OneLight Posted September 7, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 7, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? I see your group needs changing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Forever Posted September 7, 2011 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 49 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/24/1986 Share Posted September 7, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? I see your group needs changing.... Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. I believe in this statement with every part of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 7, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,166 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,890 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 7, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? I see your group needs changing.... Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. I believe in this statement with every part of me. Who is the Lord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted September 7, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 7, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? I see your group needs changing.... Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. I believe in this statement with every part of me. Who is Jesus to you? Is He God? Or, is He a prophet of Allah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nChrist Posted September 8, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 438 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,947 Content Per Day: 0.54 Reputation: 300 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/28/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/18/1949 Share Posted September 8, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? Allah does NOTHING. Almighty God is the Creator and Giver of Life, and His Name is not Allah. Almighty God is a Holy Trinity: 1 - God The Father, 2 - God The Son (Jesus Christ), 3 - God The Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost) - yet the Three are One - Eternal. The Godhead - Also Known As The Holy Trinity God The Father - 1st Person Of The Holy Trinity God The Son (Jesus Christ, The Word) - 2nd Person Of The Holy Trinity God The Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost) - 3rd Person Of The Holy Trinity Three Unique Personages Of God - Yet One John 1:1-3 KJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:1-3 AMP IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word (Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself. [isa. 9:6.] 2 He was present originally with God. 3 All things were made and came into existence through Him; and without Him was not even one thing made that has come into being. __________ John 1:14 KJV And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:14 AMP And the Word (Christ) became flesh (human, incarnate) and tabernacled (fixed His tent of flesh, lived awhile) among us; and we [actually] saw His glory (His honor, His majesty), such glory as an only begotten son receives from his father, full of grace (favor, loving-kindness) and truth. [isa. 40:5.] __________ John 14:6-7 KJV Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. John 14:6-7 AMP Jesus said to him, I am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by (through) Me. 7 If you had known Me [had learned to recognize Me], you would also have known My Father. From now on, you know Him and have seen Him. __________ Philippians 2:5-11 KJV Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:5-11 AMP Let this same attitude and purpose and [humble] mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus: [Let Him be your example in humility:] 6 Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained, 7 But stripped Himself [of all privileges and rightful dignity], so as to assume the guise of a servant (slave), in that He became like men and was born a human being. 8 And after He had appeared in human form, He abased and humbled Himself [still further] and carried His obedience to the extreme of death, even the death of the cross! 9 Therefore [because He stooped so low] God has highly exalted Him and has freely bestowed on Him the name that is above every name, 10 That in (at) the name of Jesus every knee should (must) bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 And every tongue [frankly and openly] confess and acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. __________ 1 John 5:7 KJV For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7 AMP So there are three witnesses in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are One; __________ Jesus Christ was and is God - One with God The Father and God The Holy Spirit. The Godhead (Holy Trinity) is Eternal with no beginning and no ending. The Godhead (Holy Trinity) is the Creator - not the created. This is an unquestioned fact stated many ways in the Holy Bible - God's Word. The only way to dispute this basic Bible Fact is to use a book other than the Holy Bible. Those who do reject God and are unbelievers. Further, God rejects them. __________ Matthew 10:32-33 KJV Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 10:32-33 AMP Therefore, everyone who acknowledges Me before men and confesses Me [out of a state of oneness with Me], I will also acknowledge him before My Father Who is in heaven and confess [that I am abiding in] him. 33 But whoever denies and disowns Me before men, I also will deny and disown him before My Father Who is in heaven. 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Happy Forever Posted September 8, 2011 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 49 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/24/1986 Share Posted September 8, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? I see your group needs changing.... Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. I believe in this statement with every part of me. Who is the Lord? The Lord is The One The Creator of the heavens and the earth. The Lord is Who created you and me brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 8, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,166 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,890 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 8, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? I see your group needs changing.... Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. I believe in this statement with every part of me. Who is the Lord? The Lord is The One The Creator of the heavens and the earth. The Lord is Who created you and me brother. The Bible tells me that everything came from the Father....... but it came through Jesus when he was in the form of God before he sat that aside and became flesh. So, what you post does not really match up with what I read out of the Word. So I have to ask, "Is Jesus your Lord?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Forever Posted September 8, 2011 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 49 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/24/1986 Share Posted September 8, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? I see your group needs changing.... Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. I believe in this statement with every part of me. Who is Jesus to you? Is He God? Or, is He a prophet of Allah? Jesus is not a name of The God and can't be. The God is The One The Creator not a creature, there is nothing as His similarity and He is The All Hearing, The All Seeing. Jesus is the messenger of Allah, a slave to Allah as we all are His slaves and His creation. "At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). they said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! (27) "O sister of Aaron! thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" (28) But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" (29) He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; (30) "And He hath made me Blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; (31) " [19:27/31] Quran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Forever Posted September 8, 2011 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 49 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/24/1986 Share Posted September 8, 2011 This has been bothering me alot lately. If God numbers our days and sets the time for our deaths, does that mean God meant for aborted children to die when they did? If so, for what purpose? Thanx in advance! There is no if, it is the truth, brother. He is The Giver of life and its Taker. He sets the time of our birth and the time of our death. Allah takes life of any creature He wants at any time He wills. He is Its Giver and He is Its Taker and no one dares to juge Him. Allah takes the life of fetus and babies not a punishment from them as death is not punishment, it is from His mercy to cause them die pure before committing any sin and in the after life their residence is Paradise. Who suffers from the death of fetus? Fetus or their parents and family? Their death is a test and lesson to the parents to see how they are patient and how they ask Him to compensate them and will they say "We are Allah's and to Him is our return". Life is a big test, who will pass? I see your group needs changing.... Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. I believe in this statement with every part of me. Who is the Lord? The Lord is The One The Creator of the heavens and the earth. The Lord is Who created you and me brother. The Bible tells me that everything came from the Father....... but it came through Jesus when he was in the form of God before he sat that aside and became flesh. So, what you post does not really match up with what I read out of the Word. So I have to ask, "Is Jesus your Lord?" I have just replied. So all what you believe about your god is from the bible, what if you were born with no bible, will you know your god? I know my God, my Lord, my Creator from His great Creation. I can see the greatness of His handmade and no one can deny Him. Can anyone one deny your teached god? Yes, because you are teached your culture, it is not natural, it is not unviversal, it is confined to those whose parents and society teached them who is their local god. Islam is the religion of nature, Islam is the universal religion and here is one simple proof: What is the meaning of "Islam"? What is the meaning of "Christianity"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) Allah is NOT GOD. I AM is GOD. The meaning of Islam - true Islam - is fear, terror and certain, everlasting terror. The meaning of Christianity - true Christianity - is love and everlasting life. Edited September 9, 2011 by Parker1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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