Trinity

[CAP73]

Besides the obvious fact that it is one of the main precepts of Christianity, what is the importance of believing in the Trinity? I've been thinking about this a lot lately and would like to hear your opinions.

[Botz]

Besides the obvious fact that it is one of the main precepts of Christianity, what is the importance of believing in the Trinity? I've been thinking about this a lot lately and would like to hear your opinions.

I would never use the word 'Trinity' myself, but the importance in believing G-d, is in knowing Him as He has revealed Himself to us through the Scriptures...as far as I am aware the doctine of the Trinity was hammered out as a safe-guard for the Body of Messiah, so that they did not take on board a mis-understanding of the revealed nature and person of G-d, as evidenced through the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost....and to counteract the subtleties of various insidious heresies that were infiltrating the Church...in particular the Arian heresy that amongst other things insisted that Jesus our Saviour was a lesser god.

If we accept salvation through an unbiblical caricature of the One who has revealed Himself to us through Scripture and demonstrated His love to us through the Son and sent the Holy Spirit into the world, then our faith is founded on sand, and not on the Rock of Ages....and we will be subject to spiritual deception...part of the enemy's strategy.

[MelodyCat]

Raised by Serbian Orthodox parents, my father and grandfather would put my thumb, forefinger and middle finger together and say (in English for your benefit), "The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, our God is 3 in One not just One like the Muslims teach." My father and grandfather made sure we (the kids) grew up knowing the difference between Allah and God. Made an impression on me so when I came to be a Believer in my late teens I really understood our God was UNIQUE and this was part of His uniqueness.

Later in life I add to His Trinity that He also has a Son that he gave up to save mankind.

I still remember vivdly my grandfather making sure we kids understood about the Trinity. Putting His three fingers together in a gesture for us to follow him at Church and then crossing ourselves saying The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit, Amen.

[Hawkins]

Besides the obvious fact that it is one of the main precepts of Christianity, what is the importance of believing in the Trinity? I've been thinking about this a lot lately and would like to hear your opinions.

Because it is the end time now, heresies and false doctrines are everywhere. God will inform His Trinity to the second born Christians to assure them that their faith is the correct kind of faith demanded by God.

If you are willing to speculate, at this moment the sound doctrines are accompanied with the Trinity concept.

Edited December 22, 2009 by Hawkins

[godrulz]

We should worship God in spirit and in truth (Jn. 4:24). We should know Him and make Him known as He has revealed Himself. God is triune, not solitary. This shows that love, fellowship, relationship, communication, etc. is eternal, not just after creation. The Deity of Christ is essential truth since a counterfeit Christ is worthless (2 Cor. 11:4; Gal. 1:6-10; Jude 3; Jn. 1:12; Jn. 3:16; Jn. 14:6; Acts 4:12; Rom. 10:9-10). The incarnation (Jn. 1:1-14; Phil. 2:5-11) is also only understandable if we accept God's triune nature.

Polytheism, Arianism, Modalism/Sabellianism are all heretical views of God and refuted by Jn. 1:1.

[AnotherTraveler]

Besides the obvious fact that it is one of the main precepts of Christianity, what is the importance of believing in the Trinity? I've been thinking about this a lot lately and would like to hear your opinions.

It's not in the bible...at all. If God intended it to be a "main precept", He would have mentioned it, at least once. The doctrine is man made, 3rd century written, and the apostles never heard of the word trinity, so how central can it be?

[godrulz]

Besides the obvious fact that it is one of the main precepts of Christianity, what is the importance of believing in the Trinity? I've been thinking about this a lot lately and would like to hear your opinions.

It's not in the bible...at all. If God intended it to be a "main precept", He would have mentioned it, at least once. The doctrine is man made, 3rd century written, and the apostles never heard of the word trinity, so how central can it be?

Many theological concepts do not use our names in the Hebrew/Greek Bible. This is a lame JW argument (the word trinity is not in the Bible).

It can be shown from Scripture that there is one true God by nature, that the Father/Son/Holy Spirit are each called this one God, yet they are personally distinct (the Father is not the Son, etc.). The doctrine was formalized in response to heretical attacks against orthodoxy, but its truths were embraced earlier by Church Fathers, the early church, and in the biblical accounts.

Which group do you identify with? Oneness, Unitarian, JW, Armstrong, Christadelphian, etc.?

Do you affirm or deny that Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh? If not, who or what is He?

[AnotherTraveler]

Besides the obvious fact that it is one of the main precepts of Christianity, what is the importance of believing in the Trinity? I've been thinking about this a lot lately and would like to hear your opinions.

It's not in the bible...at all. If God intended it to be a "main precept", He would have mentioned it, at least once. The doctrine is man made, 3rd century written, and the apostles never heard of the word trinity, so how central can it be?

Many theological concepts do not use our names in the Hebrew/Greek Bible. This is a lame JW argument (the word trinity is not in the Bible).

It can be shown from Scripture that there is one true God by nature, that the Father/Son/Holy Spirit are each called this one God, yet they are personally distinct (the Father is not the Son, etc.). The doctrine was formalized in response to heretical attacks against orthodoxy, but its truths were embraced earlier by Church Fathers, the early church, and in the biblical accounts.

Which group do you identify with? Oneness, Unitarian, JW, Armstrong, Christadelphian, etc.?

Do you affirm or deny that Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh? If not, who or what is He?

Your reply is ignorant of the fact that what I wrote is completely true. Keep your associations to yourself, I read the bible, and I follow the bible, and God is as the bible says he is, period. I will not make foolish claims that are extra biblical, and in all the initial languages that the scriptures are written in, I am unaware of trinity, or any similar word, or any remotely sorta like word used to describe God. If you know what you are talking about, please quote chapter and verse, but if you are just blustering, I understand. BTW, the trinity doctrine does not make the claim that Jesus is God Almighty in the flesh, at least not that I have read, that is certainly not a direct quote of the doctrine, to my knowledge. I certainly believe what the scriptures say of God, and Jesus is God manifest in the flesh according to the scriptures.

Also, please read 1 Cor 1:11-21 regarding contentions and divisions

[AnotherTraveler]

The assembling of a doctrine is very similar to someone taking a set of random facts, entering them into a formula, and then requiring the world to accept the conclusions as though they were absolute truth. Even if all the facts are truth (certainly the scripture is truth entirely and verse by verse also), it is still possible to assemble and insert into formula all truth and to come up with conclusions that are more or less than what the bible says.

Baptism is a good example. John the baptist baptized. Jesus baptized. The apostles baptized. I have heard preachers claim that baptism is not relevant, yet my bible reads otherwise. I have heard preachers say if you are not baptized, you will go to hell, but my bible does not say that either. Certainly it is written in the scriptures for a purpose, and I have been baptized because I see the example in the scriptures. Someone can claim that is not relevant, but I have tried to do what I read the bible saying that I need to do, and I have trusted in the scriptures rather than someone else's private interpretation of them. 2 Peter 1:20

Just because we live in a day filled with commentaries from this or that famous person, does not make the comments carry the same weight as the scriptures that they are commenting on.

Many of the folks that are quoted freely believed in a flat earth, even though the scriptures said otherwise. Isaiah 40:22

[Botz]

IMO and with my understanding...The 'doctrine of the Trinity' is mans attempt to formulate what has already been revealed in Scripture, by defining in theological terminology a format that leaves no room for error. In many ways it is a noble effort, and done for the best of reasons...but personally what I find is that many people move away from biblical discourse, and attempt to defend 'THE TRINITY' as if man, even with the Scriptures open before him, can encapsulate the height and breadth and expanse of G-d.

If you study the doctrine of the Trinity, it is an uplifting experience, as it throws you back on the Scriptures and gets you to consider many aspects of the character, nature, substance and relationship of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, that are bound to be such a tremendous blessing...consubstantial, co-eternal, co-equal...great stuff!....but our understanding can never go far enough, because while in this mortal frame even with our best scholarly efforts, we will still see 'through a glass darkly' and like Moses who was hid in the 'cleft in the rock' just glimpse what G-d reveals.