FreeinChrist Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 192 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 635 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/29/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2013 So I was reading some posts in Apologetics, and after reading a few I was wondering how people define the word faith and believe as used in the Bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elhanan Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 322 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/18/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2013 Scripture interprets scripture so we can use this principle to further define terms such as faith and believe. Heb 5:9 states "and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him." Normally we equate having eternal salvation with belief but notice that Heb 5:9 does not say belief - it says obey. Obedience is equated with belief. Therefore our belief can be defined or evidenced by our obedience to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.93 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I don't have time to look up the resources for this - sorry. But if you were to look up the meaning of the word in Hebrew that we have translated as "faith", you will find that the Hebrew word means "strong trust." Try inserting "strong trust" every time you read the word "faith" in Scripture and see what that does for your understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeinChrist Posted September 1, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 192 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 635 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/29/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 Scripture interprets scripture so we can use this principle to further define terms such as faith and believe. Heb 5:9 states "and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him." Normally we equate having eternal salvation with belief but notice that Heb 5:9 does not say belief - it says obey. Obedience is equated with belief. Therefore our belief can be defined or evidenced by our obedience to God. Thank you Elhanan, that is the definition of faith as I understand it also . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,257 Content Per Day: 3.32 Reputation: 16,675 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted September 4, 2013 The greek word means to believe, to trust in, to rely upon. If you insert the words rely upon or trust where ever you see the word believe, it would mean much more because it is more than intellectual assent. Even the demons do this. They don't rely on Jesus' blood to ratify the new covenant and usher them into the covenant of grace. Perhaps the people who already are being called by God into that covenant are already living up to the light given them. God calls all but extends grace to those who do not resist Him. He grants these the gift of trusting faith. I don't believe we can earn a free gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john14:6 Posted September 4, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 180 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 104 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/06/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 4, 2013 I lived for years in fear & misery because I did not understand what "believe in Jesus" meant therefore I had no assurance of salvation. I wrote the following article about my experience which explains how God showed me the truth about "believing" and brought me out of the fear of doubting my salvation into the peace that only a true "believer" can understand. Published on Rapture Forums website; can be accessed using the following link: http://www.raptureforums.com/FeaturedCommentary/whatdoesitmeantobelieveinjesus.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 5, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,265 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,993 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2013 It is my understanding that the Greek word that translates to belief is carries with it a level of total trust.. to understand he is who he says he is with such an intensity that you put your total trust in him for your future. Would be the same as him being your Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David ben Ephraim Posted September 5, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 3 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/05/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) So I was reading some posts in Apologetics, and after reading a few I was wondering how people define the word faith and believe as used in the Bible? Shalom and good evening, I define "faith" as "believing the promises of Yah", just as Abraham believed the promises of Yah and it was counted to him as righteousness. Shalom, David Edited September 5, 2013 by David ben Ephraim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 So I was reading some posts in Apologetics, and after reading a few I was wondering how people define the word faith and believe as used in the Bible? Shalom and good evening, I define "faith" as "believing the promises of Yah", just as Abraham believed the promises of Yah and it was counted to him as righteousness. In The Promises Of Yashua Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Heres obeying and believing used synonymously Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? By faith Abraham obeyed went out Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. Heres those which believe being contrasted against those which be disobedient 1Peter 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, Grace is given for the obedience to the faith Romans 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Good keywords to run would be faith, trust, belief, believe, believed, obey, obeyed, obedience, obedient, disobedience and disobedient (among more then a few) and read through those. They would probably help a lot too. God bless you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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