James 4:9

[jeffnevins]

Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.

I like the verses before & after as well- draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, and purify your hearts. And humble yourself before Him, and he will lift you up.

v9 is at all times, though? I've been mourning & weeping much of the past three months due to some pain, and have been praying a lot, but was curious. Thanks.

[Guest]

My tears have been my meat day and night, while they continually say unto me, Where is thy God? Psalms 42:3

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Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and you joy to heaviness.

I like the verses before & after as well- draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, and purify your hearts. And humble yourself before Him, and he will lift you up.

v9 is at all times, though? I've been mourning & weeping much of the past three months due to some pain, and have been praying a lot, but was curious. Thanks.

At Times

I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed to swim; I water my couch with my tears. Psalms 6:6

I Too Weep

Lord, all my desire is before thee; and my groaning is not hid from thee. Psalms 38:9

And Drop By Drop

For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. Romans 8:22-23

The Tears Are Tallied By Abba Daddy

Thou tellest my wanderings: put thou my tears into thy bottle: are they not in thy book? Psalms 56:8

Yet The Tears Still Flow

Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Romans 8:26

As We Weep

They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.

He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him. Psalms 126:5-6

But

For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning. Psalms 30:5)

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The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. Zephaniah 3:17

God Is Good

As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. Psalms 42:1

[Joshua-777]

Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and you joy to heaviness.

I like the verses before & after as well- draw nigh to God, and He will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, and purify your hearts. And humble yourself before Him, and he will lift you up.

v9 is at all times, though? I've been mourning & weeping much of the past three months due to some pain, and have been praying a lot, but was curious. Thanks.

Verse 9 I believe is a rebuke, if You look at the beginning of this chapter it shows that this was members of the church disputing and causing many fights, and falling in the world.

James 4:1-4

1 What is causing all the quarrels and fights among you? Isn't it your desires battling inside you? 2 You desire things and don't have them. You kill, and you are jealous, and you still can't get them. So you fight and quarrel. The reason you don't have is that you don't pray! 3 Or you pray and don't receive, because you pray with the wrong motive, that of wanting to indulge your own desires. 4 You unfaithful wives! Don't you know that loving the world is hating God? Whoever chooses to be the world's friend makes himself God's enemy!

Verse 9 is a conclusion to this lifestyle. We are called to be in Spirit, those in the world are called to repentance. We cannot be in the world and in Jesus. He calls us to be Holy as He is Holy, These people where not letting go the things of the world, This letter makes it clear that a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

James 4:8-9

8 Come close to God, and he will come close to you. Clean your hands, sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded people! 9 Wail, mourn, sob! Let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy into gloom!

I have learned in Christ, We share in His cup of suffering, and His cup of joy, but let all things be for His glory.

[jeffnevins]

Thanks for the responses, including Joe's choices of scripture.

[Psalm3720]

You always got to keep in mind who is being addressed in any message and the context of that address. This thread contains an excellent analysis of that principal of study. The Epistles are divinely letters, not sweeping statements in the vein of the Old Testament.

Edited November 19, 2010 by Psalm3720

[Jayyycuuup]

Well just because you pray and ask god to heal you it dosent mean that he will heal you... Because do you accually belive that god will heal you? You have to belive with your heart that he will heal you. So keep praying and keep asking for gods grace,it will come.