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Peter is talking to the people. He says repent and be baptised.

If you do you will bring your children and their children into the Kingdom.

No that is NOT what Peter said. Here is what Peter said:

Act 2:38 Then Peter said to them, Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ to remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Act 2:39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all those afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Peter is saying that the promise is for their children as well. If their children take hold of the same promise, they will get the same results.

He is NOT saying that your salvation has any salvific effect upon your children. Your children are not saved on your coat tails. EVERY person must make the decision for Messiah as soon as they are old enough to understand the need for it. Until that "age of accountabilty" they are held in innocence.

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Called.

Well, I believe that you are wrong. This is not love and obedience, but domination and slavery.

God is Sovereign.

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I hope this post is taken with an attitude of love, not divisiveness.

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Amen Jake! Good post! :huh:

I hope people don't miss the point.

I was saying that The Apostle Peter had just told the people that everyone who calls upon the name will be saved, not just the predetermined or whoever was baptized as a child.


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shiloh357.

Ok, but that still leaves the OT passages.

johnp.

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shiloh357.

Ok, but that still leaves the OT passages.

johnp.

which OT passages did you have in mind?

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Called.

Well, I believe that you are wrong. This is not love and obedience, but domination and slavery.

God is Sovereign.

johnp.

I know that...but what is your point? :huh:

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I hope this post is taken with an attitude of love, not divisiveness.

*snip*

Amen Jake! Good post! :)

I hope people don't miss the point.

I was saying that The Apostle Peter had just told the people that everyone who calls upon the name will be saved, not just the predetermined or whoever was baptized as a child.

Yes, I understand what you are saying. :)

The key phrase in that passage is we must all call on the name of the Lord...not just assume cause mommy and daddy are saved and they had us baptized when we were still in diapers that we are saved...it just doesn't work that way... :huh:


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He is NOT saying that your salvation has any salvfic effect upon your children. Your children are not saved on your coat tails. EVERY person must make the decision for Messiah as soon as they are old enough to understand the need for it. Until that "age of accountabilty" they are held in innocence.

Yes,

Deuteronomy 1:39

And the little ones that you said would be taken captive, your children who do not yet know good from bad-they will enter the land. I will give it to them and they will take possession of it.

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The key phrase in that passage is we must all call on the name of the Lord...not just assume cause mommy and daddy are saved and they had us baptized when we were still in diapers that we are saved...it just doesn't work that way... :huh:

:) Amen!!


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This makes absolutely no sense at all.

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