Do You Know What Muslims teach in Mosques?

[Blien]

I know all of you here (or at least most of you) know that Islam is not a peace loving religion as the media proudly proclaims. So my question to you is, do you know what devote Muslims believe in? Do you know what their Koran teaches them about Christians and Jews?

I'm not trying to incite hatred here, so please don't share any remarks that will do that.

Just from an educational stand point I wanted to share the following. Many Muslims have been going on to "Lovers of Israel" facebook page and writing that Israelite are this and that. I really hate it because they sway the hearts of those who don't know anything about their religion except what the media tells them.

Look at what they recite on a regular basis about Christians and Jews from their Koran in Mosques. Surah means "chapter"... Koran is not a multi-book organization like the Bible. It's only one book with many chapters. I've provided a link to an online Koran to show you what I'm sharing is true.

Surah 5:51; 9:5

Take not the Jews and Christians as friends.. Slay the idolaters [non-Muslims] whenever ye find them besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.

http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/?Sura=9...p;Script=Usmani

Surah 9:29

Fight against such... as believe not in Allah..

http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/?Sura=9...p;Script=Usmani

Surah 3:28

Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers; if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah, except by way of prevention that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you to remember Himself for the final goal is to Allah.

http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/?Sura=3...p;Script=Usmani

Sura 8:67

“It is not fitting for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/?Sura=8...p;Script=Usmani

Furthermore, their "prophet" (who they don't even know if he is saved according to their religion) has this to say about the last days...

The last hour will not come before Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them.

-Muhammad

[georgedrw81]

Humans have the ability to turn usefull things into violent ends. We use these things as an excuse to harm others. The knife is a usefull tool which can and is used to kill other humans. Anything that turns into or incites violence is wrong. We should pray for those that do.

Blessings.

[MorningGlory]

I've never been in a mosque either but I HAVE read large parts of the Qu'ran. It's an eye opening experience and I recommend anyone who feels we should be 'tolerant' to do the same. The Lord does not require His own to lift up the minions of satan.

[Blien]

One of the silliest things they believe in is that Jesus (in their mind) is not the Son of God. Yet at the same time, their Koran tells them that Mary gave birth to Jesus as a virgin..... then who is His Father???? GOD OF COURSE!!

They have several passages from the Bible in the Koran but they've warped the text so much, that it's completely unreliable. Even the account they have of the birth of Jesus is completely wrong and warped.

[Guest KatyoneofHis]

I had the chance to take a class about islam in college this year and My teacher was a muslim. I believe he was super biased in many respects but here is how he explained it to us.

The majority of muslims (this doesn't include the radicals such as in suadi arabia, they do not represent the majority) Are a peace loving people who believe in one God, Allah, which is the same God we christians worship. They however deny Jesus as Gods son and as our savior.

The beliefs of Islam are centered on 5 "pillars" or central ideas. They are:

1. fasting durring the month of ramadan, (they fast to remind themselves of the suffereing in the world)

2.almsgiving (they give 2 percent of their income ot hte poor/needy),

3. prayer (five times a day, and they must cleanse before washing),

4.professing the "oneness" of God and completely submiting to him,

5.The Hajj which is the pilgrimage to mecca.

He says that Muslims are SUPPOSED to proctect all monthesistic religions with a book (aka muslims, christains, and jews).

I do think that the majority of muslims are peaceful people, it's the radicals that give them a bad name. They are, however, lacking in the most terrible way because of their denial of Jesus Christ. They openly say it in their fivetimes daily prayer.

If you have any specific questions I'll try to answer if I can.

[Guest]

....The last hour will not come before Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them. -Muhammad

False Prophets Like Muhammad Are Often Half Right

For Jerusalem is ruined, and Judah is fallen: because their tongue and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of his glory. Isaiah 3:8

But All Wrong

And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. Zechariah 12:9

Not Knowing The God Of Abrahan, Isaac And Jacob

For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me.

Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. Zechariah 2:8-10

Nor Believing The Clear Words

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10-11

Of His Salvation

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18

They Starve

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

To Eternal Death

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:35-36

[Blien]

I had the chance to take a class about islam in college this year and My teacher was a muslim. I believe he was super biased in many respects but here is how he explained it to us.

The majority of muslims (this doesn't include the radicals such as in suadi arabia, they do not represent the majority) Are a peace loving people who believe in one God, Allah, which is the same God we christians worship. They however deny Jesus as Gods son and as our savior.

The beliefs of Islam are centered on 5 "pillars" or central ideas. They are:

1. fasting durring the month of ramadan, (they fast to remind themselves of the suffereing in the world)

2.almsgiving (they give 2 percent of their income ot hte poor/needy),

3. prayer (five times a day, and they must cleanse before washing),

4.professing the "oneness" of God and completely submiting to him,

5.The Hajj which is the pilgrimage to mecca.

He says that Muslims are SUPPOSED to proctect all monthesistic religions with a book (aka muslims, christains, and jews).

I do think that the majority of muslims are peaceful people, it's the radicals that give them a bad name. They are, however, lacking in the most terrible way because of their denial of Jesus Christ. They openly say it in their fivetimes daily prayer.

If you have any specific questions I'll try to answer if I can.

Here's a specific question for you. Are you a Christian or Muslim? And why did you avoid my original post with this diplomatic one that we've all heard so many times on the news?

If Islam is a peace loving religion, explain to me how the Koran teaches that Muslims should kill all Christians and Jews? Peace only if Islam is the dominate religion, that's what it teaches. Please don't mask it with diplomatic answers like this.. I have more to share about Islam to prove that what you said is false and a deception.

[fromIslam2Christ]

Point of correction:

The verse you quoted translates (kafirun) non-Muslims, which is incorrect. In Arabic, kafirun means "those who deny what is truth" and refers throughout the Quran to the Meccan polytheist. Jews and Christians are called "ahl-al-kitab" (people of the Book). Muslims are not authorized to kill them or prevent them from living in peace, except in self-defense as they were recipients of God's revelation.

I just wanted to clear this up, as many do not know Islamic jurisprudence on the treatment of Jews and Christians.

To answer your question about what Muslims teach in mosques, it varies from one mosque to the other. Just as Christianity has different denominations and variations on political/social leanings, Muslims are a very diverse grou^p of people.

We can discern three main trends in Islamic movements (contemporary 21st century):

- the reformist/salafi : these are the more radical ones that promote a literal interpretation of the Quran as well as a return to a pure "authentic" Islam. This group may or may not aslo aspire to an islamic state. They are a small minority and are considered with suspicion by other muslims. They are howvewr moore vocal in the media ( or rather the media likes to put them in the forefront of the news since it relates to violent events in the middle east)

- the traditional/popular muslims: these are the majority of Muslims aroudn the world (95%). This trend is representative of what Islam has been historically before the 18th and 19th and 20th century reformist/salafi/wahabbi radical and politicized movement. In this trend we find the mystics and an Islam that culturally adjusted to local traditions and social organizations. This trend throughout history has been very tolerant of other religions and has even happily incorp

[Blien]

Point of correction:

The verse you quoted translates (kafirun) non-Muslims, which is incorrect. In Arabic, kafirun means "those who deny what is truth" and refers throughout the Quran to the Meccan polytheist. Jews and Christians are called "ahl-al-kitab" (people of the Book). Muslims are not authorized to kill them or prevent them from living in peace, except in self-defense as they were recipients of God's revelation.

I just wanted to clear this up, as many do not know Islamic jurisprudence on the treatment of Jews and Christians.

Well you've explained the first verse I shared, what about the rest? Such as this one?

Surah 9:29

Fight against those who believe not in All

[fromIslam2Christ]

Right.

There are many contradictory verses in Quran about the People of the Book (Jews and Christians). Each verse corresponds to a specific period in Muhammad's life: the period when he thought Jews and Christians would crown him prophet; the period when he realized that Jews and Christians were not accepting his self-proclaimed legitimacy. The verse you just quoted is from the second period. The Quran, when studied in relations to Muhammad,s life really reflects the whims and moods of the man and his own personal and political issues... each time he felt rejected or had a disagreement with a group of people, "God" conveniently revealed a verse against them on that same day.

So if you want to show the great "peace record" of Islam, I suggest you present people with the history and the life of their own prophet. because if you use the Quran, it always gets explained away.

In fact, the historical massacres of innocent men, women, and children, as well as the capture of Christian and Jewish women to be turned into slave-concubines are enough proof to defeat the Islamic law argument. There is so much cruelty in Muhammad and his friends that I can't even begin to talk about it here. His early Muslim biographers all mention the horrors and wickedness of the prophet and his companions in detail. And that is what most Muslims dont know about. They keep thinking their prophet was a holy and loving man.

The Quran is filled with contradictions so that is obviously not where the teachings in the mosques come from at all. Just to clarify based on your question about the content of mosque sermons.