Rock Stars

[alecia]

Well.. hum.

Rock stars are indeed talented, yes.. but, they are also backed up by producers and marketers, which tell them what is in, whats cutting egde.. what people are into. The producers often get them to write songs that appeal to specific demographics they are shooting for at the time..

But, anyways.. As far as Im concerned, Kobain didnt kill himself, Courtney had him murdered. He wanted to get out of the music business, but she wanted him to keep making lots of money for her.. but if he was leaving the business, he was worth more to her dead than alive. Theres evidence that points to it.. like, on the shotgun that he supposedly used, there were no fingerprints. Dead men dont wipe fingerprints off of guns...

[dwinkjr]

believe it or not, yes, nirvana is still quite popular. it's like the rocky horror picture show... the cult following just keeps growing and growing. both my daughters are crazy about nirvanah.

oh, where DID i go wrong? 

You didn't go wrong anywhere.

Why do you think they are bad children for listening to Nirvana?

I would have to agree with Bodhi here, Most of Nirvanas songs although of a secular nature, are not against God and have some great meaning to them.

btw... Whether Kurt actually killed himself is still in dispute, he was planning on leaving Nirvana around the time of his death and his wifey wasn't too happy about her Prize stallion going lame :x:

God Bless,

Dave

[dwinkjr]

The only people who listen to them are christians because they feel that's the only thing they should be listening to. Let me rephrase that. The reason they're not successful in the REAL music industry.

Agnostic,

You may wanna check your sources again. Many Christian Bands are breaking into the mainstream music industry now.

Switchfoot

The Calling

MercyMe (getting alot of radio time as of late)

POD

Just to name a few.

And many of the "secular" bands have Christian members.

God Bless,

Dave

[Guest Called]

Psalm 37:1-4

Don't worry about the wicked.

Don't envy those who do wrong.

For like grass, they soon fade away.

Like springtime flowers, they soon wither

Trust in the LORD and do good.

Then you will live safely in the land and prosper.

Take delight in the LORD,

and he will give you your heart's desires.

[Guest LadyC]

Lady C: There is plenty of variation in different genres, you are just unaware of them. You are taking your opinions from mainstream music. You are no better than people who hate christians based on the perception of a few crazy fundamentalists.

I would have to agree with Bodhi here, Most of Nirvanas songs although of a secular nature, are not against God and have some great meaning to them.

You didn't go wrong anywhere.

Why do you think they are bad children for listening to Nirvana?

1. i said i didn't know about bob marley.

2. kurt cobain was a "sex symbol" in the eyes of millions of teenagers, both male and female.

3. his sexual antics with and without courtney love were more talked about than even his music, though maybe not by much. i managed a pool hall during the height of nirvana's popularity, and a large percentage of our clientelle were teens and young adults, and i never heard a conversation about nirvana and kurt that did not include sex. lyrics don't have to be sexual in nature for a person to be 'selling sex' to the masses.

4. i am very familiar with music in general, mainstream and underground. don't make assumptions about people. my personal taste in music covers a broad spectrum, and includes bands that the majority of the world has never heard of. the musical taste of my daughters covers the rest of the spectrum, also including underground bands, many of whom gained popularity among the deep ellum crowds of dallas where i used to hang out, and where my oldest daughter now prefers spending her time.

5.

I DID NOT SAY MY KIDS ARE "BAD".

to the contrary, i'm very proud of both my girls, despite their questionable taste in music, and their secular lifestyle that rejects Godliness.

[Guest kitkat]

I've been reading this thread and I can think of two rock groups and I'm sure there are more, that reflect sexuality and that's Aerosmith and Bon Jovi. Whether or not Bon Jovi's song lyrics reflect sexuality or not, John certainly does. He's a sex symbol and the girls go wild for him.

Kat

[senerhu]

btw... Whether Kurt actually killed himself is still in dispute, he was planning on leaving Nirvana around the time of his death and his wifey wasn't too happy about her Prize stallion going lame :x:

God Bless,

Dave

The point is Cobain died at an early age, regardless of what or who caused his death. He died at the age of 27 like so many other rock stars have, Morrison, Joplin, Hendrix. They all died before their time, because of their lifestyle and the rocky road that rock music stars follow using drugs, etc. Rock stars don't have God's protection on their life. Christian groups have God's protection on their lives. I haven't heard of any Christian music artists dying at the age of 27...

[Guest Gladiator4God]

I dont listen to that much Christian music but i do know they are the largest growing section of the music industry, i do like it though

i have hung out with a few rockers in my day and i would like to say what you see on stage inst what the person is like at all........remember most of them are "acts"

[Guest kitkat]

Sometimes some of the sinful and wicked DO prosper and go unpunished.

For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked... They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men... Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish. They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily... Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches. - Psa 73:3-12

The prosperity of the wicked seals their destruction

Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end. Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction. How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors. - Psa 73:17-19

Sometimes, those whom God wants to destroy, He leaves them alone.

The wicked who go unpunished on this side of the grave will be punished on the other side. In death, all wrongs will be made right.

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption... - Gal 6:7-8

There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores... And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am torment in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. - Lk 16:19-25

[dwinkjr]

Lady C: There is plenty of variation in different genres, you are just unaware of them. You are taking your opinions from mainstream music. You are no better than people who hate christians based on the perception of a few crazy fundamentalists.

I would have to agree with Bodhi here, Most of Nirvanas songs although of a secular nature, are not against God and have some great meaning to them.

You didn't go wrong anywhere.

Why do you think they are bad children for listening to Nirvana?

1. i said i didn't know about bob marley.

2. kurt cobain was a "sex symbol" in the eyes of millions of teenagers, both male and female.

3. his sexual antics with and without courtney love were more talked about than even his music, though maybe not by much. i managed a pool hall during the height of nirvana's popularity, and a large percentage of our clientelle were teens and young adults, and i never heard a conversation about nirvana and kurt that did not include sex. lyrics don't have to be sexual in nature for a person to be 'selling sex' to the masses.

4. i am very familiar with music in general, mainstream and underground. don't make assumptions about people. my personal taste in music covers a broad spectrum, and includes bands that the majority of the world has never heard of. the musical taste of my daughters covers the rest of the spectrum, also including underground bands, many of whom gained popularity among the deep ellum crowds of dallas where i used to hang out, and where my oldest daughter now prefers spending her time.

5.

I DID NOT SAY MY KIDS ARE "BAD".

to the contrary, i'm very proud of both my girls, despite their questionable taste in music, and their secular lifestyle that rejects Godliness.

Sorry LadyC I was not agreeing with BOdhi first statement to you, the only thing I agreed to was what I quoted and that was his opinion on Nirvana, And I am talking about there music, Not Kurt's Image. I didn't think there still was an image of him anymore? I donot myself any longer listen to Nirvana, but as i said most of there music is good and has good meaning, although they were still a secular Group.

God Bless,

Dave