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I think we're all in agreement that all the signs pointed to and were connected to that same promise. :)


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Isaiah 50:6 (NASB95)

6 I gave My back to those who strike Me, And My cheeks to those who pluck out the beard; I did not cover My face from humiliation and spitting.

There are several prophecies of the Messiah that the Jews lived out. I believe they call it pantomime prophecy (acted out / lived out).


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Other than Y'shua?

What disqualifies Y'shua, in your mind?

He will restore Melekh Dovid's fallen tent... when he returns.

Isaiah 11:10-16 (KJV)

10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.

14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.

15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.

16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.

Point being Y'shua IS Moshiakh b'Yosef v Moshiakh b'Dovid. Blessed be his name.


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The rebs did not take into messianic account in the translations that he would rise from the dead. And that is really what his mission is all about for him and for us.

Job 19:23-27 (KJV)

23 Oh that my words were now written! oh that they were printed in a book!

24 That they were graven with an iron pen and lead in the rock for ever!

25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:

27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.

1 John 3:2 (KJV)

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Colossians 1:17-18 (KJV)

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.


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No arguments here.


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Granted Y-shua will still fulfill Messiah Ben David but name a Jew who has fulfilled Messiah Ben Joseph besides Y-shua and name me a Jew that has brought the Gospel (Torah) to the world and turned people from all nations to G-d other than Y-shua.

There is no other. Only Y-shua. Only Jesus. He is the only Way, Truth and Life. The only One.

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