enoob57 Posted September 24, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,468 Content Per Day: 8.00 Reputation: 21,604 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I was around one who prayed in a group and demanded from God in this prayer... I was so disturbed in my spirit that I thought how can a person who knows God speak this way? I began apologizing to the Lord and asking for forgiveness of just being there and the prayer ended. I know of only one being that wants God to be subservient and would be so bold as to speak this way to God- the rest rebuke such foolishness in The Name of Jesus... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted September 24, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Test all things; hold fast what is good. I Thess 5:21 In some circles, they practically worship someone they think is annointed..that person just cannot seem to do wrong no matter how wrong they are That kind of adoration occurs everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly Hobbie Posted September 25, 2013 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 81 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/12/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/08/1973 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I personally have lost faith in "The Word Of Faith Movement. I have been hurt by their lies so many times I don't know where to start I was once told that God would not answer my prayers no matter how much faith I had because my husband didn't have faith the second time he was jobless in our 15yrs of marriage. I have been told by WOF that I was going to go home from a bible study and as long as I held on to the faith I had my kids would be healed of autism and my then 3 yr old son would be talking ....that was 10 yrs ago and neither of my kids talk still. I could go on and on why I have issues with the WOF movement but it would be futile to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted September 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I personally have lost faith in "The Word Of Faith Movement. I have been hurt by their lies so many times I don't know where to start I was once told that God would not answer my prayers no matter how much faith I had because my husband didn't have faith the second time he was jobless in our 15yrs of marriage. I have been told by WOF that I was going to go home from a bible study and as long as I held on to the faith I had my kids would be healed of autism and my then 3 yr old son would be talking ....that was 10 yrs ago and neither of my kids talk still. I could go on and on why I have issues with the WOF movement but it would be futile to continue. I understand. I know a couple who were told that their daughter was born deaf because of their sin, in a church, in front of the congregation. They have never stepped into a church again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted September 25, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,800 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,246 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2013 I have seen people disillusioned by wof who have been shattered. That they have held on to the Lord despite the harm done to them by that movement is amazing. They have struggled to retain faith in God. Previously their faith was in the movement and not in the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamnot Posted September 25, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 221 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/23/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/21/1945 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I look at it this way: Being on track with God's thoughts and ways is like hitting a target, but for all practical purposes no one is able to hit the bulls eye on the target, but some are closer to the bulls eye than others. I have done quite a bit of reading on the "Culture of Narcissism" in which we live and it's tendency to spawn narcissistic personalities. Narcissism is creeping into Christianity in our time and creating persons who develop a sense of entitlement with bad boundaries. One thing that especially concerns me is the propensity of some television ministers to be abusive of income tax breaks for self-aggrandizement purposes. This creates a viable argument for reductionists and secular minded people against Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted September 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I personally have lost faith in "The Word Of Faith Movement. I have been hurt by their lies so many times I don't know where to start I was once told that God would not answer my prayers no matter how much faith I had because my husband didn't have faith the second time he was jobless in our 15yrs of marriage. I have been told by WOF that I was going to go home from a bible study and as long as I held on to the faith I had my kids would be healed of autism and my then 3 yr old son would be talking ....that was 10 yrs ago and neither of my kids talk still. I could go on and on why I have issues with the WOF movement but it would be futile to continue. Well, healing takes place through a living faith. It isn't always instantaneous. You need to continue in the hope for healing. Did you put your faith in what others said or in the word of God and His promises? His promise is to heal all our diseases. Healing is in the Atonement. We need to be wise enough to be like the Bereans were---to check out what our leaders say against the word of God. If they say something that is contrary, we have the obligation to ignore it. There are many, many people placed in spiritual leadership that do not belong there, and not only in the WOF---God hasn't placed them there---which is why we must be diligent in making sure we receive what is from God and to reject what is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted September 30, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted September 30, 2013 Test all things; hold fast what is good. I Thess 5:21 In some circles, they practically worship someone they think is annointed..that person just cannot seem to do wrong no matter how wrong they are That kind of adoration occurs everywhere. I have no idea what you mean but sounds sarcastic. At any rate, WOF is not something to be held onto...it is simply not scriptural. Obviously you disagree. I remember much of what you had to say going back over a year now I believe so rehashing will most likely achieve the same end as before. Sadly, that would be nothing worth repeating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted September 30, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Test all things; hold fast what is good. I Thess 5:21 In some circles, they practically worship someone they think is annointed..that person just cannot seem to do wrong no matter how wrong they are That kind of adoration occurs everywhere. I have no idea what you mean but sounds sarcastic. At any rate, WOF is not something to be held onto...it is simply not scriptural. Obviously you disagree. I remember much of what you had to say going back over a year now I believe so rehashing will most likely achieve the same end as before. Sadly, that would be nothing worth repeating. True word of faith is simply believing in the word of God. The excesses are what people are having a problem with, and it is those excesses that people lump together and make WOF appear as something it isn't. I have seen people's lives hurt by the false as well, but the true WOF churches do no harm. Every denomination has its abuses, and its spiritual error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 2, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,468 Content Per Day: 8.00 Reputation: 21,604 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Test all things; hold fast what is good. I Thess 5:21 In some circles, they practically worship someone they think is annointed..that person just cannot seem to do wrong no matter how wrong they are That kind of adoration occurs everywhere. I have no idea what you mean but sounds sarcastic. At any rate, WOF is not something to be held onto...it is simply not scriptural. Obviously you disagree. I remember much of what you had to say going back over a year now I believe so rehashing will most likely achieve the same end as before. Sadly, that would be nothing worth repeating. True word of faith is simply believing in the word of God. The excesses are what people are having a problem with, and it is those excesses that people lump together and make WOF appear as something it isn't. I have seen people's lives hurt by the false as well, but the true WOF churches do no harm. Every denomination has its abuses, and its spiritual error. It would be better to read the what MG posted as where WOF came from before you try to make it clean... http://www.gotquesti...#ixzz2fhOkHwbxI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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