. I assume an intelligent person would have realized that (to paraphrase you).

I know they are not related, which is the basis of my question. YOU were the one who made the leap in logic between the two. Seeing that they are unrelated my question was why believing in man's creation per the Biblical record, necessitates the rejection of Copernicus' theory. You still have not provided any rational reason why YOU linked them together like you did.

And you can make it about me if you like ("If you call dust/clay silicates, then I have answered your question"), but this is about YOU (enjoy it!).

I didn't make it about you. I made it about the truth. The Bible says that man created man from the dust of the earth (negating any possible means of evolution and the Bible coming to a point of agreement). I stated I believe the Bible.

[ConScience]

The two (Copernicus' Theory / man from clay) are not at all related. I assume an intelligent person would have realized that (to paraphrase you).

I know they are not related, which is the basis of my question. YOU were the one who made the leap in logic between the two. Seeing that they are unrelated my question was why believing in man's creation per the Biblical record, necessitates the rejection of Copernicus' theory. You still have not provided any rational reason why YOU linked them together like you did.

And you can make it about me if you like ("If you call dust/clay silicates, then I have answered your question"), but this is about YOU (enjoy it!).

I didn't make it about you. I made it about the truth. The Bible says that man created man from the dust of the earth (negating any possible means of evolution and the Bible coming to a point of agreement). I stated I believe the Bible.

If I made the link, it was totally unconscious. My apologies.

Logically, they are linked because the bible is a story and not reality.

You believe in the bible that tells you that you were created from clay, which is mainly silicates. THis is totally irrational, and so we have no possibility of communication rationally any longer.

Thank you, Shiloh, and goodnight.

[ConScience]

Well, I finally see the light.

I came to the forum to learn, and it is clear that several posters (Shiloh, HorizonEast among them) have no interest in sharing what they believe in - and they are not interested in hearing other opinions, so I guess that's about all from me.

Add to that the fact that I can no longer take part in polls or send/receive PMs (sorry, SpiritMan, the link you sent me was lost with my PM privileges), I'm going to prove my Mum wrong when she said "an educated person doesn't take a hint".

Nice getting to know some of you a little.

Peace,

Nick

[Guest shiloh357]

You believe in the bible that tells you that you were created from clay, which is mainly silicates. THis is totally irrational, and so we have no possibility of communication rationally any longer.

Yet, in the past, we have seen what was considered impossible by "science" become reality. Why is it irrational? 'Cause it comes from the Bible? It only confirms what I have been saying. Belief in the Bible is irrational according to you, which speaks to the intelligence of those who believe the Bible. Intelligent people are not irrationa, ergo, belief in the Bible would demonstrate as less than intelligent person.

Logically, they are linked because the bible is a story and not reality.

Logically??? They are linked because the Bible is a "story?" How does regarding the Bible as just a story, link them, logically if they are not related in the first place?? YOu need to work on your concept of "logic."

[Guest shiloh357]

I came to the forum to learn, and it is clear that several posters (Shiloh, HorizonEast among them) have no interest in sharing what they believe in

I shared what I believed and so did HE. You simply brush it off as irrational, "unicornish" naivete. You came here initially to share links and to prove evolution true, according to your initial engagement on the boards.

and they are not interested in hearing other opinions, so I guess that's about all from me.

In other words, we simply stood by our convictions and were not as simplistic and naive as you previously assumed and our faith didn't crumble the way it was supposed to. We get that from atheists all the time.

[MorningGlory]

I came to the forum to learn, and it is clear that several posters (Shiloh, HorizonEast among them) have no interest in sharing what they believe in

I shared what I believed and so did HE. You simply brush it off as irrational, "unicornish" naivete. You came here initially to share links and to prove evolution true, according to your initial engagement on the boards.

and they are not interested in hearing other opinions, so I guess that's about all from me.

In other words, we simply stood by our convictions and were not as simplistic and naive as you previously assumed and our faith didn't crumble the way it was supposed to. We get that from atheists all the time.

I'm sure this won't be the last time .......