14 reasons not to believe in Macro-Evolution

[MorningGlory]

So you still have to convince me that we have an old earth without using Radiometric dating.

Score Evolutionists 1

Creationists 13

Spreading rates of the Atlantic Seafloor (paleomagnetism confirms movement for millions of years)

Thick layers of Ooze

Thick formations made of clay without lamination because of bioturbation

Coral reefs

Best regards

What are these proof OF? I can observe the same things on my company's lunch room floor.

[MorningGlory]

And of course you will find "data" like this on a creationist website... it is so baised towards reality, I just have to laugh.

Yes, I'm glad to see you can tell the truth (unusual in an atheist). The data for Creation IS biased toward reality....and the reality is God. Why laugh though? It kinda makes you atheists look out of date and silly.

[Fez]

So you still have to convince me that we have an old earth without using Radiometric dating.

Score Evolutionists 1

Creationists 13

Spreading rates of the Atlantic Seafloor (paleomagnetism confirms movement for millions of years)

Thick layers of Ooze

Thick formations made of clay without lamination because of bioturbation

Coral reefs

Best regards

What are these proof OF? I can observe the same things on my company's lunch room floor.

I was about to say in the bottom of my fish pond, but your example is much better!

ummm.....And I wrote the management plan for our 300km long marine protected area, consisting of more species than the Great Barrier Reef, both of hard and soft corals, and have over 600 hours of diving research time on them. What is your point about coral reefs, and would you like to educate us? Do you know what an amonite is?

Where I Live and Work

See the link to my playground! Is God not awesome in His creation!

[BornAtheist]

So you still have to convince me that we have an old earth without using Radiometric dating.

Score Evolutionists 1

Creationists 13

Spreading rates of the Atlantic Seafloor (paleomagnetism confirms movement for millions of years)

Thick layers of Ooze

Thick formations made of clay without lamination because of bioturbation

Coral reefs

Best regards

What are these proof OF? I can observe the same things on my company's lunch room floor.

You will never know because you don't want to know.

To those of you who want to know:

You can meassure the spreading rate of the Atlantic. The orientation of the earths magnetic field is preserved in the magnetic minerals in magma. The variation in the orientation of the magnetic minerals and the spreading rate is telling us the seafloor has been constantly moving for millions of years.

Ooze is a sediment originating from plankton, and the sedimentation rates of such is just a few centimeters per thousend years. Layers several hundred meters thick are known.

Clay has a slow sedimentation rate aswell. Thick layers of clay having lost any signs of lamination is evidence of the clay being sedimented at a low pace giving bentic fauna time to mix the sediments.

Corals are growing at a slow rate (less than 1 cm/year) and coral reefs several hundred meters thick are known.

[Fez]

So you still have to convince me that we have an old earth without using Radiometric dating.

Score Evolutionists 1

Creationists 13

Spreading rates of the Atlantic Seafloor (paleomagnetism confirms movement for millions of years)

Thick layers of Ooze

Thick formations made of clay without lamination because of bioturbation

Coral reefs

Best regards

What are these proof OF? I can observe the same things on my company's lunch room floor.

You will never know because you don't want to know.

To those of you who want to know:

You can meassure the spreading rate of the Atlantic. The orientation of the earths magnetic field is preserved in the magnetic minerals in magma. The variation in the orientation of the magnetic minerals and the spreading rate is telling us the seafloor has been constantly moving for millions of years.

Ooze is a sediment originating from plankton, and the sedimentation rates of such is just a few centimeters per thousend years. Layers several hundred meters thick are known.

Clay has a slow sedimentation rate aswell. Thick layers of clay having lost any signs of lamination is evidence of the clay being sedimented at a low pace giving bentic fauna time to mix the sediments.

Corals are growing at a slow rate (less than 1 cm/year) and coral reefs several hundred meters thick are known.

Must be different to the corals I have worked on for years then! Can you please give us an example of several hundred meter thick coral reefs please?

And Magma is molten rock, it moves constantly, don't you mean cooled, solidified magma? The stuff we call lava rock?

[MorningGlory]

So you still have to convince me that we have an old earth without using Radiometric dating.

Score Evolutionists 1

Creationists 13

Spreading rates of the Atlantic Seafloor (paleomagnetism confirms movement for millions of years)

Thick layers of Ooze

Thick formations made of clay without lamination because of bioturbation

Coral reefs

Best regards

What are these proof OF? I can observe the same things on my company's lunch room floor.

You will never know because you don't want to know.

I prefer information from scientists, not Wikipedia. Thanks anyway.

[spiritman]

There is no proof for Macro evolution. If you have taken the time to read this entire post, you would have seen that the 4 or 5 Atheists that have showed what they claimed as evidence, could not come up with any verifiable proof. However you are welcome to try and convince us. So tell me how can you look at the mechanical way the earth system works and be convinced it is an accident? How can the DNA that has the information in it to build an entire person or animal be an accident?

Well firstly, it was a very slim probablility but it was bound to happen being that the universe is unarguably huge. 2nd, I will not label the human ignorance of information as a god. Science has done a great job of digging answers out of the earth and universe alike. Earth had the right conditions for life-forms to thrive, mostly just bacteria at the time. Some kind of evolution must have happened at somepoint, I will not accept the magical answer.

Macro-Evolution which is one species transforming into another does not happen nor is there proof that it does. Micro-evolution we see happening all around us. such as for example changes brought on by hereditary traits, environment etc etc.

[spiritman]

Now tell me: Can you provide evidence from science that the compounded effects of "Micro-Evolution" doesn't lead to "Macro-Evolution?

Sure, Transitional forms, there are no air tight transitonal forms. Therefore no scientific proof for Macro-evolution.

[spiritman]

Because true science verily contradicts the "answers" of religion, theists have to go out and find someway to make it fit into their religion. Ever just think that your god had nothing to do with the universe? Openmindedness is needed to proceed. Science works from data to the answer, whereas religion has thier books written by very ignorant and superticious people thousands of years ago giving them the "answers" and you find data in the universe to support its "answer." The only way science can progress is to ignore god for a moment and find some sense and logic.

People used to believe gods were responsible for illness, rain, thunder, sunlight, etc. However, on every occasion, gods have been pushed from those voids of knowledge. And of course you will find "data" like this on a creationist website... it is so baised towards reality, I just have to laugh.

One problem with the science that theists perform is; there is no way they can prove their theories, because in order to do so, they would have to incorperate Historical science. There was no one from the scientific community in the past to confirm whether the conclusions science comes up with is constant. However Christians have the God of the Bible, Who was present at the time of the begining and left us His notes, The Bible. Most Scientists have to eventually change their theories because most of them are evenutally proven wrong. Why do you place your faith in such an unstable system? How ever in contrast the Bible has never been proven wrong.

[spiritman]

The drilling data indicate that the atoll is a thick cap of limestone resting on the summit of a volcano that rises 2 miles above the floor of the ocean.

Drilling on Eniwetok Atoll, Marshall Islands

And this proves evolution how?