A woman's life in Iran

[tako]

Thank for the Post DAN, I'm really starting to SEE the QURAN for what it is, And the dilemma of the good people who are stuck in the Islam religion, I would think that the CHRISTIANITY would be GLADLY EMBRACED by many WOMEN of the ISLAMIC religion if it were not for the FEAR of being BEATEN daily or worse. Also I can see why MUSLIMS have a hard time SPEAKING OUT AGAINST ATROCITIES because it would be speaking AGAINST WHAT IS WRITTEN, Like the Right hand speaking against the LEFT hand of the same person. I guess the only alternative would be to leave and seek another religion.............TAKO

[georgesbluegirl]

Has anybody ever read the whole Koran? It's worth it so you can look at it contextually and not just line by line. There are certainly lines in the Bible that make non-Christians gasp in shock.

By the way, I'm in the middle of Reading Lolita in Tehran and I recommend it to everyone...it's great and really gives perspective on the situation of women in Iran.

[dgolvach]

Georgesbluegirl,

These crimes are going on today at an alarming rate. They are well documented. It seems the Muslim men don't read all of the Q'uran. Whippings and Honor killings take place on a regular basis in the name of God. No matter what the whole book says. Much of the culture interprets it as the article above shows. Women in some Islamic countries are treated like slaves or animals. Its an undisputable fact that this sadistic treatment is common place. In many cases it's the women who sound the alarm.

Islam rejects Christ as God and teaches that any one from any other belief is an infidel. This is a fact. Many moderate muslims will tell you that the Q'uran teaches this. Islamic law is dangerous. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhist what ever are infidels and should convert or die. Read how Mohammed converted people along with his war lors Ali.

[Green Darner]

Where are all the femenists to speak out against this? :suspect:

[dgolvach]

Where are all the femenists to speak out against this

? That might help Bush!

[georgesbluegirl]

Heh, don't be so snarky. Yes, I'm perfectly well aware of all the human rights atrocities that go on in many fundamentalist (key word) Islamic countries - it's despicable and I was in no way trying to excuse it. Obviously. Trust me, there are lots of people, liberal and conservative alike, who work against this and you'll find plenty of feminists more than a bit peeved over it! Of course, it's hard to bash it out of people's heads when it's been ingrained for so long. Sigh.

[Green Darner]

Heh, don't be so snarky. Yes, I'm perfectly well aware of all the human rights atrocities that go on in many fundamentalist (key word) Islamic countries - it's despicable and I was in no way trying to excuse it. Obviously. Trust me, there are lots of people, liberal and conservative alike, who work against this and you'll find plenty of feminists more than a bit peeved over it! Of course, it's hard to bash it out of people's heads when it's been ingrained for so long. Sigh.

Wow, I didn't know such a little question would touch such a nerve.

All I'm saying is if there are feminists (NOW, ect.) who are angered at the treatment of these women and girls I haven't heard a peep from them. Why? They are usually very outspoken.

Edited September 27, 2004 by Green Darner

[AnotherTraveler]

If a man goes to hit a woman here, chances are that the woman will kick his butt all over town and then tell his friends that she wooped upon him. Or if a man hits the woman, the woman's family will settle the matter by holding a "midnight party" with the man as the "guest of honor".

The other day my 13 year old daughter was threatened with being beat up by a much larger, older boy from just down the street. She warned him that if she told her brothers of the threat (ages 14 and 16, very muscular, athletic, and confident) that he would be speaking to them, and he (in fear) backed off, having not realized that they were her brothers.

My sons love the Lord, but I taught them that they can not stand by and passively allow any weaker one to be mistreated under their watch, that a real Christian does not just say, a real Christian also does, not retaliation, not revenge, but certainly exercise the necessary efforts to cause the danger to a weaker one to stop, and they know how, I made sure of that.

Two days ago, I drove down the road and this same young man was standing at the edge of the road, and I stopped and mentioned the report that my daughter had given, and I asked him to please not push this, as my sons might get over zealous, and I want peace. He was very polite, yes sir, no sir, thank you sir, and I was also polite and respectful to him, but I wanted him to know that I knew of the threat, I knew that the boys would certainly respond, and we really don't want things to go this way, do we? He agreed.

Where are the godly men to stand up and speak up against such evil? The problem with put up or shut up is sometimes you can't be just bluffing, you will need to stand your ground and that is really the problem even in the current election. Of the two candidates, if one told me he was going to kick my tail if I didn't behave, I would certainly take him at his word, he has a track record, the other one I wouldn't let bother me.

God is sending real men and women into the Muslim countries to preach and teach, and they are very much aware that they risk torture and death, yet they go, and because there are still these kind of Christians in the earth, there is still hope for the nations blanketed by this evil.

[dgolvach]

I'm perfectly well aware of all the human rights atrocities that go on in many fundamentalist (key word) Islamic countries - it's despicable

I agree. Which is way we must be on guard from these people. If you look at the really major conflicts today, Islam has a hand in them. I believe Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus can live together without major killing each other. But I can't say the same for Muslims. "Context" or not, wife beating verses should not be in any religious book. It is in the Q'uran and it's not just the radicals that subscribe to that point of view. Mohammad was a poligomist as are many of his modern followers. I guess I just have some real problems with Islam.

Dan ( Snark y)

[dgolvach]

And another thing about Islam. The men terrorist get 72 virgins if they die for Allah. What do the women get? 72 ZZ TOP lookin nasty hairy mullahs who carry whips? Oh Joy!!! Im sorry but women get a bad deal in Islam. Its the men who should wear the vail. I hope The love of Jesus will overtake all of Islam and drive it backdown into the pit it came from. Jesus is what they all need. Not the chains if Mohammed.

"One thing I can tell you is you got to be free"