John 16:13

[nebula]

I have always taken note that the Apostle Paul was away with the L-rd for 14 years before truly re-emerging on the scene, and his testimony was that He was not taught by man. Probably some of the main hinderances to being whole-hearted given over to the guidence of the Holy Spirit, come from the teachings of man.

Perspective - Paul was raised under the teaching of the Torah, though, as a devout Pharisee, before this time. So it is incorrect to portray his knowledge of Scripture as having been void of human teaching.

A lot of people have come through this Board with some strange doctrines and strange priorities in what they chose to converse on who claimed having been taught by the Holy Spirit and not from man.

Sorry Neb, only just saw this reply from about a month ago.

Thank-you for the clarification of what you meant.

Unfortunately, I do not see in your explanation an answer for people who claim their strange doctrines having come from "what the Holy Spirit taught me," using the above as their justification.

[nebula]

I have always taken note that the Apostle Paul was away with the L-rd for 14 years before truly re-emerging on the scene, and his testimony was that He was not taught by man. Probably some of the main hinderances to being whole-hearted given over to the guidence of the Holy Spirit, come from the teachings of man.

Perspective - Paul was raised under the teaching of the Torah, though, as a devout Pharisee, before this time. So it is incorrect to portray his knowledge of Scripture as having been void of human teaching.

A lot of people have come through this Board with some strange doctrines and strange priorities in what they chose to converse on who claimed having been taught by the Holy Spirit and not from man.

Jesus is the Christ.

Paul was not raised under the teaching of the Torah, Saul was.

Paul said that his teaching did not come from man.

Looking at Paul, as still being Saul, seems to be how you came to the above false conclusion.

They were different men. Saul the old. Paul the new.

Having had a similar born again experience, I fully believe what Paul said about the writings of Paul. 1 cor 14:37-38

Praise the Lord!

I don't think you can really draw those conclusions J+1...As a Roman citizen, Paul was his given name, as a Jew, Saul was his Jewish name....he is still referred to as Saul on occassion when he had believed on Jesus, but it seems it was more expedient as his ministry was largely to the Gentiles that he was known by his Gentile name Paul....it probably also opened up more doors for him in the places that he went.

True.

Notice in the recordings in Acts as to when Saul began being addressed as Paul, and notice what it says, and what it does not say about that.

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I have always taken note that the Apostle Paul was away with the L-rd for 14 years before truly re-emerging on the scene, and his testimony was that He was not taught by man. Probably some of the main hinderances to being whole-hearted given over to the guidence of the Holy Spirit, come from the teachings of man.

Perspective - Paul was raised under the teaching of the Torah, though, as a devout Pharisee, before this time. So it is incorrect to portray his knowledge of Scripture as having been void of human teaching.

A lot of people have come through this Board with some strange doctrines and strange priorities in what they chose to converse on who claimed having been taught by the Holy Spirit and not from man.

Sorry Neb, only just saw this reply from about a month ago.

Thank-you for the clarification of what you meant.

Unfortunately, I do not see in your explanation an answer for people who claim their strange doctrines having come from "what the Holy Spirit taught me," using the above as their justification.

A View Point

The same came therefore to Philip, which was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and desired him, saying, Sir, we would see Jesus. John 12;21

If It Points One Toward Jesus It Is Good

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39

If It Points One Points Away From Jesus It Is Bad

All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weigheth the spirits. Proverbs 16:2

A View Point

[Botz]

I have always taken note that the Apostle Paul was away with the L-rd for 14 years before truly re-emerging on the scene, and his testimony was that He was not taught by man. Probably some of the main hinderances to being whole-hearted given over to the guidence of the Holy Spirit, come from the teachings of man.

Perspective - Paul was raised under the teaching of the Torah, though, as a devout Pharisee, before this time. So it is incorrect to portray his knowledge of Scripture as having been void of human teaching.

A lot of people have come through this Board with some strange doctrines and strange priorities in what they chose to converse on who claimed having been taught by the Holy Spirit and not from man.

Sorry Neb, only just saw this reply from about a month ago.

Thank-you for the clarification of what you meant.

Unfortunately, I do not see in your explanation an answer for people who claim their strange doctrines having come from "what the Holy Spirit taught me," using the above as their justification.

Aha...I see the point you are trying to make.

Paul 'claimed' to have got his REVELATION from G-d, and because He was an obedient servant, He submitted himself to the authority of the Apostles, so that they could test/see whether his DOCTRINE was true.

If someone 'claims' special revelation from G-d, then we should expect they will emulate Paul, not just in claiming revelation, but in a spirit of humility having it checked out. So if anyone should use that passage as justification, then any 'strange doctrines' will not get off the ground very easily. Hope that explains things.

Galatians 2:1 Then after an interval of fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking Titus along also. 2 It was because of a revelation that I went up; and I submitted to them the gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but I did so in private to those who were of reputation, for fear that I might be running, or had run, in vain.

[nebula]

Thanks, Botz!

That was good insight.