Jump to content

Recommended Posts


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  8
  • Topic Count:  200
  • Topics Per Day:  0.16
  • Content Count:  4,379
  • Content Per Day:  3.46
  • Reputation:   1,946
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  12/17/2021
  • Status:  Offline
  • Birthday:  06/03/1955

Posted
Yes I think they can, but I think it would depend on where they are in their relationship with God. We do not have to be 100% correct in our doctrines, beliefs or views when we come to Christ, but one would think over time through the working of the Holy Spirit ones values would change and it would be evidenced in their life. There are many conservative Christians who are just as "in danger" as many liberals who claim to be Christians. They are "lukewarm" in their faith, stagnant. Scripture has a lot to say about "lukewarm" Christians - whether they are conservative or liberal. Being conservative doesn't mean mature Christian either.

My problem is more with Liberal Christianity as a faith system. It is all pick & choose. There are no standards, or core beliefs, it's basically whatever you want it to believe. Like was said above, most do not believe in a literal 7 day creation but rather evolution, most believe all religions lead to God, most don't believe in sin really either. None of these things are biblical. While I will not judge the state of their heart (only God can do that), by looking at their beliefs and values, I find it hard to see the Holy Spirit residing in them, working in them.

I so agree. It depends on whether they were ever saved to begin with. Remember, we are saved by faith alone, not by any works that we may do. I personally tend to believe that the person described in the OP is lost, but only God knows for sure. By their fruit you will know them.
  • Replies 28
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  3
  • Topic Count:  366
  • Topics Per Day:  0.05
  • Content Count:  10,933
  • Content Per Day:  1.49
  • Reputation:   212
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  04/21/2005
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

Yes


  • Group:  Senior Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  32
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  904
  • Content Per Day:  0.16
  • Reputation:   15
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  12/23/2009
  • Status:  Offline

Posted

Would Jesus share the same world view as a Liberal?

Guest Butero
Posted
Would Jesus share the same world view as a Liberal?

You can clearly see from the Bible he did not share their views, though some liberals like to pervert Jesus' words in such a manner as to make him out to be a socialist.

Guest shiloh357
Posted
Would Jesus share the same world view as a Liberal?

"Liberal" is a subjective term. What kind of worldview are you referring to?


  • Group:  Senior Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  32
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  904
  • Content Per Day:  0.16
  • Reputation:   15
  • Days Won:  1
  • Joined:  12/23/2009
  • Status:  Offline

Posted
Would Jesus share the same world view as a Liberal?

"Liberal" is a subjective term. What kind of worldview are you referring to?

Biblical one. Jesus said to help the poor, weak, sick, however, this was not His priority. He came to fulfill the will of the Father! Christ came to make the Father known to us and to expand His kingdom in the lives of those who would believe, and His cross was part of that. Jesus said," give to caesar what belongs to caesar and give to God what belongs to God". Stand for what is right and stand against those principles that are opposed to Gods. I will submit to the laws of the land but if those laws cross the word of God i will give God my honor by keeping His word. If faith is dead without actions then our actions tell the world what we believe and do not believe. Jesus also said that you will know my people because of there fruit. If a tree has apples, it must be a apple tree.


  • Group:  Diamond Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  34
  • Topics Per Day:  0.01
  • Content Count:  1,673
  • Content Per Day:  0.25
  • Reputation:   111
  • Days Won:  0
  • Joined:  03/21/2007
  • Status:  Offline

Posted
Would Jesus share the same world view as a Liberal?

no


  • Group:  Diamond Member
  • Followers:  1
  • Topic Count:  20
  • Topics Per Day:  0.00
  • Content Count:  732
  • Content Per Day:  0.13
  • Reputation:   113
  • Days Won:  5
  • Joined:  03/26/2010
  • Status:  Offline
  • Birthday:  04/30/1971

Posted
Since most Liberals support abortion on demand, the homosexual agenda, the removal of all references to God in public and government life, the teaching of "evolution only" in schools, placing human reasoning over the Bible, etc., can a Liberal even be a Christian in any sense of the word? :thumbsup:

What I have observed with regard to liberals who claim to be Christians is that they believe in Jesus, but they don't believe in following scripture. Many don't even regard the Bible as the innerant Word of God. Others believe they can somehow separate their political beliefs from their Christian beliefs. Some are just ignorant on what the Bible teaches.

When it comes to new Christians that came into the faith as a liberal, I look at it as they just need to be given a chance to learn about God, and over time, their liberal views should go. In the case of those who reject the innerancy of scripture, I believe they are serving a fairy tale Jesus. In other words, they think they know him, but in reality they don't. The entire Bible tells us of the nature of God, yet they choose to reject everything except the teachings of Jesus dealing with the love of God towards sinners. They create a false doctrine that claims Jesus was somehow a socialist, and it is clear that Jesus wasn't a political figure at all. Those who separate their religious beliefs from their political beliefs are only fooling themselves. You cannot separate the two. We are ambassadors for Christ, and it is our duty to promote God's views in this world, not our own opinions that contradict scripture.

As such, I believe it is possible for someone to start out as a liberal Christian, but not to stay that way. If they do, I look at them as I do liberal Republicans. We call them RINOs (Republicans In Name Only.) I would call liberal Christians CINOs (Christians In Name Only). I don't know if you have noticed, but the truly left-wing people here at WB spend most of their time in the political section, and when they venture into the doctrinal areas, it is usually to promote things like evolution or tolerance towards homosexuals. They are spending their time promoting anti-Christ things rather than sound doctrine. Some of the liberals don't ever discuss anything but politics, and you wonder if they even claim any real faith in the Lord, or if they just joined under false pretenses.

My view is no real Christian can support legalized abortion and shouldn't be supporting homosexual rights. With regard to the homosexual agenda, some acknowledge the sinfulness of the behavior, but are only saying they shouldn't be mistreated. I am not coming against those with this belief, but I do have a problem with those who teach that homosexuals are normal and that they are no differen't than anyone of a minority race when it comes to descriminiation. I suppose a person can have socialist political views and be a Christian, but what they don't realize is that socialists are putting their main trust in government. To the socialist, that is their true God, and the God of the Bible plays second fiddle to government. Some socialist minded Christians are just ignorant.

Well said! :emot-handshake:

I guess I do fall into this category:

some acknowledge the sinfulness of the behavior, but are only saying they shouldn't be mistreated.

Homosexuality is a choice, just like so many others and it is blatantly a sin. Anyone who reads the Bible cannot rationally deny that fact. But I've known Christians who were militant about their rejection of homosexuals. I'll give you a little example.

I had a friend who told me about one of her family member's reactions to a homosexual pair he encountered on the street. (Keep in mind that my friend and her family are all Christians. She's even married to a pastor, which is why this bothered me more than usual.) Her family member spotted a pair of men walking down the street holding hands. He approached them and began to "preach" about how they were an abomination before God and were going to hell and that they were disgusting, etc.

My friend was laughing as she told me this story. The only thing I could think about was how those two men will probably equate all Christians with the one who'd attacked them and would likely never be willing to listen to any other Christian again. So yes, homosexuality is a sin. It is not some kind of God (or government IMHO) given right like freedom from slavery or freedom to worship without persecution. But anyone who thinks it's funny or right to attack homosexuals on sight and beat them over the head with the Bible needs to take a step back and check up on their Christianity. We're to love the sinner but hate the sin.

They need salvation just like everyone else and that isn't a message that can be delivered in anger.


  • Group:  Royal Member
  • Followers:  5
  • Topic Count:  955
  • Topics Per Day:  0.15
  • Content Count:  11,318
  • Content Per Day:  1.77
  • Reputation:   448
  • Days Won:  33
  • Joined:  12/16/2007
  • Status:  Offline

Posted
I think as said before librial is a subective term, In the UK i wauld be considered conservitive in my political views because of my opposition to abortion, my opposition to the homosexual agendabut in the US I'd be considered librial as I support the "obligation of the nobles" or in other words the obligation of political eletes to help the poor.

OK I gotta ask, where does this obligation come from? :foot-stomp:

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Our picks

    • You are coming up higher in this season – above the assignments of character assassination and verbal arrows sent to manage you, contain you, and derail your purpose. Where you have had your dreams and sleep robbed, as well as your peace and clarity robbed – leaving you feeling foggy, confused, and heavy – God is, right now, bringing freedom back -- now you will clearly see the smoke and mirrors that were set to distract you and you will disengage.

      Right now God is declaring a "no access zone" around you, and your enemies will no longer have any entry point into your life. Oil is being poured over you to restore the years that the locust ate and give you back your passion. This is where you will feel a fresh roar begin to erupt from your inner being, and a call to leave the trenches behind and begin your odyssey in your Christ calling moving you to bear fruit that remains as you minister to and disciple others into their Christ identity.

      This is where you leave the trenches and scale the mountain to fight from a different place, from victory, from peace, and from rest. Now watch as God leads you up higher above all the noise, above all the chaos, and shows you where you have been seated all along with Him in heavenly places where you are UNTOUCHABLE. This is where you leave the soul fight, and the mind battle, and learn to fight differently.

      You will know how to live like an eagle and lead others to the same place of safety and protection that God led you to, which broke you out of the silent prison you were in. Put your war boots on and get ready to fight back! Refuse to lay down -- get out of bed and rebuke what is coming at you. Remember where you are seated and live from that place.

      Acts 1:8 - “But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses … to the end of the earth.”

       

      ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY
        • Thanks
        • This is Worthy
        • Thumbs Up
      • 3 replies
    • George Whitten, the visionary behind Worthy Ministries and Worthy News, explores the timing of the Simchat Torah War in Israel. Is this a water-breaking moment? Does the timing of the conflict on October 7 with Hamas signify something more significant on the horizon?

       



      This was a message delivered at Eitz Chaim Congregation in Dallas Texas on February 3, 2024.

      To sign up for our Worthy Brief -- https://worthybrief.com

      Be sure to keep up to date with world events from a Christian perspective by visiting Worthy News -- https://www.worthynews.com

      Visit our live blogging channel on Telegram -- https://t.me/worthywatch
      • 0 replies
    • Understanding the Enemy!

      I thought I write about the flip side of a topic, and how to recognize the attempts of the enemy to destroy lives and how you can walk in His victory!

      For the Apostle Paul taught us not to be ignorant of enemy's tactics and strategies.

      2 Corinthians 2:112  Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. 

      So often, we can learn lessons by learning and playing "devil's" advocate.  When we read this passage,

      Mar 3:26  And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. 
      Mar 3:27  No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strongman; and then he will spoil his house. 

      Here we learn a lesson that in order to plunder one's house you must first BIND up the strongman.  While we realize in this particular passage this is referring to God binding up the strongman (Satan) and this is how Satan's house is plundered.  But if you carefully analyze the enemy -- you realize that he uses the same tactics on us!  Your house cannot be plundered -- unless you are first bound.   And then Satan can plunder your house!

      ... read more
        • Praise God!
        • Thumbs Up
      • 230 replies
    • Daniel: Pictures of the Resurrection, Part 3

      Shalom everyone,

      As we continue this study, I'll be focusing on Daniel and his picture of the resurrection and its connection with Yeshua (Jesus). 

      ... read more
      • 13 replies
    • Abraham and Issac: Pictures of the Resurrection, Part 2
      Shalom everyone,

      As we continue this series the next obvious sign of the resurrection in the Old Testament is the sign of Isaac and Abraham.

      Gen 22:1  After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, "Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."
      Gen 22:2  He said, "Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you."

      So God "tests" Abraham and as a perfect picture of the coming sacrifice of God's only begotten Son (Yeshua - Jesus) God instructs Issac to go and sacrifice his son, Issac.  Where does he say to offer him?  On Moriah -- the exact location of the Temple Mount.

      ...read more
      • 20 replies

×
×
  • Create New...