Question for you Christians

[Draigon]

There is nothing wrong with searching and asking questions. In fact, it's good to seek, as long as you are seeking in the right place. On one hand it's good that you are asking Christians questions about their faith (because we should know what we believe and why), it is also bad because most ppl don't know the answers to the hard questions (just like you dont' know all the answers about Wicca). The really bad thing is when ppl try to explain things they don't understand ... and end up looking stupid. What I like about you, is that you will at least admit when you don't know something. Alot more Christians would do well if they just said "i don't know", instead of making up some reason. God doesn't need defended. Christians just need to live what they believe, without contradiction and we would have a much less difficult time trying to "prove" our faith is real.

I know that didn't answer any of your questions...lol...just my $.02

I have no fear of admiting when I am wrong, or when I do not know something...unlike God I do not know all, if I did I wouldn't be searching.

now to level things back out and calm this thing down before it turns to war. I am not trying to offend anyone with what I post or ask, I am just looking for what your answers are.

questions asked so far, with answers...

1) if God gives us free will, then why does he plan our life out for us? that isn't free will in my eyes.

2) How come the Bible condridicts it's self so much?

3) How come Christians judge those who are not Christians, saying we are going to hell? how do you know? you are not God, God is the only one to judge..."Bible, do not judge others" that is right out of the book you live by.

if I leave, I will be back I will be getting off of her forawhile.

[Draigon]

Its not that you are asking questions...

The problem seems to be that you are asking questions simply to prove the Christians wrong. And the lack of respect coming from Silver-Bullets is doing nothing but giving Wiccans a bad name.

Chazy.

yet again dear, you are judging...he is not wiccan actually, he is athiest. I am wiccan ^_~

[Matthitjah]

Draigon,

So the Christians whom you have known have hurt you?

Has Jesus Christ hurt you?

Another thing you seem to want answers? Is silver bullets fulfilling this for you? Now whom do you serve?

The Lord Jesus Christ came to set you free from any and all masters.

Who's controlling you now?

Do you really have Free will?

Peace,

Dave

[littleladyinblack]

yet again dear, you are judging...he is not wiccan actually, he is athiest. I am wiccan ^_~

Yet again? When have I "judged" before?

And that is not "judging", that is assuming.

I sure hope he's not the one who is going to teach you about Wicca.

If thats the case, I pity you.

Chazy.

Edited August 5, 2004 by littleladyinblack

[Kabowd]

questions asked so far, with answers...

1) if God gives us free will, then why does he plan our life out for us? that isn't free will in my eyes.

2) How come the Bible condridicts it's self so much?

3) How come Christians judge those who are not Christians, saying we are going to hell? how do you know? you are not God, God is the only one to judge..."Bible, do not judge others" that is right out of the book you live by.

1) Super Jew did a great job explaining this one (although I'm still confused about it most of the time..lol)

2) Can you post a specific contradiction? It's hard to argue this when there isn't something specific

3) If you are not a Christian (that is, if you have not accepted Christ as your Savior) then according to Scripture, you have condemned yourself already. It's not Christians who are placing this judgment on you, you have placed it on yourself (if you are not a Christian) by rejecting Christ. John 3:17-18 are two verses that comes to mind. If you need more, I'll post them later.

[Matthitjah]

Draigon,

Did you also notice how quickly your demeanor changed when he arrived?

You became abusive and derogatory.

Is this the norm around him?

You seem open to questions while he is closed minded.

Since he already knows everything? The burden is upon him to prove a negative.

He already has defined himself by the Word of God.

Will you be defined with him?

Peace,

Dave

[ServingHim]

Is god omiscent?

you mean onmiscient ... YES.

Do we have free will?

and another resounding YES!

Thanks for the quick spelling fix .

no problem!

Now, do you realize that if God is omniscient he knows what we are going to do before we do it,

Yes I realize that...God is God. I don't even begin to think that I can understand the mind of our God?!

therefor we have no choice in the matter, meaning we have no free will.

we DO have a choice, but in God's omniscience, He already knows which way we will turn..

The other possibility is that we have free will and God is not omniscient. Take your pick, but he isn't both, just like he isn't omnipotent.

we have free will, AND God knows before ALL TIME which way we will turn...yes it can be both... :il:

[Draigon]

Draigon,

So the Christians whom you have known have hurt you?

Has Jesus Christ hurt you?

Another thing you seem to want answers? Is silver bullets fulfilling this for you? Now whom do you serve?

The Lord Jesus Christ came to set you free from any and all masters.

Who's controlling you now?

Do you really have Free will?

Peace,

Dave

littleladyinblack-Yet again? When have I "judged" before?

And that is not "judging", that is assuming.

I sure hope he's not the one who is going to teach you about Wicca.

If thats the case, I pity you.

Chazy.

Like I said, he is NOT wiccan, he is athiest.

So the Christians whom you have known have hurt you?

all the christians I have known have hurt me.

Has Jesus Christ hurt you?

yes, as a matter of fact, he has forsaken me.

Another thing you seem to want answers? Is silver bullets fulfilling this for you? Now whom do you serve?

I serve no one and silver-bullet is my friend, and he does not even agree with my religion so yea. He is not controlling me, they only one allowed to do that is my crow

The Lord Jesus Christ came to set you free from any and all masters.

Then that makes God my master, so that isn't the truth, becasue God would be my master if I came to him.

Who's controlling you now?

like I said no one is, but I allow one to, and he doesn't even do it.

Do you really have Free will?

I have free will as long as God is not in control, along with anyone else.

[apothanein kerdos]

1) if God gives us free will, then why does he plan our life out for us? that isn't free will in my eyes.

Don't know if you saw my post...

2) How come the Bible condridicts it's self so much?

I was wondering if you'd be so kind to list some contradictions for me. I will give you fair warning though, it may take me a while (2-3 days) to respond. I'm in the process of moving and all my books, Bible included, is packed away.

3) How come Christians judge those who are not Christians, saying we are going to hell? how do you know? you are not God, God is the only one to judge..."Bible, do not judge others" that is right out of the book you live by.

In Matthew 7:1 we are told "Do not judge or the standard you judge by will also be applied to you." The Greek in this is telling us not to condemn people based upon how they look. Thus if I see someone walking down the street dressed like Maryln Manson, I cannot say, "Oh he's doomed to hell." Likewise if I see a man in a business suit and a Bible in his hand, I cannot say, "Oh he's going to heaven". The simple fact is, I don't know. You're right that we have to be careful on who we say is going to heaven and going to hell even after we talk to people. I've had friends that were Christians, accepted Christ, turned to Wicca, Athiesm, Buddism, etc. and came back to Christ. A typical Christian, talking to them during their "fallen" stages, would say they were doomed for hell. Well we don't know that.

However, we can say that unless you have accepted Christ as your savoir, you will go to hell (John 14:6). That is all we can say. I can't say who has and who hasn't.

[ServingHim]

Again...I will say, I do not believe in the Bible because as you have proven, it is to wishy-washy and nothing can be taken truthfully.

and you are most welcome to believe or not what you desire. You have FREE WILL, a TRUE GIFT from our Creator! You can CHOSE whether you want to love HIM or not. YOUR CHOICE! How amazing is that. :il: