Let's Be Honest

[Blien]

Do you still deliberately sin? For example, you want something so badly but because you don't have money you steal it anyway, and later purchase it (an example is downloading software)? Or you know your not to do something, but you do it anyway? Not because you can't help it, but because the temptation is too great?

[~Shalhevet~]

Never!

[humbleseeker]

I do I have battled with temptation that I give into forever. It only seems there was a short period maybe 2 years were I was completly sold out to God, now it just seems when the hard times come that I usually bring upon myself that I turn to God with a sold out heart. Its terrible because I havealways felt I was called into full time ministry and I continue to have stumblingblocks. I know no one is perfect. I am hard on myself yet sometimes I can give in to the world and worry about it the next day.

[nebula]

Anyone of us can succumb at any moment. We all struggle with the same sin nature and will until we die.

[Blien]

I wonder though, if you deliberately sin against God, having received Jesus, and yet doing wrong while knowing it.. do you still go to Heaven?

[Guest LadyC]

do i? not with stealing or anything physical like that. but i would have to say that yes, i think i do when it comes to those sins hidden from the world... you know, the thoughts i entertain, my lax approach to my prayer life at times, that sort of thing.

but God convicts me really strong and really quickly about physical actions. like one day i went to walmart to buy two covered litter boxes. they were the only two there... they were two toned, or at least one of them was, and the other had the bottom staked inside the top. even the employee helping me didn't see it, and thought that it was missing the bottom half, and she was a supervisor, so she marked it down half price and told me if the top didn't fit my litterbox at home, i could return it. well, i paid for the items, left the store, got out to the car, and realized the bottom half WAS there.

i really just wanted to go home. i stood there kinda arguing with God for a minute... "i'll go back later, i don't want to go back in and stand in line, i'm tired, i'm hungry, God, i'll do it LATER!".

yeah well, God thumped me in the noggin and reminded me that i was a liar because i KNEW i wouldn't go back later. so i turned around and went back in with the receipt, took it to customer service and said "i need to pay you more money". lol, the customer service girl though i'd lost my mind. but at least i was straight with God.

now, if i could just be more obedient when it comes to those sins that the world doesn't see....

[nebula]

I wonder though, if you deliberately sin against God, having received Jesus, and yet doing wrong while knowing it.. do you still go to Heaven?

If this were the case, we would all be crispy critters.

[tah]

I wonder though, if you deliberately sin against God, having received Jesus, and yet doing wrong while knowing it.. do you still go to Heaven?

1Jn 1:4 And we write these things to you so that your joy may be full.

1Jn 1:5 And this is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.

1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us.

Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

[tah]

Let me add a litte note to that..if you are deliberately stealing or whatever be assured your Father will come and discipline you.. be assured for if He did not discipline you ...

Heb 12:8 But if you are without chastisement, of which all are partakers, then you are bastards and not sons.

Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh who corrected us, and we gave them reverence. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?

Heb 12:10 For truly they chastened us for a few days according to their own pleasure, but He for our profit, that we might be partakers of His holiness.

[Blien]

Let me add a litte note to that..if you are deliberately stealing or whatever be assured your Father will come and discipline you.. be assured for if He did not discipline you ...

Heb 12:8 But if you are without chastisement, of which all are partakers, then you are bastards and not sons.

Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh who corrected us, and we gave them reverence. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?

Heb 12:10 For truly they chastened us for a few days according to their own pleasure, but He for our profit, that we might be partakers of His holiness.

Thanks, I have been disciplined.. believe me. It was and is not fun.