KINGDOM OF MESSIAH

[Guest shiloh357]

But it is your straw-man. I have spoken the truth I don

[Guest shiloh357]

Hosea 2:14-23 14 "Therefore I am now going to allure her; I will lead her into the desert and speak tenderly to her. 15 There I will give her back her vineyards, and will make the Valley of Achor a door of hope. There she will sing as in the days of her youth, as in the day she came up out of Egypt. 16 "In that day," declares the LORD, "you will call me 'my husband'; you will no longer call me 'my master.' 17 I will remove the names of the Baals from her lips; no longer will their names be invoked. 18 In that day I will make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and the birds of the air and the creatures that move along the ground. Bow and sword and battle I will abolish from the land, so that all may lie down in safety. 19 I will betroth you to me forever; I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion. 20 I will betroth you in faithfulness, and you will acknowledge the LORD. 21 "In that day I will respond," declares the LORD-- "I will respond to the skies, and they will respond to the earth; 22 and the earth will respond to the grain, the new wine and oil, and they will respond to Jezreel. 23 I will plant her for myself in the land; I will show my love to the one I called 'Not my loved one. 'I will say to those called 'Not my people, ''You are my people'; and they will say, 'You are my God.'"

Pretty simple stuff.

Here's another one:

In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt. And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit [them]; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God. (Amos 9:11-15)

The current nation of Israel will never be uprooted again. God is finally and fully restoring Israel to her land in preparation for the coming of her Messiah.

[lekh l'kha]

Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished. (Jer 46:28)

For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. (Joe 3:1-2)

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. (Zec 12:9)

Yep, when God had made an end of using Babylon to punish Israel, He destroyed Babylon; and when He has made an end of using the nations to punish Israel, He will destroy the nations.

You wanna be in the ark (in Christ) so you can be lifted out of the world when that day arrives.

[Guest shiloh357]

It really is amazing when you study Bible prophecy just how modern Israel has fulfilled many of some of the most obscure prophecies right down to the minutest details.

For example. Jeremiah predicted exactly which parts of the land the returning Jews would purchase when God began restoring them to the land. The land the Jews purchased in the latter part of the 19th and early part of the 20th century from absentee Turkish landowners matches the description given by Jeremiah.

Keep in mind that the Jews who were part of re-establishing Israel were not believers, many were agnostic or atheists. They did not read the Bible to determine which parts to purchase. They bought what was available and what the Turkish landowners were willing to sell. The Jews had no control over what land they would settle on in that regard. This is also true of the Jews who returned after the Holocaust as well. Most of them had no idea that God was using them to fulfill His promises about Israel.

This is found in Jeremiah 32:44:

Men shall buy fields for money, and subscribe evidences, and seal them, and take witnesses in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, and in the cities of the mountains, and in the cities of the valley, and in the cities of the south: for I will cause their captivity to return, saith the LORD. (Jer. 32:44)

This matches the land purchased by the Jews from the Turks. At that time those areas were not inhabited because they were mostly swamp and desert.

[lekh l'kha]

It really is amazing when you study Bible prophecy just how modern Israel has fulfilled many of some of the most obscure prophecies right down to the minutest details.

For example. Jeremiah predicted exactly which parts of the land the returning Jews would purchase when God began restoring them to the land. The land the Jews purchased in the latter part of the 19th and early part of the 20th century from absentee Turkish landowners matches the description given by Jeremiah.

Keep in mind that the Jews who were part of re-establishing Israel were not believers, many were agnostic or atheists. They did not read the Bible to determine which parts to purchase. They bought what was available and what the Turkish landowners were willing to sell. The Jews had no control over what land they would settle on in that regard. This is also true of the Jews who returned after the Holocaust as well. Most of them had no idea that God was using them to fulfill His promises about Israel.

This is found in Jeremiah 32:44:

Men shall buy fields for money, and subscribe evidences, and seal them, and take witnesses in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, and in the cities of the mountains, and in the cities of the valley, and in the cities of the south: for I will cause their captivity to return, saith the LORD. (Jer. 32:44)

This matches the land purchased by the Jews from the Turks. At that time those areas were not inhabited because they were mostly swamp and desert.

That's very interesting. Thanks for those facts, shiloh357. The world doesn't recognize the hand of God in the establishment of modern Israel. Neither do many, many Christians. As a result, like the rest of humanity they cannot recognize the signs of the times. The church across the road from me is replacement theologist and tells (teaches) its members not to look for signs because "we don't know the day or the hour of His return". Of course, to them Israel is just an accident of modern history.

[lekh l'kha]

The Bible NEVER includes Gentiles in the term "Israel."

Sure it does

[lekh l'kha]

It was specifically "the Jews" who cried out on that day and certainly we are all responsible for His death for we have all sinned and have fallen short. And your point is

[RebekahDavid]

Blessings,

its pretty clear Biblically who Israel is even in the New Testament:

Revelation 7

1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

5Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

6Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.

7Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.

8Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Is there a difference Biblically in what they can do and others who are saved can not ? yes:

Revelation 14

1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

love your sister in Christ,

Rebekah David

Hosea 2:14-23 14 "Therefore I am now going to allure her; I will lead her into the desert and speak tenderly to her. 15 There I will give her back her vineyards, and will make the Valley of Achor a door of hope. There she will sing as in the days of her youth, as in the day she came up out of Egypt. 16 "In that day," declares the LORD, "you will call me 'my husband'; you will no longer call me 'my master.' 17 I will remove the names of the Baals from her lips; no longer will their names be invoked. 18 In that day I will make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and the birds of the air and the creatures that move along the ground. Bow and sword and battle I will abolish from the land, so that all may lie down in safety. 19 I will betroth you to me forever; I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion. 20 I will betroth you in faithfulness, and you will acknowledge the LORD. 21 "In that day I will respond," declares the LORD-- "I will respond to the skies, and they will respond to the earth; 22 and the earth will respond to the grain, the new wine and oil, and they will respond to Jezreel. 23 I will plant her for myself in the land; I will show my love to the one I called 'Not my loved one. 'I will say to those called 'Not my people, ''You are my people'; and they will say, 'You are my God.'"

Pretty simple stuff.

Hosea 2:14-23 14 "Therefore I am now going to allure her; I will lead her into the desert and speak tenderly to her. 15 There I will give her back her vineyards, and will make the Valley of Achor a door of hope. There she will sing as in the days of her youth, as in the day she came up out of Egypt. 16 "In that day," declares the LORD, "you will call me 'my husband'; you will no longer call me 'my master.' 17 I will remove the names of the Baals from her lips; no longer will their names be invoked. 18 In that day I will make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and the birds of the air and the creatures that move along the ground. Bow and sword and battle I will abolish from the land, so that all may lie down in safety. 19 I will betroth you to me forever; I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion. 20 I will betroth you in faithfulness, and you will acknowledge the LORD. 21 "In that day I will respond," declares the LORD-- "I will respond to the skies, and they will respond to the earth; 22 and the earth will respond to the grain, the new wine and oil, and they will respond to Jezreel. 23 I will plant her for myself in the land; I will show my love to the one I called 'Not my loved one. 'I will say to those called 'Not my people, ''You are my people'; and they will say, 'You are my God.'"

Pretty simple stuff.

Here's another one:

In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt. And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit [them]; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God. (Amos 9:11-15)

The current nation of Israel will never be uprooted again. God is finally and fully restoring Israel to her land in preparation for the coming of her Messiah.

Yet another one. . .

Jeremiah 31:31 - 40 31 "The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. 33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more." 35 This is what the LORD says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar-- the LORD Almighty is his name: 36 "Only if these decrees vanish from my sight," declares the LORD, "will the descendants of Israel ever cease to be a nation before me." 37 This is what the LORD says: "Only if the heavens above can be measured and the foundations of the earth below be searched out will I reject all the descendants of Israel because of all they have done," declares the LORD. 38 "The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when this city will be rebuilt for me from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate. 39 The measuring line will stretch from there straight to the hill of Gareb and then turn to Goah. 40 The whole valley where dead bodies and ashes are thrown, and all the terraces out to the Kidron Valley on the east as far as the corner of the Horse Gate, will be holy to the LORD. The city will never again be uprooted or demolished."

I guess "The city will never again be uprooted or demolished" is pretty hard to understand. . .

It really is amazing when you study Bible prophecy just how modern Israel has fulfilled many of some of the most obscure prophecies right down to the minutest details.

For example. Jeremiah predicted exactly which parts of the land the returning Jews would purchase when God began restoring them to the land. The land the Jews purchased in the latter part of the 19th and early part of the 20th century from absentee Turkish landowners matches the description given by Jeremiah.

Keep in mind that the Jews who were part of re-establishing Israel were not believers, many were agnostic or atheists. They did not read the Bible to determine which parts to purchase. They bought what was available and what the Turkish landowners were willing to sell. The Jews had no control over what land they would settle on in that regard. This is also true of the Jews who returned after the Holocaust as well. Most of them had no idea that God was using them to fulfill His promises about Israel.

This is found in Jeremiah 32:44:

Men shall buy fields for money, and subscribe evidences, and seal them, and take witnesses in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, and in the cities of the mountains, and in the cities of the valley, and in the cities of the south: for I will cause their captivity to return, saith the LORD. (Jer. 32:44)

This matches the land purchased by the Jews from the Turks. At that time those areas were not inhabited because they were mostly swamp and desert.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Folks, please refrain from the personal attacks.

Peace,

Dave

[Guest shiloh357]

The Bible NEVER includes Gentiles in the term "Israel."

Sure it does