The place of the prophet in the new testament.

[Scudbuddy]

Shadow,

I had one other thing to say about this. If we are to demand 100%, why do we then not demand stoning when the prophet fails? To quote you directly

"This is devolving into the- "TOTALLY-ABSURD!!"-GOD DOES NOT CHANGE HIS RULES--HIS-WORD--HIS QUALIFICATIONS FOR HIS PROPHET-IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREAM!!!EVER-PERIOD!!!!---

-YOU either Stay with GODS WORD & HIS BOOK OR YOU THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW & START MAKING UP YOUR OWN RULES--WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!!!"

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Don't want to mess with them rules now, do we?

[Guest shiloh357]

I had one other thing to say about this. If we are to demand 100%, why do we then not demand stoning when the prophet fails?

Because we don't live in a theocracy. Many of the commandments about stoning adulterers, homosexuals, rebellious children, Sabbath breakers, false prophets, were given as consequences for disobedience in a theocratic government (where God himself is King). In America for example, if we stoned a false prophet, it would be considered murder, and the people participating in that would be imprisoned.

[Scudbuddy]

Shiloh,

So if we lived in a theocracy, you would stone em?

[Guest shadow2b]

-Don't want to mess with them rules now, do we?

-WeLLLLL, mistuh-Sbuddy-mah-frenn-pal--am-E-go---Pahd-nuh---uhh??ohhhh-Bruthuh--suh---1st.off since I adone bin atryin ta tern ovuh a newe-leef--sorta-liyke--& I Reckon I jes might needs ta kinda A-Pol-o-gize ta yas jes a mite fer a hollerin at yas --sumwhuTt in that thaRr post----uhhhh?I kin git kinda sorta-liyke--

-Doggy-mat-ick-<<<<<-{mah puppy-dawg-spotty-buoy}--at tymes buyt I kinda thank mah dawg spotty-buoy--kinda IN-flu-e-n-ces me jes a mite since he do have sech a Dynamic persunality bout his-seff--sech a o-beed-e-ent-puppy too- only thang is I jes caint break him from a draggin-up-new toys ta play wit--tsk.tsk.tsk.--shayme--shayme on mah lill-ole puppy spotty-buoy---

-ohhhhhh-yeah where were I??hmmmm?? I fergit so often hyaRr lately--theys tells me it's duu-to {OLDE-AGE??}ya Reckon that aire true enny aTall?? plummb embarrasink-at tymes---enny howe

-Shadow,

I had one other thing to say about this. If we are to demand 100%, why do we then not demand stoning when the prophet fails? To quote you directly

-"This is devolving into the- "TOTALLY-ABSURD!!"-GOD DOES NOT CHANGE HIS RULES--HIS-WORD--HIS QUALIFICATIONS FOR HIS PROPHET-IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREAM!!!EVER-PERIOD!!!!---

-YOU either Stay with GODS WORD & HIS BOOK OR YOU THROW IT OUT THE WINDOW & START MAKING UP YOUR OWN RULES--WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!!!"

-WeLLLLLLLL, Mistuh SBuddy Brothuh suh--I sticks ta tha same werds & -principles-of THE LORD-GOD--ELOHIM---& HIS WORD----jest not quite so loudly- --mah -a-pol-o-geezee--again

mistuh-sbuddy--bruthuh suh-- -i'll sho trize ta knot-holler at yas no-mo--bro.suh- :oww: :hug:

[Scudbuddy]

Shadow,

So you would stone em? I am not quite sure what you just said, but I think your dog just took the heat for your post previous to the last post. Down Doggy.

[Guest shadow2b]

-I quoted Scripture. I didn't make up the "School of Prophets." If they were to be 100% accurate right from the beginning, why did they need to go to school?

-Buddy--Brother--When the neophyte went to "Serve"the elder--established

-called--anointed--set-aside--called-out-one-"Prophet OF GOD"--the young OBSERVED-& waited on the Prophet as a servant---HE DID NOT PROPHECY{uhhh??I aint hollerin-}jes makin a BIG Point-- --& In Biblical-times a neophyte could not start serving GOD as the prophet they had to be at least 30 years old---Now IF the young prophet to be was to be in training & observing ONLY

-he had been under the tutelage of that Prophet for 25-years or more-& usually more because the youngster could not become a prophet till the olde one died OR was caught up in a fiery chariot--sooooo--tharr yas erre-25 to 30-35--40 years??----I Reckon I kin wait -Iffin you--kin-?? :oww: :hug: -

-SOZE--If ya have a {-wanna-be-Prophet-}set him aside fer the next 25-years---

-{under the instruction of A sho-nuff-100%-certified-bonafied-set-aside-called-out one--proven--established--dedicated--GOD CALLED--Anointed-Prophet-}then we kin talk again & all yas haz to do is --Dial--BR549---- :hug: :oww:

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[Scudbuddy]

Thank you for proving my point. Learning process.

By the way, explain Samuels young age.

And where does it say they did not prophecy?

Oh, and them stones. What are you going to do with them? A man capable of missing it needs to know when to duck.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Shadow,

So you would stone em? I am not quite sure what you just said, but I think your dog just took the heat for your post previous to the last post. Down Doggy.

I believe its absolutely possible for true prophets to make mistakes. The bible teaches that the gift is in subjection to the prophet. So a true prophet can hear from God yet reword it so that it becomes an error through misstake or intentional.

For instants in the bible God said that his prophets where prophesying falsly. They were taking Gods hard word of harsh Judgement and softening up so that it came out as peaceful easy delightful to those that heard it in return this was causing Israel not to repent from its sins.

Its the same today when God is speaking Judgement is coming. Yet prophets of God are preaching peace and safty out of fear that people will be offended and leave their church. When was the last time you heard the Judgement of God being preached? Today we open our doors wide and welcome sin. When was the last time you heard a minister proclaiming to the body to repent and get right with God because God is going to bring judement upon you if you dont?

Jonah for instants afraid to preach God's Judgement because God told Jonah to go preach Judgement to the city. Yet Jonah rebelled and ran away. Later Jonah came back and preached Judgement. But guess what Judgement never came to that city. Does this make Jonah a false prophet because God changed his mind? Jonah later became mad with God because he preached judgement and it never happened.

God may use someone as a prophet and tell them what to say. Yet we being Human can take that word of prohecy and manipulate it so that it becomes worded wrong not because we are corrupt and evil but becaues we are human and some times we believe that it will offended others that will hear it. So we soften the word till it become false. Is this wrong, yes! But they are only human just as me and you and they are suject to mistakes and error.

This is why Paul said that we need people in the local church to Judge and study the prohecy to see if it is coming from the Spirit or is it coming from Man.

Whats really weird is that all the true prophets of God were killed by the Jews because the did not except them as true prophets until after the fact. Its no differant today in God's church. The church today is rasing up men that will tell them what they want to hear (Peace and Security) and the prophets of God that are warning the church and telling them to repent and get right with God because Judgement is coming are despised and hated.

[nebula]

Oh, yeah -

Nathan had to take back what he initially said to David about building the Temple.

So,

[Guest shiloh357]

Shiloh,

So if we lived in a theocracy, you would stone em?

Probably not me personally, but in a theocracy, a false prophet would be put to death, according to the Torah.