Andrew Wabomba Posted August 31, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 46 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/21/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 31, 2013 Most Christians would readily agree that in some way or another, physical healing is included as part of Jesus’ atonement. If it is not received in this life, definitely it will be in the next one. But the real question that causes division is, “Does the atonement of Jesus guarantee physical healing in this life?” When put this way, even the most diehard Pentecostal would admit to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted August 31, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.61 Reputation: 27,842 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 31, 2013 Andrew, We ARE healed by His stripes,we are healed....whether or not we receive the manifestation of that healing in our time may very well be another thing....I just don't know but I do know that the cancer that attacked my physical body has been miraculously removed............May His Will be done!Glory to God in the Name of Jesus God bless us all,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry1023 Posted August 31, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 427 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 156 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/29/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/20/1980 Share Posted August 31, 2013 To answer your question,yes,to him that believe all things are possible,what is sicknes,even (HIV)positive turn to negative,at the mention of the name of Jesus,it all depends on your faith and believe,there are some christian that doesn't believed in drugs,when ever they fail sick,they will go to God in prayer,and God will healed them,and is working for them,even the doctors call him the great physician,for this very purpose Jesus was made manifest,it's not the will God for his children to die in sicknes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted September 2, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2013 For me...I believe God does not guarantee physical healing in the atonement, by nature of what atonement is, which is all about reconciliation and making man right before God....therefore in the passage from Isaiah 53, we are healed of those things preventing this...the affect of our transgressions, iniquities, and those things that would disturb our shalom (not our peace as the world knows peace). Now can God heal? Yeah and Amen. Does God heal? Yeah and Amen. Always in every case? Sorry...no! That's His prerogative...did He heal Paul of his thorn in the flesh? No! Did He heal Timothy's digestive problem? No! How about Hezekiah's boils? No (but He did tell Isaiah of the medicine to use. I realize some theologians today preach a health and wealth gospel but they are clearly mistaken. This does not mean I am saying that He does not do so as on many occasions I have been with others and witnessed His healing (sometimes spontaneous but mostly in faithfulness to His word). There is also a time that God foreknows when each of us will pass over and for us this is gain. In His love Brother Paul Amen and amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted September 6, 2013 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 545 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 116 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted September 6, 2013 For me...I believe God does not guarantee physical healing in the atonement, by nature of what atonement is, which is all about reconciliation and making man right before God....therefore in the passage from Isaiah 53, we are healed of those things preventing this...the affect of our transgressions, iniquities, and those things that would disturb our shalom (not our peace as the world knows peace). Now can God heal? Yeah and Amen. Does God heal? Yeah and Amen. Always in every case? Sorry...no! That's His prerogative...did He heal Paul of his thorn in the flesh? No! Did He heal Timothy's digestive problem? No! How about Hezekiah's boils? No (but He did tell Isaiah of the medicine to use. I realize some theologians today preach a health and wealth gospel but they are clearly mistaken. This does not mean I am saying that He does not do so as on many occasions I have been with others and witnessed His healing (sometimes spontaneous but mostly in faithfulness to His word). There is also a time that God foreknows when each of us will pass over and for us this is gain. In His love Brother Paul Yes..I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted September 9, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,257 Content Per Day: 3.32 Reputation: 16,675 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2013 I believe it is made available thereby. In Matthew 8:17 quotes Isaiah 53:4 He Himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses." NKJV It does not obviously guaranee anyone's healing anymore than did His death and resurrection guarentee the salvation of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted September 10, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.61 Reputation: 27,842 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 10, 2013 Blessings to all, Is healing provided for in the atonement,yes-definately !I am living proof ,having had stage IV incurable cancer.I must agree with Brother Paul,I do feel he has said it best.I,as a living testimony for God,have been miraculously healed and yet there remains "my thorn"(many physical afflictions as a result of cancer)which I do believe God has not removed as a reminder of what He has done.God so mercifully and lovingly has spared my life.....if it were not for my thorn perhaps I would quickly forget what He has done and fail to give Him the glory . Nothing is impossible for God,He heals who and when He will heal....we can claim our healing by Jesus stripes with the authority He gives us from our position of victory but if is not according to His will then it will not be done....Sometimes He has a greater purpose for our good and the good of others by not healing......the result should always give Him the glory.... Let His will be done,not ours...in the matchless and mighty name of Christ Jesus. With love,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 10, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,260 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,988 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 10, 2013 not everyone is healed and no I don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts