Does Science Prove God Exists?

[Guest Watchman_2]

Science, not only proves that God Exists, but, proves Christianity to be reality -- not a religion. Only modern science has given us the means and methodology to measure the approximate time back in history in which animals lived and roamed the earth. From radio-isotope fossil dating, we know, for FACT, that dinosaurs roamed the earth millions of years ago.

For more recent fossil remains [last 30,000 years], carbon 14 fossil dating informs us, for FACT, that there was a mass extinction of all land mammals that took place around 14,000 years ago, which spelled the end of the Pleistocene. No land mammals have crossed this bridge in time. Mammals that existed before 14,000 years ago do not exist today. Likewise, no land mammal that exists today can ever be shown to have lived before 14,000 years ago.

Whereas, scientists have theorized the demise of the dinosaur by finding a layer of sediment containing irridium, no such theory can be proffered for the mass extinction 14,000 years ago. All this fits perfectly and in alignment with the Word of God, written 2000 and more years ago.

In 2 Pet. 3:6, God informs us that the previous age was destroyed and overflowed with water. In 3:8, we are given a formula of one of God's days equal to 1000 of mankind's years. Since the timeline back to the formation of Adam gives us a bit over 6,000 years of history, the approximate date for the commencement of this second age can be calculated. Prior to Adam's formation, there were 6 of God's days in reforming the earth for this second age plus a God day of rest, which, in mankind's years, comes to 7,000 years.

Accordingly, the commencement of this second age, pursuant to the Word of God written so long ago, was approximately 13,000 years ago. This aligns perfectly with the termination of the previous age [end of Pleistocene]. As God destroyed the first age, there may not be concrete evidence as to how He did it. Hence, science cannot claim it was a natural act such as an asteroid or comet impact.

Hence, if the Bible was taught properly, science provides us proof that God exists.

[OneLight]

Science, not only proves that God Exists, but, proves Christianity to be reality -- not a religion. Only modern science has given us the means and methodology to measure the approximate time back in history in which animals lived and roamed the earth. From radio-isotope fossil dating, we know, for FACT, that dinosaurs roamed the earth millions of years ago.

For more recent fossil remains [last 30,000 years], carbon 14 fossil dating informs us, for FACT, that there was a mass extinction of all land mammals that took place around 14,000 years ago, which spelled the end of the Pleistocene. No land mammals have crossed this bridge in time. Mammals that existed before 14,000 years ago do not exist today. Likewise, no land mammal that exists today can ever be shown to have lived before 14,000 years ago.

Whereas, scientists have theorized the demise of the dinosaur by finding a layer of sediment containing irridium, no such theory can be proffered for the mass extinction 14,000 years ago. All this fits perfectly and in alignment with the Word of God, written 2000 and more years ago.

In 2 Pet. 3:6, God informs us that the previous age was destroyed and overflowed with water. In 3:8, we are given a formula of one of God's days equal to 1000 of mankind's years. Since the timeline back to the formation of Adam gives us a bit over 6,000 years of history, the approximate date for the commencement of this second age can be calculated. Prior to Adam's formation, there were 6 of God's days in reforming the earth for this second age plus a God day of rest, which, in mankind's years, comes to 7,000 years.

Accordingly, the commencement of this second age, pursuant to the Word of God written so long ago, was approximately 13,000 years ago. This aligns perfectly with the termination of the previous age [end of Pleistocene]. As God destroyed the first age, there may not be concrete evidence as to how He did it. Hence, science cannot claim it was a natural act such as an asteroid or comet impact.

Hence, if the Bible was taught properly, science provides us proof that God exists.

So, you believe that the bible has to agree with science? To me, you have it backwards. The previous age was before Noah. As for the day being 1000 years and a 1000 years a day speaks of God being timeless. I suggest that you stop trying to make scripture follow the laws of mans science and concentrate of scripture alone.

[georgedrw81]

Science is like a child. A child investigates and discovers and as it grows its confidence increases to eventually thinking it knows everything. The child becomes independent to the point of challanging the parents.However as it grows older it realises that the parents were right all along. Science proves that we are children with toys under God's supervision.

Blessings

[Da Servant]

We know that inanimate things cannot create animated things (rocks cannot create birds). We know that dead things cannot create living things (a corpse cannot create a dog). It must be that a living thing created the universe and all that is in it. Since the universe can't create itself, it must have been created by someone outside the realm of the physical, a pre-existing being capable of creative thought, having vast amounts of knowledge and wisdom. Given the advances in science, especially concerning the makeup and the delicateness of the atomic structure, and not willing that the creation should destroy itself, the Creator of the universe must have a caring about whether things are done correctly or no. There are two types of spirits, good and bad. Since bad spirits are evil, and only want to destroy, the universe must have been created by a good spirit. This leads to the question "Is there a such thing as God?" The answer is yes. So yes, science does prove that God exists.

[Guest Watchman_2]

So, you believe that the bible has to agree with science?

The Bible is not a science book nor is a science book instruction in righteousness. However, if the Bible [manuscripts] represents the Word of the one True God, then, of course, the Bible should correlate, when addressing a historical and/or scientific event, to that which is known to be FACT from true historical and scientific research and analysis.

In Christ's last words to His disciples, the great commission was given to spread the Gospel to all nations and people. Of course, this commission has not ceased. The endtime events cannot commence until the Gospel has, indeed, been spread to all peoples in all lands.

Hence, Christians, who believe in the young [6,000-year] earth, are in no position to further the purpose of the Great Commission. Anyone with an education, that has a TV, or has seen or ridden in an automobile would know that the earth is much older than 6,000 years. Hence, if such biblically-illiterate Christians come to these educated heathens to spread the Gospel, then, upon hearing that they believe in a young earth, the Gospel would be rejected as well. The only rational conclusion that can be reached by the educated heathen from said illiterate Christians is that the Bible is bunk. These illiterate Christians could only spread the Gospel to those more secluded and ignorant then themselves.

What is God's will for this second age??

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Surely, God wants scientists and the heathen educated masses of people to come to repentance too. This is not done by trying to convince them to believe in the lie of a 6,000 year old earth, but is done by preaching the True Word of God, which conforms to the scientific facts that are known today.

To me, you have it backwards. The previous age was before Noah.

This is a common error of many churches due to Bible illiteracy and lack of scholarship. In evaluating 2 Pet. 3:6, one would notice that there was a flood which ended the first age. A Bible student should know that the Bible details the earth to be in a flooded condition twice. If you check out the words 'world' and 'perish' in the manuscripts by using a Strong's Concordance, you will see that Noah's flood could not be the flood that ended the first age. All the races of people, the animals, and plant life survived Noah's flood, which means that the world age never perished. God did nothing after Noah's flood to reform the earth.

That leaves the flood between Gen. 1:1 and 1:2 as the flood that ended the first age. The reformation of the earth, referred to as the 6 days of creation in Gen. 1, is consistent with that which needed to be done by God after destroying the first age. If all life perished as stated in 2 Pet. 3:6, it would be necessary to remake it for the second age.

As for the day being 1000 years and a 1000 years a day speaks of God being timeless. I suggest that you stop trying to make scripture follow the laws of mans science and concentrate of scripture alone.

If you did your homework in the scriptures, you would know that I am correct.

2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord

as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day

.

With Strong's numbering -

2Pe 3:8 But,G1161 beloved,G27 be not ignorantG2990 G3361 of thisG5124 one thing,G1520 thatG3754 oneG3391 dayG2250 is withG3844 the LordG2962

asG5613

a thousandG5507 years,G2094 andG2532 a thousandG5507 yearsG2094

asG5613

oneG3391 day.G2250

If you are correct the word 'as', in the Greek, cannot be construed as a direct measure. Check it out in Strong's -

G5613

ὡς

hōs

hoce

Probably adverb of compound

from G3739

; which how, that is,

in that manner

(very variously used as shown): - about, after (that), (according) as (it had been, it were), as soon (as), even as (like), for, how (greatly), like (as, unto), since, so (that), that, to wit, unto, when ([-soever]), while, X with all speed.

Checking out the root word 'G3739' -

G3739

ὅς, ἥ, ὅ

hos hē ho

hos, hay, ho

Probably a primary word (or perhaps a form of the article G3588);

the relative (sometimes demonstrative) pronoun

, who, which, what, that: - one, (an-, the) other, some, that, what, which, who (-m, -se), etc. See also G3757.

Clearly, from the etymology of the word rendered as 'as', in Greek, gives a meaning of a demonstrative relationship. In other words, it is a formula relating one of God's days to mankind's years.

You can suggest all you like -- but, you are in error. It is a formula, as I have detailed previously and shown how such formula actually works.

Edited May 18, 2010 by Watchman_2

[Guest man]

Anyone with an education, or has seen or ridden in an automobile would know that the earth is much older than 6,000 years.

[Believer1997]

Anyone with an education, or has seen or ridden in an automobile would know that the earth is much older than 6,000 years.

Did they even have automobiles 6,000 years ago?

[hr.jr.]

Does Science Prove God Exists?

"I became a Christian at roughly the age of 13 or 14 and joined the First Baptist Church in Alabama," and at age 16, he became an atheist. "I decided that there was a real problem with this God stuff, that there was no convincing argument available to prove the existence of God."

Years later, the physicist came to believe again after discovering what he says is rock solid, scientific proof that God exists. "I follow science; it's always what I've done throughout my entire life."

Some Say Most Won't

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. Romans 1:16-17

What Do You Say?

I do not think God will allow anything to prove that He exists prior to the Second advent of Christ. Salvation is through Faith. If God revealed himself in a manner that positively proved his existence beyond any shadow of a doubt He would eliminate the need for faith in Him. God intentionally limits the way He reveals himself.

(In this example, I am speaking of God in the Triune.)

[Fez]

Anyone with an education, or has seen or ridden in an automobile would know that the earth is much older than 6,000 years.

Did they even have automobiles 6,000 years ago?

Yes they did, I still have one. A bit worse for wear, that big flood did some water damage, and wooden wheels are hard to find nowadays....

It's about Jesus people, not about time-lines, floods or accusing brothers and sisters of lack of scholarship. It's about Grace......

Be Blessed

He loves you.

[Guest man]

Anyone with an education, or has seen or ridden in an automobile would know that the earth is much older than 6,000 years.

Did they even have automobiles 6,000 years ago?

Yabba Dabba Doo.