Sevenseas Posted July 13, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 13, 2012 Now we have the testimony of John the BAPTIST as to which is the baptism for salvation and the ONE baptism (that matters) in Ephesians 4:5... the baptism of the Holy Ghost by Jesus Christ. I'm not sure I understand you. Are you saying that one must be baptized in the Spirit for slavation? I really am not sure of what you are saying Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted July 13, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 13, 2012 Amazing. Words are easily misunderstood. What I wonder is if you know that your twisting them or if it is done in ignorance. I am not ignorant. Far from it. I am not twisting anything either. No, it is not. You simply have to divorce it from the rest of what was said and forget that it came within a context that included an explanation. Same thing with scriptures. If that is your methodology, than understand that it is incorrect. I know you do not think so, but in all seriousness, it is You do not EVER divorce context from the text. I guess we have our explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan53 Posted July 13, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/10/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 13, 2012 Sevenseas... may I suggest you use the tools properly on this site to show who you are quoting. Your last two posts seem out of context and some of us don't have really good recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted July 14, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.98 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Amazing. Words are easily misunderstood. What I wonder is if you know that your twisting them or if it is done in ignorance. I am not ignorant. Far from it. I am not twisting anything either. No, it is not. You simply have to divorce it from the rest of what was said and forget that it came within a context that included an explanation. Same thing with scriptures. If that is your methodology, than understand that it is incorrect. I know you do not think so, but in all seriousness, it is You do not EVER divorce context from the text. I guess we have our explanation sevenseas, this is my point exactly. You are agreeing with me. I also was saying that one should never divorce context from the text. Man had said that it's hard to twist or misunderstand what I had written, but he actually took only bits and pieces out of the context of that which I wrote and so I replied that was in fact easy to twist by taking it out of its context as he had. It is simply amazing. I remember once when you had to correct me when I did the same thing to you. You told me I needed to go back and read what was written and when I did I understood what you meant and felt foolish. As far as the discussion goes here, I simply believe that you think you understand what I am saying but do not and it doesn't seem that any amount of discussion will remedy it as you have chosen to label me as a false teacher. I guess this would be where we part ways then. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderJ Posted July 14, 2012 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 195 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1993 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Amazing. Words are easily misunderstood. What I wonder is if you know that your twisting them or if it is done in ignorance. I am not ignorant. Far from it. I am not twisting anything either. Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. 1 Corinthians 10:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra7 Posted July 14, 2012 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 29 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/12/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/2011 Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) BYE! Edited July 26, 2012 by Terra7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted July 14, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 14, 2012 Sevenseas... may I suggest you use the tools properly on this site to show who you are quoting. Your last two posts seem out of context and some of us don't have really good recall. oh sorry....I'll try and do better but you can poke me again if I forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted July 14, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 14, 2012 Amazing. Words are easily misunderstood. What I wonder is if you know that your twisting them or if it is done in ignorance. I am not ignorant. Far from it. I am not twisting anything either. Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. 1 Corinthians 10:12 Definitely in context...I imagine you take that advice yourself? Thread's not about judging others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted July 14, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 14, 2012 sevenseas, this is my point exactly. You are agreeing with me. I also was saying that one should never divorce context from the text. Man had said that it's hard to twist or misunderstand what I had written, but he actually took only bits and pieces out of the context of that which I wrote and so I replied that was in fact easy to twist by taking it out of its context as he had. It is simply amazing. I remember once when you had to correct me when I did the same thing to you. You told me I needed to go back and read what was written and when I did I understood what you meant and felt foolish. As far as the discussion goes here, I simply believe that you think you understand what I am saying but do not and it doesn't seem that any amount of discussion will remedy it as you have chosen to label me as a false teacher. I guess this would be where we part ways then. Gary Yeah, I remember the go back and read thread... I understand that you do not think I understand and I think we will just leave it there because I don't think there is anything to add I'm not labeling you anything....I wish you would not come to those kinds of conclusions.....your remark about taking things out of context...well, doing that would be wrong...so if you are now saying you did not mean it that way...I mean what can I say? I never doubt your sincerity. If and I mean IF, this is really a case of different ways of expressing ourselves, then I guess you and I are worlds apart... Kindly do not have the opinion that I am labeling you or have called you a false teacher I think we should stop this as it is utterly pointless at this present time...I have read other posts you made and thought them quite good Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 14, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,798 Content Per Day: 6.20 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 14, 2012 but he said he wasn't baptized properly cause they said "father son holy ghost" instead of Jesus Christ. That is Oneness Pentecostal. They claim you are going to hell if you were baptized with Father Son and Holy Ghost instead of Jesus only. They deny the Trinity. They are highly legalistic. They have many serious doctrinal errors. (They also think wearing pants is a sin for a woman so wait for your boyfriend to get upset about you wearing jeans sometime.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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