WN: Malaysian Court Allows Christian Use of 'Allah' - NewsMax

[MelodyCat]

I think that the english language is a very interesting language.

There are some words in english which mean different things to different people. For example sometimes a word might mean one thing to Americans, but sometimes it might mean a totally different thing to the British or Australians etc. The word might be spelt in the very same way, perhaps even pronounced in almost the same way {but with different accents} ......yet it means totally different things to both groups of people.

An example :

I am guessing that sometimes if an American just saw the word 'jelly' often perhaps he/she might automatically think of a type of sweet fruit-flavoured spread used on toast etc. Because this is how he/she views the word. This is what the word *means* to him/her.

On the other hand I think perhaps if a Brit or Australian just saw the word 'jelly' often perhaps he/she might automatically think of a wobbly gelatin-based dessert. Because that is how he/she views the word. This is what the word *means* to him/her.

In both situations the word is spelt the exact same way i.e. - jelly. Yet the word means totally different things to both persons.

The english language is not the only language in the world where sometimes..... a word written in the exact same way...... might mean different things to different groups of people.

born-again Christians in some places sometimes use a certain word to refer to the God of the Bible. They have the same God as their fellow Christians who use a different language. They love the same God with their hearts. They just use a different word to refer to Him. Because to them, in the Christian context the word does mean the God of the Bible to them.

I realise that many Christians on worthy and elsewhere might not feel comfortable with the usage of a certain word in a Christian context. I realise that. And I am not saying you need to use the same word at all. I am just hoping that more Christians on worthy would realise that in asia some of their brothers-and-sisters in Christ do use a word in a Christian context to refer to the same God as their own fellow Christian brethren. Even if you don't agree with them, please at least respect them as your own brothers-and-sisters in Christ. Please. This is what I hope.

Thank you.

So why are the Muslims bombing Christian Churches then? Because in the end even the Muslims see the difference between the Christian God and their god "Allah". Even Muslims are not fooled.

Why stop at calling God Allah, why not refer to God as Kahli or Vishna in India, after all these are familiar names for god in India and the Indians are familiar with the name.

Why didn't the Israelites when they took on BaaL or Molech worship refer to Yahweh and Baal. Because even though they defiled themselves with pagan practices they full well new God was not the same as Baal or Molech.

Now God is a generic term really it isn't a name. It is a noun refering to a Divine being. Allah, Kahli, Vishna, Baal and Molech are all NAMES.

EX 3:14 God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: `I AM has sent me to you.' "

EX 3:15 God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, `The LORD, the God of your fathers--the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob--has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation

EX 6:2 God also said to Moses, "I am the LORD. 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself known to them.

EX 33:19 And the LORD said, "I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."

LEV 22:31 "Keep my commands and follow them. I am the LORD. 32 Do not profane my holy name. I must be acknowledged as holy by the Israelites. I am the LORD, who makes you holy 33 and who brought you out of Egypt to be your God. I am the LORD."

EZE 20:39 " `As for you, O house of Israel, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Go and serve your idols, every one of you! But afterward you will surely listen to me and no longer profane my holy name with your gifts and idols.

1KI 5:3 "You know that because of the wars waged against my father David from all sides, he could not build a temple for the Name of the LORD his God until the LORD put his enemies under his feet. 4 But now the LORD my God has given me rest on every side, and there is no adversary or disaster. 5 I intend, therefore, to build a temple for the Name of the LORD my God, as the LORD told my father David, when he said, `Your son whom I will put on the throne in your place will build the temple for my Name.'

1KI 11:34 " `But I will not take the whole kingdom out of Solomon's hand; I have made him ruler all the days of his life for the sake of David my servant, whom I chose and who observed my commands and statutes. 35 I will take the kingdom from his son's hands and give you ten tribes. 36 I will give one tribe to his son so that David my servant may always have a lamp before me in Jerusalem, the city where I chose to put my Name.

2CH 7:13 "When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command locusts to devour the land or send a plague among my people, 14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 15 Now my eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place. 16 I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there.

PS 91:14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.

ISA 42:8 "I am the LORD; that is my name!

I will not give my glory to another

or my praise to idols.

JER 12:14 This is what the LORD says: "As for all my wicked neighbors who seize the inheritance I gave my people Israel, I will uproot them from their lands and I will uproot the house of Judah from among them. 15 But after I uproot them, I will again have compassion and will bring each of them back to his own inheritance and his own country. 16 And if they learn well the ways of my people and swear by my name, saying, `As surely as the LORD lives'--even as they once taught my people to swear by Baal--then they will be established among my people. 17 But if any nation does not listen, I will completely uproot and destroy it," declares the LORD.

MAL 1:14 "Cursed is the cheat who has an acceptable male in his flock and vows to give it, but then sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord. For I am a great king," says the LORD Almighty, "and my name is to be feared among the nations.

If Christians took some time to study how important the Name of God was. It is HOLY and to call him by another god's Name ....

God's Name has much significance. God says His Name is to be feared amongst nations. Well Allah is feared amongst some. However it's not Allah the Christian God they fear but Allah the god of another religion and it's other name is Terrorism.

God says His people are called by His Name. Names have a spiritual significance, they have Authority and Power. So if we call God, Allah are we covered by His Name? Isn't there then confusion. God says He doesn't give His glory to another. Whenever we use the Name Allah we are doing just that.

Jesus said many will come in my Name. Why? To steal His identity and lead people astray.

MT 24:4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, `I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many.

Here is the same situation instead of Allah using Yahweh to lead people astray, Allah has people using his name of Allah to take the Glory from God. It's still identity theft.

Jesus when he teaches the disciples to pray begins with this:-

MT 6:9 "This, then, is how you should pray:

" `Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,

How holy can His Name be if he has to share it with a god of this world Named Allah?

Honestly it is much more serious than a bowl of Jelly.

MelC

[Guest HIS girl]

This is interesting:pg 22 The Facts on Islam - John Ankerberg and John Weldon.

But who is Allah? Is he anything like the God of the Christian faith? As we will see, the Muslim God is entirely different from the Biblical God. First, the Koran stresses that Allah is one person only; "They are unbelievers who say, "God is the Third of Three.' No god is there but one God. If they refrain not from what they say, there shall afflict those of them that disbelieve a painful chastisement."

continues: pg 23

It is significant that of the "99 beautiful names of Allah," which Muslims memorize and use for worship, not one of these names is "love" or "loving". The Koran stresses that Allah only 'loves' those who do good, but that he does not love those who are bad. Allah himself emphasises that he does not love the sinner. Thus, the love of Allah is not the love of the God of the Bible. The Biblical God does love the sinner -

But God demonstrates His own love for us in that the Messiah died on our behalf while we were still sinners - Romans 5 v 8

God is love - in 1 John 4:16

[Botz]

Allah is arabic for God.

Bibles written in arabic say Allah.

Hard for some of us in the West to digest...but them's the facts.

In spite of the elaborate references and language used to define Allah as the Moon god, which appear generally accurate, it is also true that in this day and age the word Allah has come to refer to G-d from the perspective of translating the word G-d into Arabic.

Therefore when a Moslem comes to be born again, and saved through the blood of the Lamb...his understanding of who Allah/G-d is.... now changes. He is not trying to bolster up some Islamic definition of G-d...he rejects all Moslem teaching, and sees Allah as the Arabic word for G-d.

As far as I am aware, there are some groups in their outreach to Moslem's, who for obvious reasons try to steer them away from the continuation of the use of the word 'Allah', and it is a fact, there is a degree of division and confusion over this, as can already be seen from some of our responses on this thread.

Nobody can deny that they know the L-rd, and to try and decry the use of the word 'Allah' because of its inherent bad connotations to our Western thinking/experience will do nothing to encourage or help our Arab, and former Moslem, brethren.

When an Arab brother speaks English, they generally use all the same words that we do for G-d.

[Babbler]

Well, if you look up where the English word "God" comes from, it isn't much better.

I agree. The same with Easter and Christmas. But I find myself defending them due to the secularist attacks.

What is the saying, "we have inherited nothing but lies from our forefathers."