Is listening to secular music wrong?

[soulwinner]

A WARNING TO PASTORS

"...It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves" (Matt 21:13).

This verse has real meaning today in light of religious rock. God's temple was not intended to become a den of thieves. This verse says: "ye have made it", refering to the fact that it was the religious leaders that allowed the temple to go from a house of prayer to a den of thieves.

Today church leaders and pastors have an awesome responsibility and they will give an account as to how they pastored a church under their charge. If the pastor allows foolishness and evil to come in, it will affect God's blood- bought people in a negative way by causing worldliness, carnality, and backsliding. On the other hand, if they keep out evil and concentrate on building up God's people with the Word of God, the church will grow and mature. "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood" (Acts 20:28).

The tragedy of the religious rock scene is that this demonic music would never have made it into the churches if the pastors and church leaders had obeyed God and closed the door to this evil.

The following is a warning for any pastor or church leader who takes his job lightly and is not committed to building up and protecting God's church:

"Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they shewed difference between the unclean and the clean,..." (Ezek 22:26).

"And ye have not kept the charge of mine holy things: but ye have set keepers of my charge in my sanctuary for yourselves...Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them. Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord God, and they shall bear their iniquity. And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed" (Ezek 44:8,11-13).

[soulwinner]

DANGEROUS REASONING...

ARGUMENT #1 Christian rock can't be wrong. Look at all the people who go forward at the concerts. Look at how popular God has made these bands.

ANSWER: So-called results do not mean God is behind it. The Lord Jesus said in Matthew 7:15,21-23 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves....Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity".

The Lord Jesus also said that many will be deceived by false prophets and false Christs. "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold....for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect" Matthew 24:11,12,24.

*** (Note * An altar call at a religious rock concert can be likened to a wolf giving altar calls to chickens!!!)

ARGUMENT #2 But Jesus went out and mingled with sinners.

ANSWER: The Lord Jesus never went into a den of iniquity nor did He copy the ways of the ungodly. The Bible says: "For such a high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;" Hebrews 7:26. "I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world" John 17:14.

ARGUMENT #3 We have to use Rock Music because this is the only way the youth of this generation can be reached.

ANSWER: The Bible answers this directly in 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 "Be ye not unequally yolked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty". Also, "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe" (1 Cor 1:21). the ungodly and use them for "soulwinning", but rather

The Word of God does not say we are to go out and borrow the evil ways of we are commanded to come out and separate ourselves from evil. The Word of God states further in James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God".

[soulwinner]

........ WARNING ........

"Christian Rock" is destructive to the Church as it leads God's people into sensuality and compromise. If you sincerely love The Lord Jesus Christ and you are involved with this music, then obey the Lord and forsake this unclean thing.

We now have: Christian Rock, Christian New Wave, Christian Heavy Metal, Christian Punk. What are these rebels going to advocate next? Christian drug use, Christian Witchcraft, Christian Pornography???

"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny Him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate" Titus 1:16.

"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him....For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works" 2 Corinthians 11:3,4,13-15.

"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ....Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities....Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Korah. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever" Jude 4,8,11-13.

BY THEIR OWN WORDS (They condemn themselves)

"Thou art snared with the words of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of thy mouth" (Prov. 6:2).

AMY GRANT

"I want to play hardball in this business. I want to be on the same level professionally with performers in all areas of music. I love to hear Billy Joel, Kenny Loggins, and the Doobie Brothers. Why not? I aim to bridge the gap between Christian and pop." (Time Mar/85)

" Grant's also pragmatic about her career. Regarding her album covers and publicity photos, which portray her as a sexy, attractive young woman. The Christian pop star says,' I'm trying to look sexy to sell a record. But what is sexy? To me it's never been taking my shirt off or sticking my tongue out. I feel that a Christian young woman in the eighties is very sexual'.....'When he {Prince} started humping the stage, I got a little embarrassed', says the twenty-four-year-old Grant, sitting in the bright sunlight near the swimming pool at her Universal City hotel. 'I quit looking. When he thrust his crotch up into the florescent shower,'she continues in her Southern drawl, 'I thought if someone wants to do this at home, fine. If I want to do this at home, fine. I don't want to watch Prince doing it. I didn't get off watching him create the illusion of masturbating'" (Rolling Stone - June 1985)

STRYPER

"The hair is long and the screams are loud'n'clear. The clothes are tight, earrings dangling from their ears. No matter how we look, we'll always praise His name. And, if you believe, you've got to do the same." (Stryper from Loud'n'Clear)

"If you had to guess their name, you might think of the Devil's Disciples or the Beelzebubs. Or perhaps the Killer Bees, which is what the four young men on stage look like in their tight leather-and spandex costumes crisscrossed with garish black and yellow stripes. Piles of makeup, spikey hair, and enough dangling chains to tie up half the elephants in Africa complete the picture of the up-to-date heavy metal rock group. Even the music, the sound of a swarm of angry insects electronically amplified several thousand times, fits the image." (Time Mar/85)

[soulwinner]

REZ BAND

"A new album, Between Heaven'N'Hell (their eighth), recently hit the streets, and with it, Rez begins its campaign aimed at winning over the secular mainstream rock audience....Rez has made a number of other moves designed to facilitate their transition to the secular market. They've pacted with a New York-based management/marketing firm on a four-month trial basis. They have signed with the venerable Diversified Management Agency (DMA) out of Detroit who will be handling concert bookings. (Other heavy DMA clients include the Scorpions, Quiet Riot, and Autograph.)...In order to do that, Rez is all too aware, they're going to have to 'play by certain rules,' as Herrin puts it. They've already stopped the practice of altar calls in concert, and they're toning down overt references to the Lord. In general, they want to present themselves, first and foremost, as a rock band." (Contempory Christian Magazine - April 1986).

MICHAEL W. SMITH

"The people coming into the concerts are ready to rock. They come out and want to have a good time. Some people need to get out there and preach to them. Ask them for a decision at the end, but that's not my calling. The kids I see are just ready to kick it out and have fun." (CCM June 1986)

STEVE TAYLOR

"I appeared on the Dove Awards last year and I still feel uncomfortable about it. I really don't belong there because I'm not really part of that Gospel mainstream. Sure, I'm a Christian and that influences the way I write songs but that's just being honest, everybody pushes a point of view." (CCM Feb 1986).

LEON PATILLO

"I'm going to make a stand. I'm going to do something different. I'm going to let the world stand up and say, 'Wow, man, did you see that guy?' And it's going to be a perfect setup. As soon as they've got their mouths open or their hearts open and they're going 'Wow', I'm gonna throw Jesus right down their throats." (CCM Oct. 1985).

MYLON LeFEVRE

"Our music is rock and roll. We don't even tell anybody it's contemporary Christian music...We are a rock'n'roll band. We sound like one, we look like one, and at the end of the night we smell like one....Its a rock'n'roll show that is a ministry. You can't separate the two. Rock'n'roll is what I do. I put on a good show. I entertain those people, I have a good time with them.......One of the things Mylon may be referring to is a new album due out soon from CBS. He and the band are going by the name, Look Up. 'It's a Christian album, but you really have to know the Word to know it. CBS ain't gonna know it. Every song on there - every note on there - is played by born- again, Spirit-filled Christians. We had a good time making the record. It's an anointed record and it's got a good message, but it's very shallow. We really avoided certain words and phrases, you know. It's just about themes." (CCM Mar 1986)

STRYKEN

"'A lot of intelligent guys out there are real headbangers. They love metal, but they've had enough. They're tired of hearing every sleazy metal band from Anaheim to Zimbabwe brag about how much they drink, drug, and screw.' Not exactly churchy language, but then Stryken professes to be a band not for the pulpit but for the streets" (CCM Mar 1987)

RELIGIOUS ROCK AND ROLL

There is a style of music which has been invading the Church of Jesus Christ which is godless, immoral, and which leads Christians into rebellion and compromise with the world. That style of music is "Christian" Rock an Roll. The term Rock & Roll was given to name a form of music in the 1950's. The style of music was evil from its beginning and it was appropriately given the name Rock & Roll. This name was given by the world and it stands for the practice of fornication by teenagers in the back seat of a car.

The primary axiom of music evaluation is that there is no such thing as amoral music. Music is either good or evil. God says we are responsible for everything we say, do, or think. The Bible says: "...That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment" (Matt. 12:36). "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad" (2 Cor 5:10).

The adherents of "Christian" Rock claim that their music is necessary in order to win the lost to Christ. However, they overlook the fact that God has ordained preaching to win the lost and not music. The Bible says: "For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe" (1 Cor 1:21).

[soulwinner]

Music has two purposes:

(To worship and glorify God.

To edify and build up Christians.

"Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord" (Eph 5:19). "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord" (Col 3:16).

Music is not necessary to win the lost but it is a form of worship and praise to God. Since music is a form of worship it is corrupted when mixed with carnality. The worship of God must be carried out with purity. The world can take clean music and make it unclean, but Christians cannot take unclean music and make it clean. (See Haggai 2:12-13)

We are commanded not to touch the unclean thing. This also applies to the music we listen to. The Bible says: "Be ye not unequally yolked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said I will dwell in them, and walk in them and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty".

The Word of God does not say we are to go out and borrow the evil ways of the ungodly and use them for "soulwinning", but rather we are commanded to come out and separate ourselves from evil. The Word of God states further in James 4:4 " Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God".

There are some people who say that "Christian" Rock can't be wrong because of all the people who go forward at the concerts. They also mention that these bands are popular because God is blessing them. However; so called results do not mean that God is behind it. The end does not justify the means (That is the basis of humanism). The Lord Jesus said that many will be deceived by false prophets and false Christs. "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold....for there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect" (Matt 24:11,12,24).

There may be sincere conversions at these concerts because God will always honour His Word no matter under what circumstances it is given. However, it is one thing to be saved, and another to grow and develop into a victorious Christian. The Lord Jesus warned in (Matt 7:15,21-23). "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves....Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity".

Another argument is that Jesus went out and mingled with sinners. However, the Lord Jesus never went into a den of iniquity nor did He copy the ways of the ungodly. "For such a high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;" (Heb 7:26). "I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world" (John 17:14).

Do we take drugs to win addicts to Christ?

Do we use foul language to witness to those who curse?

Do we steal to identify with robbers?

Do we draw lewd pictures to present Christ to the pornographer?

Do we use carnal music to gain a hearing with the world?

The absurdity of the above methods is obvious. Therefore, we hope you can see how wrong it is to use carnal, worldly music to present a holy message to a Christless world.

"...Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good" (Rom 12:9).

"They profess that they know God; but in works they deny Him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate" (Titus 1:16).

"Christian" Rock is destructive to the Church as it leads God's people into sensuality, compromise, and worldliness. If you sincerely love the Lord Jesus Christ and you are involved with this godless music, then why won't you obey the Lord and forsake this unclean thing???

What kind of hold does religious rock have on people when they refuse to give up their demonic music? How can a person profess that he loves God and at the same time embrace such evil? How low must religious rock sink before God's people wake up from their slumber?

"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him....For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works" (2 Cor 11:3,4,13-15).

"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ....Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities....Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Korah. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear; clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever" (Jude 4,8,11-13).

[soulwinner]

CONCLUSION

"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things" (Phil 3:18,19).

"Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes" (Rom 3:13-18).

When music has any of the following characteristics beware; you are in danger of the demonic:

Deliberate Sensuality: This includes sexual clothing, erotic movements, flirtatious come-on's designed to sexually tease, and breathy voice designed to arouse an audience.

Clothes that are not in line with Biblical modesty: This includes sexual, revealing clothes that suggest an unholy lifestyle.

Unedifying speech: This includes stories, jokes, or lyrics which have double meanings or have sexual overtones.

Extremely loud music: Thunderous decibel levels that impair hearing and drown out lyrics .

This booklet closes on a note of sadness. We mourn over the tragedy of the loss of discernment among the body of Christ. We have shown how this evil music has gradually infiltrated the church with the blessing of those in authority, until many congregations no longer know the difference between the sacred and the profane. We have shown throughout the history of secular rock and roll the decline and destruction of values of decency and morality in society. Will the church partake of this same downward slide? Will the church abandon its role of salt and light and put on the same garments of darkness and sensuality that the world wraps itself in? The unsaved are desperately hoping to see something different in Christianity. When a Christian lowers his standards and walks arm in arm with the lost down the same broad road, the unsaved can only laugh and sneer at the hypocrisy of it all. The fact that millions are perishing in hell should cause us to examine our walk and methods of evangelism. We have nothing but love in our hearts toward those who sincerely want to reach a lost generation for the Lord Jesus Christ. However, when Christians seek to be conformed to this evil world rather than to God's standards of righteousness and holiness, it is a cause of deep concern. Consequently, we have endeavoured through this study to offer a brotherly reproof to those whom we feel have been misled. We ask only that the reader prayerfully consider the scriptures, the information, and the arguments in the text. Our prayer is that God would lead you out of the mud and filth of this world into a deeper walk with Himself through Jesus Christ our Lord.

(Copy and distribute this tract as needed)

[apothanein kerdos]

Grrr, I hate the, "I'm going to post articles" approach. At least give proper citings to it.

To the Christian, God says in His Word: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them" (Eph. 5:11). The Lord Jesus said in Matt 7:18,20 "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit....Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." The question this verse brings to mind is: What kind of fruit does rock and roll produce? There is definite fruit to rock and roll and all of it is evil. This demonic music has been the major tool and vehicle through which Satan popularized suicide, drug abuse, immorality, perversions (bestiality etc.), blasphemy against God and sacred things, homosexuality, occultism, and satanism. Now God has said to Christians not to have any fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness. Rock and roll is an unfruitful work of darkness and Christians have no business trying to imitate those who are on the broad road to destruction. Christians also have no business listening to secular rock as it is all an abomination to God.

This is actually a false arguement. It ignores many things and concepts taught in scripture and also has a logical fault inherently set within it. The arguement that you set is that because rock was intended for evil the sound is inherently evil. Unfortunately music (just the sound) is an amoral issue. While it can strike up emotions it has no spiritual meaning behind it. In fact, one is hard to prove this. Regardless, let's go ahead and for the sake of arguement say that even the beat can have evil connotations behind it. Thus, do we as Christians have a spiritual right to use this music to try and glorify God with? Absolultely! There are a plethera of scriptures that talk about how things sacrificed to idols (evil things) are still applicable for Christians. Likewise, we know that God will use evil events and turn them into good and use them for His ultimate good. To assert taht God does not have the power to make the tone of music be used for His good is to limit God.

God also says in His Word: "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and lust of the eyes and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world" (1 John 2:15- 16). "As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance. But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy" (1 Pet 1:14-16). "Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God" (2 Cor 7:1). Finally, how can satanic Christians be holy as we are commanded when an earring is hung in the ear, sexual clothes are worn, and a rebellious nightclub atmosphere is created by those who claim to worship God?

The verse in 1 John is talking about holding the morals of the world. After all the word agapeo (used in this passage) means, "love of morals". Also, how is an earing sinful?

The same spirit of rock and roll which includes: the spirit of rebellion, the spirit of immorality and perversion, and the spirit of death is now being brought into the churches under the guise of religious rock and roll.

The problem with this statement is that it assumes and doesn't prove. Before one can make such a statement one must first establish that their sentence is true. Unfortunately he doesn't do this at all.

These religious rockers, like the secular, play their music at the same ear-splitting level and give off the same nightclub bar-room atmosphere with all the coloured lights, smoke pots, and special effects.

Where is the proof that they smoke pot? Likewise, how are lights and loud music a sin?

Little do these religious rockers realize, but as they identify and imitate the secular rock scene they are indirectly giving approval to that type of morality and lifestyle.

Proof?

Note: The reason rock and roll is played so loud is because at high decibel levels a person's conscience and inihibitions are numbed. That individual can be more easily programmed to accept Satan's standards instead of God's.

Proof?

One definite fruit of religious rock is that it leads it's followers back to involvement with secular rock.

Proof?

As already pointed out, at religious rock concerts some of the bands play secular rock songs to "warm" up the audience.

Proof?

Well now, i think you get the point.

Soul, if you want to have an intelligent coversation then it'd be nice for you to form your own thoughts and opinions. I won't debate articles because it doesn't give them a chance to respond. As these words are not your own (and I doubt you could muster up the effort to defend them), I will give you the chance for you to explain in your own words why Christian rock is evil.

[soulwinner]

super jew you said in an earlier post you didnt want to be attacked now you are doing the same to me when the whole time i have not attacked you. I have called you on your sin and you cant handle that hey dont apply the scripture just debate debate debate. Like i said i dont beleive you are filled with the spirit and are disobeying all based off of scripture you listen to music that is unspiritual by your own admission. Pro 5:12 And say, How have I hated instruction, and my heart despised reproof;

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Pro 10:17 He [is in] the way of life that keepeth instruction: but he that refuseth reproof erreth.

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Pro 12:1 Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof [is] brutish.

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Pro 13:18 Poverty and shame [shall be to] him that refuseth instruction: but he that regardeth reproof shall be honoured.

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Pro 15:5 A fool despiseth his father's instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent.

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Pro 15:10 Correction [is] grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: [and] he that hateth reproof shall die.

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Pro 15:31 The ear that heareth the reproof of life abideth among the wise.

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Pro 15:32 He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding.

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Pro 17:10 A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

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Pro 29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left [to himself] bringeth his mother to shame.

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2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

[Jon The Jew]

Soulwinner, no one is paying attention to you. There is a reason for that; people avoid legalists, which is why many of the non-Christians I know would ignore you, and have a plethora of reasons not to become a Christian.

[dgolvach]

Funny, I always thought Rock and Roll had heavy roots in African American Church music. Black Gospel is an amazing art form that glorifies God in my opinion. Maybe Satan stole God's music rather than the other way around. Anyway I play guitar every Sunday at my church( Church of the Nazarene). We play alot of upbeat modern stuff and I find it very worshipful. We mix it with some of the great hymns of the past as well.

Dan