Are their different levels of Heaven?

[coheir]

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

 

"Three heavens" is talking about

 

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

 

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

 

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm  http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

[~candice~]

 

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

 

"Three heavens" is talking about

 

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

 

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

 

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm  http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

 

 

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

 

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

[coheir]

 

 

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

 

"Three heavens" is talking about

 

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

 

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

 

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm  http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

 

 

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

 

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

 

I took that from Rev 11;2 please remember i have no biblical training my thought are just what I think and can be changed by someone willing to show me better understanding

which why I am here to hopefully improve by people like you willing to explain my misunderstandings.

[~candice~]

 

 

 

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

 

"Three heavens" is talking about

 

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

 

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

 

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm  http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

 

 

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

 

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

 

I took that from Rev 11;2 please remember i have no biblical training my thought are just what I think and can be changed by someone willing to show me better understanding

which why I am here to hopefully improve by people like you willing to explain my misunderstandings.

 

 

No problem.

 

Let me show you a scripture I think might illuminate things for you a bit

 

Gal 3

 

Sons and Heirs

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 

In context I believe it teaches that the Gentiles and the Jews now have access to the one salvation, the one promise. There is now no difference in how men and women, greek and Jew, slave or free, can access salvation via Jesus. Everyone is on the one page when it comes to salvation.

 

So that's why I don't think that there would be an inner court for the Jews - because I believe we all now have the one access.

 

The next chapter reiterates the same kind of message:

 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you[a] all.

 

I hope that helps.

[Qnts2]

 

 

 

 

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

 

"Three heavens" is talking about

 

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

 

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

 

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm  http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

 

 

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

 

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

 

I took that from Rev 11;2 please remember i have no biblical training my thought are just what I think and can be changed by someone willing to show me better understanding

which why I am here to hopefully improve by people like you willing to explain my misunderstandings.

 

 

No problem.

 

Let me show you a scripture I think might illuminate things for you a bit

 

Gal 3

 

Sons and Heirs

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 

In context I believe it teaches that the Gentiles and the Jews now have access to the one salvation, the one promise. There is now no difference in how men and women, greek and Jew, slave or free, can access salvation via Jesus. Everyone is on the one page when it comes to salvation.

 

So that's why I don't think that there would be an inner court for the Jews - because I believe we all now have the one access.

 

The next chapter reiterates the same kind of message:

 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you[a] all.

 

I hope that helps.

 

 

 

I agree that there is only one way to salvation, thru Jesus, and that way is the same for Jews and Gentiles, men and women, slave and free.

 

Now, the question is not so much salvation, as it is the same way for all, but more about our varying roles, callings, etc. While we all agree that there is only one way to salvation, I don't think anyone would agree that after salvation, men and women no longer exist. Or that men and women have the exact same jobs, callings, etc.  

[coheir]

 

 

 

 

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

 

"Three heavens" is talking about

 

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

 

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

 

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm  http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

 

 

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

 

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

 

I took that from Rev 11;2 please remember i have no biblical training my thought are just what I think and can be changed by someone willing to show me better understanding

which why I am here to hopefully improve by people like you willing to explain my misunderstandings.

 

 

No problem.

 

Let me show you a scripture I think might illuminate things for you a bit

 

Gal 3

 

Sons and Heirs

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 

In context I believe it teaches that the Gentiles and the Jews now have access to the one salvation, the one promise. There is now no difference in how men and women, greek and Jew, slave or free, can access salvation via Jesus. Everyone is on the one page when it comes to salvation.

 

So that's why I don't think that there would be an inner court for the Jews - because I believe we all now have the one access.

 

The next chapter reiterates the same kind of message:

 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you[a] all.

 

I hope that helps.

 

yes i read that before and I dont disagree with it. the one thing I have not overcome is me, myself and I. Hopefully I will be in heaven one day and it is hard to understand how i could be level with Paul or John or for that matter some on this forum Ive met. Plus the 5 different crowns that different believers can receive.

 

 

[~candice~]

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

"Three heavens" is talking about

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

I took that from Rev 11;2 please remember i have no biblical training my thought are just what I think and can be changed by someone willing to show me better understanding

which why I am here to hopefully improve by people like you willing to explain my misunderstandings.

No problem.

Let me show you a scripture I think might illuminate things for you a bit

Gal 3

Sons and Heirs

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

In context I believe it teaches that the Gentiles and the Jews now have access to the one salvation, the one promise. There is now no difference in how men and women, greek and Jew, slave or free, can access salvation via Jesus. Everyone is on the one page when it comes to salvation.

So that's why I don't think that there would be an inner court for the Jews - because I believe we all now have the one access.

The next chapter reiterates the same kind of message:

4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you[a] all.

I hope that helps.

I agree that there is only one way to salvation, thru Jesus, and that way is the same for Jews and Gentiles, men and women, slave and free.

Now, the question is not so much salvation, as it is the same way for all, but more about our varying roles, callings, etc. While we all agree that there is only one way to salvation, I don't think anyone would agree that after salvation, men and women no longer exist. Or that men and women have the exact same jobs, callings, etc.

right

Im only using the verse to talk about salvation. Not gifts on earth.

[coheir]

 

 

 

 

 

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

 

"Three heavens" is talking about

 

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

 

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

 

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm  http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

 

 

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

 

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

 

I took that from Rev 11;2 please remember i have no biblical training my thought are just what I think and can be changed by someone willing to show me better understanding

which why I am here to hopefully improve by people like you willing to explain my misunderstandings.

 

 

No problem.

 

Let me show you a scripture I think might illuminate things for you a bit

 

Gal 3

 

Sons and Heirs

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 

In context I believe it teaches that the Gentiles and the Jews now have access to the one salvation, the one promise. There is now no difference in how men and women, greek and Jew, slave or free, can access salvation via Jesus. Everyone is on the one page when it comes to salvation.

 

So that's why I don't think that there would be an inner court for the Jews - because I believe we all now have the one access.

 

The next chapter reiterates the same kind of message:

 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you[a] all.

 

I hope that helps.

 

 

 

I agree that there is only one way to salvation, thru Jesus, and that way is the same for Jews and Gentiles, men and women, slave and free.

 

Now, the question is not so much salvation, as it is the same way for all, but more about our varying roles, callings, etc. While we all agree that there is only one way to salvation, I don't think anyone would agree that after salvation, men and women no longer exist. Or that men and women have the exact same jobs, callings, etc.  

 

I agree with that;  i can not imagine myself equal to a preacher If i do get chosen to be there. I think they will be different jobs so to speak for each person according to their abilities. Presently i personally think a job like riding on the back of a garbage truck ( which I did at 16; summer job; hard work ) is as important as a ceo making 10 million a year. That ceo has no where to sit with out a chair builder. i think God would kinda look at things like that; different assignments but equal regardless of assignment.

[Qnts2]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

"Three heavens" is talking about

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

I took that from Rev 11;2 please remember i have no biblical training my thought are just what I think and can be changed by someone willing to show me better understanding

which why I am here to hopefully improve by people like you willing to explain my misunderstandings.

No problem.

Let me show you a scripture I think might illuminate things for you a bit

Gal 3

Sons and Heirs

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

In context I believe it teaches that the Gentiles and the Jews now have access to the one salvation, the one promise. There is now no difference in how men and women, greek and Jew, slave or free, can access salvation via Jesus. Everyone is on the one page when it comes to salvation.

So that's why I don't think that there would be an inner court for the Jews - because I believe we all now have the one access.

The next chapter reiterates the same kind of message:

4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you[a] all.

I hope that helps.

I agree that there is only one way to salvation, thru Jesus, and that way is the same for Jews and Gentiles, men and women, slave and free.

Now, the question is not so much salvation, as it is the same way for all, but more about our varying roles, callings, etc. While we all agree that there is only one way to salvation, I don't think anyone would agree that after salvation, men and women no longer exist. Or that men and women have the exact same jobs, callings, etc.

right

Im only using the verse to talk about salvation. Not gifts on earth.

 

Ok, I view gifts and callings and jobs as different things. If men and women have differing callings and jobs, it would follow that Jews and Gentiles can have differing callings and jobs.

 

I also believe the millenial kingdom is on earth. After that there is a new heaven and a new earth and a new Jerusalem, and those who are saved are on this new earth.  

[Qnts2]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Guys - the bible uses the term heaven in a few different ways.

 

"Three heavens" is talking about

 

sky

space

heaven (God's abode)

 

It doesn't mean there are three levels in God's abode .

 

Since I am about to hit the sack, I will be lazy and just link to carm  http://carm.org/what-does-it-mean-when-bible-refers-third-heaven

post # 7

 

 

Can I ask - what makes you think there might be an inner court for the jews?

 

I was reiterating the ANE cosmology understanding of "heaven" for anyone interested - don't feel it is aimed only at you .

 

I took that from Rev 11;2 please remember i have no biblical training my thought are just what I think and can be changed by someone willing to show me better understanding

which why I am here to hopefully improve by people like you willing to explain my misunderstandings.

 

 

No problem.

 

Let me show you a scripture I think might illuminate things for you a bit

 

Gal 3

 

Sons and Heirs

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 

In context I believe it teaches that the Gentiles and the Jews now have access to the one salvation, the one promise. There is now no difference in how men and women, greek and Jew, slave or free, can access salvation via Jesus. Everyone is on the one page when it comes to salvation.

 

So that's why I don't think that there would be an inner court for the Jews - because I believe we all now have the one access.

 

The next chapter reiterates the same kind of message:

 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you[a] all.

 

I hope that helps.

 

 

 

I agree that there is only one way to salvation, thru Jesus, and that way is the same for Jews and Gentiles, men and women, slave and free.

 

Now, the question is not so much salvation, as it is the same way for all, but more about our varying roles, callings, etc. While we all agree that there is only one way to salvation, I don't think anyone would agree that after salvation, men and women no longer exist. Or that men and women have the exact same jobs, callings, etc.  

 

I agree with that;  i can not imagine myself equal to a preacher If i do get chosen to be there. I think they will be different jobs so to speak for each person according to their abilities. Presently i personally think a job like riding on the back of a garbage truck ( which I did at 16; summer job; hard work ) is as important as a ceo making 10 million a year. That ceo has no where to sit with out a chair builder. i think God would kinda look at things like that; different assignments but equal regardless of assignment.

 

I agree.