can a christian smoke...??

[Guest Gladiator4God]

Mmmmmmmmmmmm a lil whip cream next time please

[Guest shadow2b]

-? What would Jesus say about this waste of funds that otherwise could go to evangelism, missionary work or the needy? Should a smoking believer even pray for God's financial blessings? Most probably the smoking believer causes a curse to come upon his or her finances.

-JOHN.12:vss.3.Thru.6---

-Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the

-feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the

-odour of the ointment. Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's

-[son], which should betray him, Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred

-pence, and given to the poor? This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but

-because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

[Guest koppen]

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Edited September 14, 2004 by koppen

[Guest koppen]

I watched my husbands uncle die a very painful and slow death from cigarettes ... My husband smokes but not around me or the kids... It's not good to smoke around children..Their little lungs can't take it.. My brother and sister inlaw smoke like trains as their kids grew upina closed car..I used to get made because the kids always were coughing and noses running... Anyways... I know my opinion doesn't much here but I thought I would say my part...LOl

Oh! I refuse to kiss my hubby after he has smoked a cig..i make him go brush his teeth and rinse his mouth out with Listerine! YUCK! POO!

and to add this.....

**Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, so be careful what we put in our bodies.

**Smoking is an addiction and Christians are to guard against addictions.

**Smoking has many harmful effects and can often lead to other addictions.

These are all rational arguments. Another common argument to add to that list is that God provides our finances and we are told to use them carefully.

All of these arguments are well and good, but they all have other sides to them. Yes, our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, but how much worse is it to put smoke (and all it carries with it) into our bodies than it is to gorge ourselves on junk food? Judging by the lineup at the coffee table on Sunday mornings I would say that there are far more Christians addicted to caffeine than there are to nicotine. Sure smoking has lots of harmful effects, but so does overeating or eating the wrong things. God provides us money, but how often do we use it to buy things we don't really need?

I guess it seems to me that the arguments used against smoking are usually quite inconsistent. I see the logic behind them, but those same principles seem to fail when they are extended to the rest of the Christian life.

I hate smoking. I hate the smell of it and I especially hate seeing cigarette butts lying on the ground outside buildings. But I don't presume to think that I can tell the first thing about a person's spiritual condition by the fact that they smoke.

God Bless!

NO PIES PLEASE!! LOL LOL LOL

[senerhu]

Not judging, just the facts.

Historically the calumet was considered a sacred pipe to offer smoke to the demon gods above and below. Tobacco was looked upon as a sacred plant and burning it brought favor in the eyes of the gods (demons). Even a member of an enemy tribe who entered a house and smoked with the host, was guaranteed protection and safe conduct when he left.

Several Indian tribes burned incense for a purifying medium or an acceptable offering to the unseen. Some eastern tribes did not smoke a pipe in a sacred ceremony but burned tobacco in a small fire. This smoke offering was believed to ascend to the power to whom they prayed.

As the use of tobacco as an offering to gods continued, it was rolled in corn husks, the predecessors of modern cigars and cigarettes. Inhaling the smoke was incorporated into the rituals and both the smoke and the aroma continued to have a serious place in the religious rituals and ceremonies.

History reference books also state the tobacco pipe was used by American Indians in ceremonies to ratify treaties. Also, some Indians smoked the tobacco pipes to their sun-god and blew the smoke to him. Indians related many sources of illnesses to "witches who flew through the air disguised as owls to poison their victims". The protective practice against these witches was to cut their limbs and cleanse themselves of bad blood; and the use of "the old man's tobacco" was to avert spirits of the dead.

These are processes of witchcraft prohibited by God.

Ga 6:7

[Guest Kandi]

Sen

You guys sure have some wonderful graphics that I am sucking up like

The award for the Indians cullture :x:

Edited September 14, 2004 by Kandi

[Guest shadow2b]

- (the way God sees it) cigarette smoking is "burning incense to other (demon) gods". II Kings 22:17, II Kings 23:5; II Chronicles 28:25, 34:24, 34:25; Jeremiah 1:16, 7:9, 11:12, 19:4; Chapter 44, 48:35.

-AND JUST HOW DID YOU COME TO THIS MONUMENTAL-ASSESSMENT THAT "YOU-KNOW-HOW-GOD-LOOKS-AT--SMOKING??"IS smoking mentioned in the Bible??-And OF course YOU are More than Qualified to Conclude & State "THIS"is the way "GOD-LOOKS-AT-SMOKING"--Absolutely!!--Positively!!& WE can ALL take Your Word for that statement as Right-Straight-From GOD'S MOUTH to Your EAR??RIGHT??- -------------------------------- --{vog?}-repackaged?-updated?-new-information from on high?-----I----Reckon??

[Guest shadow2b]

-awwwwww--That ain't Fair Bro. I had a couple I were considering NOW you dunn went & Gotz ta use it furst----BUT It was a WELL-DESERVED-Presentation~~

- :hug: --IF I had A "Good-Trophy"to give---- YOU would get it Bro. --kinda like the "Heisman"?---"The Lombardi-Trophy-for the Super-bowl"?-

[senerhu]

-awwwwww--That ain't Fair Bro. I had a couple I were considering NOW you dunn went & Gotz ta use it furst----BUT It was a WELL-DESERVED-Presentation~~

-       :hug: --IF I had A "Good-Trophy"to give---- YOU would get it Bro. --kinda like the "Heisman"?---"The Lombardi-Trophy-for the Super-bowl"?-

This one wern't hard....So much to do, so little time....

I'm with ya partner, you n me....

[Guest Kandi]

In spite of all the shooting, I'm sticking to my guns - smoking is so trivial as far as being Christian is concerned that it isn't worth the smoke going up talking about it.

Non-smokers fall in love and marry smokers. I wonder why.