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What are you stupid? That will just make them laugh when they kill you rather then just killing you!

Trinity, your post just brought the thought to me that maybe this question is so basic and the answer is so simple that He (Jesus) didn't think maybe we really needed scripture to tell us what is built into us from the very beginning.

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I might add to all and not just Trinity, that here in Oklahoma you can not use deadly force in protecting your property, only in protecting life, and then if there was a chance to do something else you could still be liable for your actions. (Example: if someone is breaking into your house and you are by yourself and you could slip out a back window but chose to confront a person breaking into your house, you would be at the mercy of the prosecuting attorney as to whether charges are filed)

So, at least here you should be very sure that there is no other way but to kill to protect your and your family's very life, or you could be in trouble, and it is not OK to kill over property. This is also the rules for all our law enforcement people as has been told to me by both sheriff's office people and our Highway Patrol Officers.

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Thats what i mean if there is no other way tehe im not say just go up and kill them, all im saying is if there is no other way.

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In a "kill or be killed" situation..... I'd definitely stand up and do whatever it took to defend my family! :huh:

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What are you stupid? That will just make them laugh when they kill you rather then just killing you!

Trinity, your post just brought the thought to me that maybe this question is so basic and the answer is so simple that He (Jesus) didn't think maybe we really needed scripture to tell us what is built into us from the very beginning.

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I might add to all and not just Trinity, that here in Oklahoma you can not use deadly force in protecting your property, only in protecting life, and then if there was a chance to do something else you could still be liable for your actions. (Example: if someone is breaking into your house and you are by yourself and you could slip out a back window but chose to confront a person breaking into your house, you would be at the mercy of the prosecuting attorney as to whether charges are filed)

So, at least here you should be very sure that there is no other way but to kill to protect your and your family's very life, or you could be in trouble, and it is not OK to kill over property. This is also the rules for all our law enforcement people as has been told to me by both sheriff's office people and our Highway Patrol Officers.

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When in the middle of an attack do you have time to evaluate the situation? How does one in an emergency determine if the person breaking into your house only wants your jewelry or is bent upon killing you or a member of your family?

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True story...A man was walking late at night when he noticed three men coming toward him from out of the shadows. He stopped and the three told him to give them all his money. One had a knife. The man said, "I belong to Jesus Christ and the evil one cannot touch me."(1John 5:8) The 3 said, "What did you say?" and he repeted, "I belong to Jesus Christ and the evil one cannot touch me." The robbers laughed and said "give me your credit cards too.

What are you stupid? That will just make them laugh when they kill you rather then just killing you!

You are being RELIGIOUSLY stupid! That will not work. God gave you a resposability, that is to watch over your familys life.

Trinity, I rewrote the story...don't quote me as being one who won't defend his family...engage brain before you quote... :huh::):):o

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-In a "kill or be killed" situation..... I'd definitely stand up and do whatever it took to defend my family!- :huh:

-YOU GOT THAT RIGHT SISTER of mine- :):) YUPP-& that INTRUDER into my home is considered:BY ME!!} as a definite apparant--immediate- THREAT to ME--MY WIFE--MY--CHILDREN--GRAND-CHILDREN--& GREAT-GRANDSON-----

-Soooooo-he--her--them--it---Better be praying because he--she--them--they--it are gonna Immediately be "Meeting"their creator & final-JUDGE--Post-Haste &

-ab-so-pos-a-tivily----as in RIGHT-NOW-- & ANY DISTRICT-ATTORNEY THAT DESIRES TO TRY ME FOR THE "CRIME"of SELF-DEFENSE IS GONNA BE JOINING THOSE--THEM--IT--HER--HE--SHE----POST-HASTE & IMMEDIATELY!! :o;);)

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Now brothers and sisters, I have to say this... I have been thinking about LarryT's position on this all morning, and this is what I have come up with.

Some religions, such as Quakers, do not believe in violence of any sort under any conditions. They take the Scriptures literally as to 'turning the other cheek'.

If their family CONCURS with that belief, then I think it is between them and God if something happens to them becasue of that belief.

But if the head of the household feels that under no circumstance would he protect his family, and the family does not concur with that belief, then that is wrong. The head of the household, then, is not providing for the family, and protection is certainly one of the things he needs to provide.... :huh:

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What are you stupid? That will just make them laugh when they kill you rather then just killing you!

Trinity, your post just brought the thought to me that maybe this question is so basic and the answer is so simple that He (Jesus) didn't think maybe we really needed scripture to tell us what is built into us from the very beginning.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I might add to all and not just Trinity, that here in Oklahoma you can not use deadly force in protecting your property, only in protecting life, and then if there was a chance to do something else you could still be liable for your actions. (Example: if someone is breaking into your house and you are by yourself and you could slip out a back window but chose to confront a person breaking into your house, you would be at the mercy of the prosecuting attorney as to whether charges are filed)

So, at least here you should be very sure that there is no other way but to kill to protect your and your family's very life, or you could be in trouble, and it is not OK to kill over property. This is also the rules for all our law enforcement people as has been told to me by both sheriff's office people and our Highway Patrol Officers.

Sam

Sam

Sam, we live in Oklahoma too, and that is not exactly right...:huh:

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Now brothers, I have to say this... I have been thinking about LarryT's position on this all morning, and this is what I have come up with.

Some religions, such as Quakers, do not believe in violence of any sort under any conditions. They take the Scriptures literally as to 'turning the other cheek'.

If their family CONCURS with that belief, then I think it is between them and God if something happens to them becasue of that belief.

But if the head of the household feels that under no circumstance would he protect his family, and the family does not concur with that belief, then that is wrong. The head of the household, then, is not providing for the family, and protection is certainly one of the things he needs to provide.... :)

I agree completely! :huh::) I would only add that taking the admonition from the Lord literally means to apply within its proper cultural context. To take this literally means to resist the urge to repay insult for insult.

To apply this admonition to physical violence would be to take it nonliterally, and apply outside of its intended meaning.

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-The head of the household, then, is not providing for the family, and protection is certainly one of the things he needs to provide.... 

-RIGHT---& that is covered in the Scriptures---As provided already--but Again:

 

-Luke 22:vs.36-------

-Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and

-likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy

-one. 

--1st.Timothy.5:vs.8------

-But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he

-hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. 

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-engage brain before you quote... :huh:  :)  :)     

-BRAIN??BRAIN??-WE AIN'T GOTTA SHOW YAS NO STINKIN BRAINS- :o;)

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