The Law and incest.....

[MissPlaced_56]

My daughter was watching T.V... just came to me upset by what she had just seen....a story about incest in Georgia AND IT WAS LEGAL.....i helped her calm down...She already knew that incest was wrong.....i decided to check out the legality of it, i thought perhaps that she hadn't understood what she had heard,,to my DISGUST,, she was right...To say that i'm appalled would be an understatement!!!!

you're thought's comment's??

http://cousincouples.com/?page=states

[OakWood]

My daughter was watching T.V... just came to me upset by what she had just seen....a story about incest in Georgia AND IT WAS LEGAL.....i helped her calm down...She already knew that incest was wrong.....i decided to check out the legality of it, i thought perhaps that she hadn't understood what she had heard,,to my DISGUST,, she was right...To say that i'm appalled would be an understatement!!!!

you're thought's comment's??

http://cousincouples.com/?page=states

As far as I am aware cousin marriages were never forbidden by the Bible anyway. They are not classed as incest under God's laws. (Someone correct me if I am wrong because I am not certain).

However, they are inadvisable for genetic reasons.

[Guest LadyC]

My daughter was watching T.V... just came to me upset by what she had just seen....a story about incest in Georgia AND IT WAS LEGAL.....i helped her calm down...She already knew that incest was wrong.....i decided to check out the legality of it, i thought perhaps that she hadn't understood what she had heard,,to my DISGUST,, she was right...To say that i'm appalled would be an understatement!!!!

you're thought's comment's??

http://cousincouples.com/?page=states

 

i'm actually one of the administrators at that site, and have been for over ten years. my husband and i are first cousins once removed. the Bible does not prohibit marriage, even between first cousins. in fact, the Bible is quite supportive of cousin marriages. i'll be happy to help answer any concerns you have. i'm pretty well educated regarding the biblical, genetic, and legal aspects.

 

cousincouples.com, by the way, was founded by a christian (who is a member here, although he's not very active here)... and all the administrators over the site are also christians. one of them is even a military chaplain, if i'm not mistaken.

[Guest LadyC]

 

My daughter was watching T.V... just came to me upset by what she had just seen....a story about incest in Georgia AND IT WAS LEGAL.....i helped her calm down...She already knew that incest was wrong.....i decided to check out the legality of it, i thought perhaps that she hadn't understood what she had heard,,to my DISGUST,, she was right...To say that i'm appalled would be an understatement!!!!

you're thought's comment's??

http://cousincouples.com/?page=states

As far as I am aware cousin marriages were never forbidden by the Bible anyway. They are not classed as incest under God's laws. (Someone correct me if I am wrong because I am not certain).

However, they are inadvisable for genetic reasons.

 

 

no, you're absolutely correct . biblically anyway. you are confusing genetics and politics regarding inadvisability.

[Guest]

seems to me, that the third generation of people, had to have come from either sibling relations, or parent/sibling relations. In other words, either Adam and/or Eve had relations with their kids, or their kids had relations with each other, or both, unless God created other individuals apart from Adam and Eve, and we  not privy to that.

 

From that I take, that inter-relations are not sinful by nature, unlike say homosexuality. However, as has been stated, there is a danger genetically from accumulations of defects in the genetic code, and so it was prudent of both God and society, to step in and create laws limiting the practice.

 

If you live where such relations are against the law, then to practice incest, is a sin (Titus 3:1) and Romans 12::1) and it is also sinful if one feels guilty about doing it (Rom 14:23).

 

I have to think that there are on the order of 1 billion unmarried people of opposite gender and appropriate age out there. if one cannot find a better candidate than one's brother or sister etc, they need to get out more.

 

 

 

My daughter was watching T.V... just came to me upset by what she had just seen....a story about incest in Georgia AND IT WAS LEGAL.....i helped her calm down...She already knew that incest was wrong.....i decided to check out the legality of it, i thought perhaps that she hadn't understood what she had heard,,to my DISGUST,, she was right...To say that i'm appalled would be an understatement!!!!

you're thought's comment's??

 

Since you invited thoughts and comments: Perhaps you would be wise, to supervise the content of your daughter's television habits more closely, as there is worse and more upsetting things than that she will encounter.

[John S]

The more closely 2 people are genetically, the more chance that there is of offspring having genetic abnormalities.

I don't know the legality of these marriages.

[GoldenEagle]

The passage that deals with incest in the Bible is as follows I believe. There may be others.

 

Lev. 18:6-18

 

⁶ ‘None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness: I am the Lord. ⁷ The nakedness of your father or the nakedness of your mother you shall not uncover. She is your mother; you shall not uncover her nakedness. ⁸ The nakedness of your father’s wife you shall not uncover; it is your father’s nakedness. ⁹ The nakedness of your sister, the daughter of your father, or the daughter of your mother, whether born at home or elsewhere, their nakedness you shall not uncover. ¹⁰ The nakedness of your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter, their nakedness you shall not uncover; for theirs is your own nakedness. ¹¹ The nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, begotten by your father—she is your sister—you shall not uncover her nakedness. ¹² You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is near of kin to your father. ¹³ You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is near of kin to your mother. ¹⁴ You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother. You shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. ¹⁵ You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law—she is your son’s wife—you shall not uncover her nakedness. ¹⁶ You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. ¹⁷ You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, nor shall you take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, to uncover her nakedness. They are near of kin to her. It is wickedness. ¹⁸ Nor shall you take a woman as a rival to her sister, to uncover her nakedness while the other is alive.

 

God bless,

GE

[Guest LadyC]

GENETIC INFO... just because there is so much misinformation out there. here's the facts.

 

historically (from the beginning of time through now) it is estimated that 80% of the world's marriages have been between cousins.

 

the risk for an inherited disorder that is a result of cousin marriage is very small. everyone has a background risk (3%) of having a child with a birth defect. first cousins increase those odds by 1.4 to 2.8%. in other words, they still have a MORE than 96% chance of having a child with zero birth defects.

 

there are several types of birth defects. the ones that result from cousin marriage are the least common of all. here are the types. my mom, brother and sis-in-law just walked in the door unexpectedly so i can't go into much detail at the moment, but here's the gist of things:

 

the type of defect that would result from cousin marriage is called "autosomal recessive". it means that the child must inherit one "bad" copy of the same gene from EACH parent. each parent has two copies of every gene.... IF each parent has one defective copy of a specific gene, and IF the child happens to inherit ONLY the bad copies from each parent, then the child will have the disorder. the same odds apply for other groups who are at risk for certain autosomal recessive disorders too... for instance, blacks are more susceptible to sickle cell, europeans and jews i think often carry a recessive gene for tay sachs... you get the idea.

 

anyway, genetic experts are opposed to restrictions on cousin marriage because the risks are much lower than some other groups who may be at risk for disorders (x-linked, dominant, chromosomal) for which there are no marital restrictions.

[Guest LadyC]

ok for more info on the genetics... i actually created these charts myself. i was mentored by two of the worlds leading genetics experts... alan bittles, from the centre for human genetics in australia, and robin bennet, former president of the national society of genetic counselors. literally mentored. alan and i corresponded by email and snail mail many times. robin bennet and i have met personally, and corresponded by phone and email many times over a two or three year period. they verified the information on my charts before i published them on the web. besides these charts, there is a lot of written info that i have included there, and a table on the second page that lists various disabilities, how they are inherited, and who is at most risk. 

 

http://www.cousincouples.com/?page=overview

 

 

 

biblically, i can provide plenty of instances of marriages between first cousins and first cousins once removed. some were so clearly orchestrated by God, some were commanded by God through Moses. 

[MissPlaced_56]

seems to me, that the third generation of people, had to have come from either sibling relations, or parent/sibling relations. In other words, either Adam and/or Eve had relations with their kids, or their kids had relations with each other, or both, unless God created other individuals apart from Adam and Eve, and we  not privy to that.

 

From that I take, that inter-relations are not sinful by nature, unlike say homosexuality. However, as has been stated, there is a danger genetically from accumulations of defects in the genetic code, and so it was prudent of both God and society, to step in and create laws limiting the practice.

 

If you live where such relations are against the law, then to practice incest, is a sin (Titus 3:1) and Romans 12::1) and it is also sinful if one feels guilty about doing it (Rom 14:23).

 

I have to think that there are on the order of 1 billion unmarried people of opposite gender and appropriate age out there. if one cannot find a better candidate than one's brother or sister etc, they need to get out more.

 

 

 

My daughter was watching T.V... just came to me upset by what she had just seen....a story about incest in Georgia AND IT WAS LEGAL.....i helped her calm down...She already knew that incest was wrong.....i decided to check out the legality of it, i thought perhaps that she hadn't understood what she had heard,,to my DISGUST,, she was right...To say that i'm appalled would be an understatement!!!!

you're thought's comment's??

 

Since you invited thoughts and comments: Perhaps you would be wise, to supervise the content of your daughter's television habits more closely, as there is worse and more upsetting things than that she will encounter.

Thank you Omegaman for you're thoughtfulness towards my daughter, it's appreciated!, but as you pointed out there is far worse that she will encounter....you have a very valid point...you see that's exactly WHY i don't hide the world from her,because she will and has encounter these things..so no i don't hide these things from her....she has to live in this world and it's my job as her momma to prepare her to deal with this fallen world that we live in...one day she will have to face it on her own...and SHAME on me if i don't prepare her to do just that!