messiahfollower Posted September 20, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/26/1977 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Can a backslidden follower lose salvation? Hebrews 6:4-11 states: 4It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, becauseb to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. 7Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. 8But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned. 9Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are confident of better things in your case—things that accompany salvation. 10God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. 11We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end, in order to make your hope sure. 12We do not want you to become lazy, but to imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised. What does this mean? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messiahfollower Posted September 20, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/26/1977 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Seriously, does anyone have an explanation? Does it mean what it seems like it is saying? or does it need to be rightfully divided? What is falling away exactly? I know the story of the parable of the lost son. I know that throughout the Old Testament God longs for His people to repent and come back. Can salvation be forfeited by a season of living in sin. Is this what it means to fall away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted September 20, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Can a backslidden follower lose salvation? Yes. In Jesus Name, Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciskelsey Posted September 21, 2012 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 120 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 37 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/19/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/13/1974 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Please go to this will help with any questions concerning. God bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted September 21, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,657 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2012 When we return to living in sin we resist the reproof of the Holy Spirit. In doing so we harden our hearts, and we are in danger of continuing to harden our hearts the longer we resist God. He will continue to pursue us until we repent or die. It is never too late to repent. But it often gets harder as time goes on. The only thing that stands in our way is our pride. People who do repent late in life usually regret the "lost" years when they didn't live for the Lord. Those works will be burned but they will be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayhodge02 Posted September 21, 2012 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 7 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/27/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/05/1971 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I watch (one of my fav shows) ask the pastor and this question comes up a lot and from my understanding if somebody chooses to tturn from God and denounce him yes, but on the flip side was he truly saved then?? No I believe not...yes we are not perfect and are always in need of guidance from the Holy Spirit on our actions thought and ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 to "lose" something means it happens unintentionally against our will. to be snatched (out of God's hand) means it happens unintentionally and against our will. one can't LOSE their salvation, but they can certainly choose to throw it away in favor of living to please themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted September 22, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted September 22, 2012 I watch (one of my fav shows) ask the pastor and this question comes up a lot and from my understanding if somebody chooses to tturn from God and denounce him yes, but on the flip side was he truly saved then?? No I believe not...yes we are not perfect and are always in need of guidance from the Holy Spirit on our actions thought and ways. well, I do not necessairly believe the person was never saved...take David for example...he sinned grievously commiting both adultery and murder by proxy He never stopped believing in God and he did repent...but paid for those sins the rest of his life You can come back (I did and I know I was really saved the 'first' time) but you really just want to stay to begin with. Sometimes the smell of sulfur hangs around an awful long time Actually, God went out of His way to bring me back...there is the story of the one lost sheep and the son who ran off and spent his fortune to illustrate that people can sin and yet God still seeks them or they are in such misery they come back to Him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted September 22, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted September 22, 2012 4It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, becauseb to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted September 23, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted September 23, 2012 4It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, becauseb to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Yes, but how do you reconcile that with many other scriptures indicating a person can backslide (the term used) but then repent of their sin and live for God (not meaning someone who bounces back and forth regularly) Do you see that as someone who denies God or lives sinfully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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