joi Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 506 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 1,922 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 173 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/12/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 10, 2012 Sounds as if the State Dept. was in collusion with O in the Libya debacle. Doesn't sound like she used good judgment, if that is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,134 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Sounds as if the State Dept. was in collusion with O in the Libya debacle. Doesn't sound like she used good judgment, if that is true. Her secretary's mother, father and pretty much whole extended family is heavily into the Muslim Brotherhood over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVE SONGS Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 131 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,188 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 8 Joined: 04/10/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted October 10, 2012 We are not here for the Government but, the Government is suppose to be for us. Somewhere along the time line of history, those seemed to have gotten reversed in reality I knew you would pick up on that statement . For it is so true. It has been reversed on us . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joi Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 506 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 1,922 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 173 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/12/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 10, 2012 I read on another forum that what is on that ring is not Arabic. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted October 10, 2012 http://www.wnd.com/2...-god-but-allah/ NEW YORK – As a student at Harvard Law School, then-bachelor Barack Obama’s practice of wearing a gold band on his wedding-ring finger puzzled his colleagues. Now, newly published photographs of Obama from the 1980s show that the ring Obama wore on his wedding-ring finger as an unmarried student is the same ring Michelle Robinson put on his finger at the couple’s wedding ceremony in 1992. Moreover, according to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada: “There is no God except Allah.” At least he's got clean fingernails..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,134 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 I read on another forum that what is on that ring is not Arabic. Who knows? Egyptian-born Islamic scholar Mark A. Gabriel, Ph.D., examined photographs of Obama’s ring at WND’s request and concluded that the first half of the Shahada is inscribed on it. Gabriel, born to Muslim parents in Upper Egypt, grew up immersed in Islamic culture. He memorized the Quran at age of 12 and graduated in 1990 with a Masters degree from the prestigious Al-Azhar University in Cairo, the pre-eminent Sunni Muslim institution of learning. He explained that on Obama’s ring, the declaration “There is no god except Allah” (La Ilaha Illallah) is inscribed in two sections, one above the other. On the upper section, “There is no god” is written in Arabic letters, from right to left: Lam, Alif, Alif, Lam, Ha. On the lower section is “except god,” written in Arabic letters from right to left: Alif, Lam, Alif, Alif, Lam, Lam, Ha. In the lower section, the word “Allah” is written partially on top of the word “except,” noted Gabriel, the author of “Islam and Terrorism” and “Journey Inside the Mind of an Islamic Terrorist.” It is common in Islamic art and Arabic calligraphy, especially when expressing Quranic messages on jewelry, to artfully place letters on top of each other to fit them into the allotted space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted October 10, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted October 10, 2012 I posted on a duplicate thread links to other articles that showed other pictures of the ring. One included showing how it is written the muslim words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted October 11, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Duplicity is his speciality. He thinks he's walking the grey area,between honesty and dishonesty, but, he's only fooling hisself. He's only been able to get away with it at this point because the 4th Estate has become the 5th Column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_abc Posted October 11, 2012 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 898 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 537 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Just a brief note: This is just a suggestion. But perhaps before any conclusions are made it might be helpful to folk to find out exactly which script {if any} is on the ring? There are several different ancient scripts that are / were used in Indonesia. For example Balinese ... Javanese.... and possibly Jawi too... etc I don't quite understand why the automatic assumption is that it is arabic? Anyways just a suggestion thats all. Thanks. *edited to add : That it might possibly not be a script at all but just a design . Edited October 11, 2012 by just_abc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 11, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,134 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 did you read post 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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