Guest Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 my family is mexican and i support this. I am tired of seeing my people working for pennies. i know that parties are using race for their points but I see this as stopping modern day slavery. Amen! And This Current Wave Of "Slaves" Started With The Bracero (Strong Arm) Program Helping To Feed The Troops In WW II [url=http://hnn.us/articles/27336.html].... The wartime Bracero program ended in 1947, and many Mexican workers elected to migrate illegally because such migration was tolerated. If they were apprehended inside the US, illegal Mexicans were legalized in a process that official U.S. government publications called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pamiam Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 188 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/29/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2010 I say yeah for AZ and a governor with the guts to do something. I was in a car in Sierra Vista, AZ, a few years ago when a stolen truck with a cab and bed full of illegals, being chased by police, hit the intersection, aiming for the police officer but hit the tack strip, rolled, flew through the air and landed on innocents in their cars. Six people died right there. Let's think about them and their families and that was only one day, one incident. This is a war. We are continuing to be invaded. What's wrong with this picture? Too much. I'm in the Palm Springs/Indio, CA area right now and it is Mexifornia. Drove by my rentals in Riverside last week and it is Mexifornia. If you think I'm prejudiced, think again. I'm simply disgusted with the politicians who have ruined this beautiful state. I had two employees who paid coyotes to smuggle in relatives from Mexico and that's when I really had my eyes opened to the underground. I've had wonderful experiences with the friendly, hard-working, intelligent Mexicans who populate our state, but it is ridiculous to think we can continue to support this deluge of people invading our land. Obama is playing to the growing population of Mexicans and counting on support for his own political purposes. It's too much, really. Corruption abounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2010 I say yeah for AZ and a governor with the guts to do something. I was in a car in Sierra Vista, AZ, a few years ago when a stolen truck with a cab and bed full of illegals, being chased by police, hit the intersection, aiming for the police officer but hit the tack strip, rolled, flew through the air and landed on innocents in their cars. Six people died right there. Let's think about them and their families and that was only one day, one incident. This is a war. We are continuing to be invaded. What's wrong with this picture? Too much. I'm in the Palm Springs/Indio, CA area right now and it is Mexifornia. Drove by my rentals in Riverside last week and it is Mexifornia. If you think I'm prejudiced, think again. I'm simply disgusted with the politicians who have ruined this beautiful state. I had two employees who paid coyotes to smuggle in relatives from Mexico and that's when I really had my eyes opened to the underground. I've had wonderful experiences with the friendly, hard-working, intelligent Mexicans who populate our state, but it is ridiculous to think we can continue to support this deluge of people invading our land. Obama is playing to the growing population of Mexicans and counting on support for his own political purposes. It's too much, really. Corruption abounds. Hey...I totally agree with you. I've seen my fair share of negative issues concerning illegals too. Which is why I support the intent of this law...and I support our Governor! The best thing Obama ever did for the State of Arizona is take Janet Napolitano away. Everything you mentioned is all parts of why we need the Feds to step up and do something to secure our borders. Thats the real issue. However, even with my support, I must wonder about the issue of race and how it plays into this. There is NO DOUBT that this law focuses on one race in particular...and even your comments on mexicans and "mexifornia"...indicates that you acknowledge that this law is directed at a specific race of people. I have a bit of a hard time with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,268 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,001 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2010 I wonder if Obama visits Arizona if the police will ask him if he is a immigrant. How would he prove it, he doesn't have a birth certificate. this was my thought too as I read the original post Oh come on, LPT, don't believe everything you hear in American politics. Most of it is swill. Hey, come to think of it, It would finally force him to bring this supposed existing document out of hiding and into the Light. I think everyone pretty much knows Obama was born in Hawaii....Dave. Yeah, but who or what was/is his father. He has spent millions of dollars to hide that document, and pelple don't do that for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,268 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,001 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2010 Oh, and BTW, Oklahoma passed a law similiar to this in 2007, and we had a mass exodus of illegals from our state. I haven't researched the effects of them leaving, but I haven't noticed anything negative except for those who were involved with them being here. Oklahoma City had several appartment complexes go bankrupt over them leaving, but that didn't get much sympathy from anyone. The cost of lawn care went up a bit I haven't heard of a single person complaining of racial profiling in the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.93 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 However, even with my support, I must wonder about the issue of race and how it plays into this. There is NO DOUBT that this law focuses on one race in particular...and even your comments on mexicans and "mexifornia"...indicates that you acknowledge that this law is directed at a specific race of people. I have a bit of a hard time with that. Is there a problem with illegals from other countries than Mexico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbleseeker Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 519 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1980 Share Posted April 28, 2010 This is a good thing that, more states should adopt. If your illegal not matter what race, you should be held accountable. We have job problems here for Americans who pay taxes. Of course its not popular with our President who may or may not be an illegal himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,268 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 28,001 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2010 However, even with my support, I must wonder about the issue of race and how it plays into this. There is NO DOUBT that this law focuses on one race in particular...and even your comments on mexicans and "mexifornia"...indicates that you acknowledge that this law is directed at a specific race of people. I have a bit of a hard time with that. Is there a problem with illegals from other countries than Mexico? Neb, it depends on what part of the country you're in. California has a number of Asians. New York has just about everything. I think Arizona's problems are loaded on the Mexican side, but there are some Central and South American's who come through Mexico and from the Caribbean Islands including Cuba. This is the case for most of the southern coast states from what I've read over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted April 28, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.93 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 However, even with my support, I must wonder about the issue of race and how it plays into this. There is NO DOUBT that this law focuses on one race in particular...and even your comments on mexicans and "mexifornia"...indicates that you acknowledge that this law is directed at a specific race of people. I have a bit of a hard time with that. Is there a problem with illegals from other countries than Mexico? Neb, it depends on what part of the country you're in. California has a number of Asians. New York has just about everything. I think Arizona's problems are loaded on the Mexican side, but there are some Central and South American's who come through Mexico and from the Caribbean Islands including Cuba. This is the case for most of the southern coast states from what I've read over the years. So, in Arizona, is there a problem with illegals who are not Hispanic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I have yet to receive the training that Gov. Brewer has spoken of (neither have you) so it would be hard for me to comment on exactly how the law changes will affect law enforcement. It is my suspicion, and that of most of my co-workers, that we will be trained in how to expand our definitions of "questionable" and "suspicious" in a legal sense. Thats how most of these law changes and definitions work. I doubt it. All it does is allow police officers to do their job better. How many law enforcement training sessions have you been to? I've been to dozens and I've specifically been to many that dealt with instruction on new laws and how to implement them. Yeah and so have the law enforcement officers in Arizona who support this law. They have said that had this been in place earlier, it would have saved the lives of their fellow officers and several civilians. Desipte what you think, you are NOT the last word on every subject you choose to address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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