Qnts2 Posted September 2, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2013 I am not sure what you are getting at. Unless you are saying that the New Covenant applies only to the Gentiles??? I totally disagree with this... And I am not really sure you are even saying that... All things are from Jerusalem to Judea to Samaria and to the uttermost parts of the earth... had to be a beginning somewhere at some point in time... The covenant given to Noah applies to all descendents of Noah, or all people. The covenant given thru Moses applies to the children of Israel (Descendents of Jacob), and a subset applies to Gentiles who live in the land of Israel. The New Covenant applies to those who by faith, believe on Jesus and His completed work. It is the New Covenant which started in Jerusalem to Judea, and preached to Samaria and on to the uttermost part of the earth, which is available to all who hear and believe. Sadly, most have rejected the Messiah. The New Covenant is called the better covenant and it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 3, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,644 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,831 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Okay. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 4, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,644 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,831 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 The Law of Moses The Law of Christ Fresh debate anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzephanyahu Posted February 5, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 5, 2019 Shalom JohnD, Having been a Christian, then a Messianic, and then a Christian again, I have learned this: The Torah is good and valid. Yes, it still applies as our guidance for what pleases Yahweh, for holy living and for revealing great mysteries. However, a lot of it doesn't apply if we follow the two greatest commandments - Love Yahweh and to love our neighbour. Then, such judgements and rulings are not appropriate as violations shouldn't be made. So yes, the Torah is good and valid for gentile Christians as well, as Acts 15:21 approves. Following and understanding its statutes is expected I believe. Yet, we do not get our righteousness or salvation from following the Torah, as I think everyone would agree with. And, if we fail to keep the Torah, it will be forgiven, if we can forgive it in others. Consider the incident in John 8 deeply with this in mind. Yahweh must be just, but he prefers mercy. For me, when a Christian Gentile can read Psalm 119 and love it and yet not be tied up legalism, it's a very good sign. Love & Shalom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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