Calvinism and Corinthians 12:3

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But what if we're all so depraved that we will never choose God?

This is why most people have to come to the end of their rope or lower before they will cry out to God.

But still, if we are TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved no amount of personal trauma will get us to cry out to God.

By what Scripture do you consider us "TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved" in this way?

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Prosperity Theology and Replacement Theology are separate entities.

While the Prosperity Theology may have utilized Replacement Theology in your example, they are still 2 entirely separate entities.

All there has to be is the potential for anti-semitism in Prosperity Theology.

Joe, your train of thought is lost in a fog to me.

When you stated: "But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them."

Yod replied: "Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder."

Why did you bring Prosperity Theology into this? What does the Prosperity Gospel have to do with a discussion on Calvinism?

[joejkljkl]

But what if we're all so depraved that we will never choose God?

This is why most people have to come to the end of their rope or lower before they will cry out to God.

But still, if we are TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved no amount of personal trauma will get us to cry out to God.

By what Scripture do you consider us "TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved" in this way?

The one I started the thread with.

[joejkljkl]

Prosperity Theology and Replacement Theology are separate entities.

While the Prosperity Theology may have utilized Replacement Theology in your example, they are still 2 entirely separate entities.

All there has to be is the potential for anti-semitism in Prosperity Theology.

Joe, your train of thought is lost in a fog to me.

When you stated: "But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them."

Yod replied: "Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder."

Why did you bring Prosperity Theology into this? What does the Prosperity Gospel have to do with a discussion on Calvinism?

I just think that RT (Replacement Theology) is rampant today in PT, far too rampant for anyone to have anti-semitism blamed on them.

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Prosperity Theology and Replacement Theology are separate entities.

While the Prosperity Theology may have utilized Replacement Theology in your example, they are still 2 entirely separate entities.

All there has to be is the potential for anti-semitism in Prosperity Theology.

Joe, your train of thought is lost in a fog to me.

When you stated: "But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them."

Yod replied: "Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder."

Why did you bring Prosperity Theology into this? What does the Prosperity Gospel have to do with a discussion on Calvinism?

I just think that RT (Replacement Theology) is rampant today in PT, far too rampant for anyone to have anti-semitism blamed on them.

It's sounds to me like you are dodging the point via diversion.

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But what if we're all so depraved that we will never choose God?

This is why most people have to come to the end of their rope or lower before they will cry out to God.

But still, if we are TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved no amount of personal trauma will get us to cry out to God.

By what Scripture do you consider us "TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved" in this way?

The one I started the thread with.

Corinthians 12:3

Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

I am failing to make the connection between this verse at "total depravity".

[joejkljkl]

Prosperity Theology and Replacement Theology are separate entities.

While the Prosperity Theology may have utilized Replacement Theology in your example, they are still 2 entirely separate entities.

All there has to be is the potential for anti-semitism in Prosperity Theology.

Joe, your train of thought is lost in a fog to me.

When you stated: "But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them."

Yod replied: "Then John Calvin should be utterly disregarded. I wonder if he was even born-again since his teaching of Replacement Theology justified blatant anti-semitism.The fruit of his words were murder."

Why did you bring Prosperity Theology into this? What does the Prosperity Gospel have to do with a discussion on Calvinism?

I just think that RT (Replacement Theology) is rampant today in PT, far too rampant for anyone to have anti-semitism blamed on them.

It's sounds to me like you are dodging the point via diversion.

How so?

[joejkljkl]

But what if we're all so depraved that we will never choose God?

This is why most people have to come to the end of their rope or lower before they will cry out to God.

But still, if we are TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved no amount of personal trauma will get us to cry out to God.

By what Scripture do you consider us "TOTALLY (infinitely) depraved" in this way?

The one I started the thread with.

Corinthians 12:3

Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

I am failing to make the connection between this verse at "total depravity".

If you're so depraved that you can't make Jesus your Lord, you're pretty depraved.

[joejkljkl]

I just think that RT (Replacement Theology) is rampant today in PT, far too rampant for anyone to have anti-semitism blamed on them.

Anyone of any cloth is capable of antisemitism. Replacement Theology has it's roots 100% steeped in antisemitism, so your logic is unsound.

You have yet to explain why prosperity doctrine is figuring into a discussion of Calvinism.

Are you sure that AS led to RT, or the other way around? I could see RT being based on a poor interpretation of scripture.

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I just think that RT (Replacement Theology) is rampant today in PT, far too rampant for anyone to have anti-semitism blamed on them.

It's sounds to me like you are dodging the point via diversion.

How so?

You responded to Yod's post.

What does this have to do with what Yod mentioned?