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"Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?" Hebrews 1:14

Angels can take on the appearance of a human body, but, as the Scripture says above, they are spirits.

the ball is in your court to prove that angels are also called demons. or to prove that fallen angels are called demons.

Ummmm, I was simply proving that Angels are spirits.

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Eric Burden and the Animals had soul :th_praying:

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Brilliant!


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I believe Satan was created for the purpose of being just what his name implies: The Adversary. Evil was a mere principle until Satan tapped into it. God created the principle of evil because Scripture clearly states that all things were created by God

Evil isn't a "thing" it's simply the absence of good. And by your reasoning, Satan cannot be blamed for His rebellion against God, because God created Him to rebel. How can Satan be at fault for anything if God created him for that purpose?

By that same stripe, we can say every person in hell was created for the purpose of going to hell.


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I believe Satan was created for the purpose of being just what his name implies: The Adversary. Evil was a mere principle until Satan tapped into it. God created the principle of evil because Scripture clearly states that all things were created by God

Evil isn't a "thing" it's simply the absence of good. And by your reasoning, Satan cannot be blamed for His rebellion against God, because God created Him to rebel. How can Satan be at fault for anything if God created him for that purpose?

By that same stripe, we can say every person in hell was created for the purpose of going to hell.

It gets a little difficult to wrap your brain around sometimes, but God did indeed create all things, the waster to destroy, and Jesus also chose twelve, saying that one was a devil, but it was necessary for the scriptures to be fulfilled. That the devil was perfect until sin was found in him, the scriptures clearly state, and frankly, there was nothing wrong with Adam and Eve until they disobeyed what God had said. That God knows all things from the beginning to the end there is no dispute, but to blame God for the choices that He knew others He created would make is to miss the graciousness of God in giving free will to both the faithful and obedient and to the disobedient and evil.

God cannot be charged with a fault. All that He does is perfect and right, even if we don't like it.


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Do animals have souls? Will our pets be with us in heaven?

What do you guys think?

The "soul" and "spirit" are connected, BUT separable (Hebrews 4:12) The "soul" is basically the essence of humanity's being, it is who we are. I think of it as the "soul"= life

The "spirit" is the aspect of humanity that connects with G-d. Further more only believers are said to be " spiritually alive "

We know that animals do NOT posses spirits (unless demonic, but thats another subject) therefore I do not believe they go to heaven.

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Certainly some animals are in heaven, horses are.


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I believe Satan was created for the purpose of being just what his name implies: The Adversary. Evil was a mere principle until Satan tapped into it. God created the principle of evil because Scripture clearly states that all things were created by God

Evil isn't a "thing" it's simply the absence of good. And by your reasoning, Satan cannot be blamed for His rebellion against God, because God created Him to rebel. How can Satan be at fault for anything if God created him for that purpose?

By that same stripe, we can say every person in hell was created for the purpose of going to hell.

It gets a little difficult to wrap your brain around sometimes, but God did indeed create all things, the waster to destroy, and Jesus also chose twelve, saying that one was a devil, but it was necessary for the scriptures to be fulfilled. That the devil was perfect until sin was found in him, the scriptures clearly state, and frankly, there was nothing wrong with Adam and Eve until they disobeyed what God had said. That God knows all things from the beginning to the end there is no dispute, but to blame God for the choices that He knew others He created would make is to miss the graciousness of God in giving free will to both the faithful and obedient and to the disobedient and evil.

God cannot be charged with a fault. All that He does is perfect and right, even if we don't like it.

What I am disputing is the notion that God created Satan for the purpose of sinning, not the fact that God knew he would sin.

And again, if what you are claiming is to be believed, how can Satan be blamed for fulfilling the purpose i.e., "rebelling" "sinning," for which he was created?

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Certainly some animals are in heaven, horses are.

at least one white one is.


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Certainly some animals are in heaven, horses are.

at least one white one is.

The whole white horse thing in Revelation is a metaphor for a conquering general. Jesus didn't leave on a white horse, he won't return on one. The Revelation passage merely shows Christ at the head of heaven's armies as their leader in the battle over Rome and apostate Israel.

There are NO animals currently in heaven.

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and you can back that up scripturally with what passage?

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