wyguy Posted March 22, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 373 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,331 Content Per Day: 0.58 Reputation: 71 Days Won: 10 Joined: 10/15/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/1965 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Since most Liberals support abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, the removal of all references to God in public and government life, the teaching of "evolution only" in schools, placing human reasoning over the Bible, etc., can a Liberal even be a Christian in any sense of the word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbleseeker Posted March 22, 2010 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 519 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1980 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Well I gues it depends on the term liberal, if it is what you mentioned then no. Although I am sure there are people who are liberal and are Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning_Ember Posted March 22, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,009 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 100 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/20/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yes. Progressives has been responsible for many important societal changes that make America and other nations great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted March 22, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.07 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yes. Progressives has been responsible for many important societal changes that make America and other nations great. Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted March 22, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.20 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2010 If I examine my heart, then in some ways I may side with a "liberal", but in others I may not. It is the heart that testifies if we are following Christ, not a label or a definition of a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbleseeker Posted March 22, 2010 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 519 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1980 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Alot of what liberals want to do seem ideal, otside of abortion, gays, and well probably a dozen other things. What I am I talking about liberals are destroying the country. Its like were all on the titanic and its going down. Maybe we can get to the lifeboats and maybe fight and build this nation back up again one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted March 22, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.88 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 22, 2010 Since most Liberals support abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, the removal of all references to God in public and government life, the teaching of "evolution only" in schools, placing human reasoning over the Bible, etc., can a Liberal even be a Christian in any sense of the word? The label "liberal" means different things to different people. For example, a liberal over here still probably doesn't support gay marriage or abortion on demand, but points more towards grace at the expense of judgement (perhaps, too much). Social liberals in Australia are still quite conservative by most measures (unless you go to the extreme left... ). Don't ask me who said this originally, but a man I respect quoted someone along the lines of... When you are young, if you aren't a liberal, you don't have a heart. When you are old, if you aren't a conservative, you don't have a brain. I think I just hit middle age . He who is in the light, hates darkness. Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat8585 Posted March 22, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,360 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 7,866 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/22/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1946 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I don't see how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shalhevet~ Posted March 23, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 334 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 120 Days Won: 4 Joined: 08/13/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted March 23, 2010 A liberal by meaning pro-choice, pro-gay, etc. etc.....no, you cannot be Christian and stand for these things. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butero Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Since most Liberals support abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, the removal of all references to God in public and government life, the teaching of "evolution only" in schools, placing human reasoning over the Bible, etc., can a Liberal even be a Christian in any sense of the word? What I have observed with regard to liberals who claim to be Christians is that they believe in Jesus, but they don't believe in following scripture. Many don't even regard the Bible as the innerant Word of God. Others believe they can somehow separate their political beliefs from their Christian beliefs. Some are just ignorant on what the Bible teaches. When it comes to new Christians that came into the faith as a liberal, I look at it as they just need to be given a chance to learn about God, and over time, their liberal views should go. In the case of those who reject the innerancy of scripture, I believe they are serving a fairy tale Jesus. In other words, they think they know him, but in reality they don't. The entire Bible tells us of the nature of God, yet they choose to reject everything except the teachings of Jesus dealing with the love of God towards sinners. They create a false doctrine that claims Jesus was somehow a socialist, and it is clear that Jesus wasn't a political figure at all. Those who separate their religious beliefs from their political beliefs are only fooling themselves. You cannot separate the two. We are ambassadors for Christ, and it is our duty to promote God's views in this world, not our own opinions that contradict scripture. As such, I believe it is possible for someone to start out as a liberal Christian, but not to stay that way. If they do, I look at them as I do liberal Republicans. We call them RINOs (Republicans In Name Only.) I would call liberal Christians CINOs (Christians In Name Only). I don't know if you have noticed, but the truly left-wing people here at WB spend most of their time in the political section, and when they venture into the doctrinal areas, it is usually to promote things like evolution or tolerance towards homosexuals. They are spending their time promoting anti-Christ things rather than sound doctrine. Some of the liberals don't ever discuss anything but politics, and you wonder if they even claim any real faith in the Lord, or if they just joined under false pretenses. My view is no real Christian can support legalized abortion and shouldn't be supporting homosexual rights. With regard to the homosexual agenda, some acknowledge the sinfulness of the behavior, but are only saying they shouldn't be mistreated. I am not coming against those with this belief, but I do have a problem with those who teach that homosexuals are normal and that they are no differen't than anyone of a minority race when it comes to descriminiation. I suppose a person can have socialist political views and be a Christian, but what they don't realize is that socialists are putting their main trust in government. To the socialist, that is their true God, and the God of the Bible plays second fiddle to government. Some socialist minded Christians are just ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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