NT is contradicting to OT?

[silviawang]

In OT,in Joshua

GOD commanded the Israelites totally killing  the persons in the cities their conquered, even including the kids and infants:

Joshua 11

¹¹And they put to the sword all who were in it, utterly destroying them; there was no one left who breathed, and he burned Hazor with fire.

But in NT,in Matthew 5

43 ‘You have heard that it was said, “You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.” ⁴⁴But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you

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So we can use JESUS’ teaching to blame God’s command in Joshua, and even Moses, David, Samuel ,killed their enemies without any mercy.

And in Saul’s case, Saul and Israelites had the pity on king agag, but Samuel killed him according to GOD’s command, and according to JESUS’ teaching in Matthew, Saul is right, Samuel is wrong

 

 

So how to explain the Contradiction

[Hall7]

I noticed that about the O.T also, God seems a lot meaner than Jesus for some reason, actually Jesus seems a lot more loving and peaceful compare to His father . There must be an explanation I'm sure, the Bible is a complicated thing to understand unless it's explained to you correctly...

[kwikphilly]

Hi Silvia,

    God bless you,there is no contradiction......and everything in the Bible must be taken in its entire context....The God of the OT may seem like a God of vengeance,showing no mercy and alot of people think Jesus told them something new,showing that God is a loving and compassionate God,untrue....the same way you (and countless others )are misinterpreting the Scriptures ,so were the people Jesus was talking to.

    These were legal matters of the State and the authority was given to the judges to uphold the laws .....ie:you have heard that it was said,love thy neighbor and hate thine enemy....Jesus does not give them a new command these commands were from the beginning (lev 19:18 you shall love thy neighbor)the people were using the scriptures out of context to justify their individual actions(like an eye for an eye)these were for the judges to decide  as Jesus had to restate what they really meant because it was not meant for an individual...refer to Matt22:37-38,Matt5 38-39 and43-44

    In the matter of Saul,he directly opposed Gods command....you can't confuse legal matters of State with people being accountable for their own actions and that is what Jesus wanted to clarify

    The elimination of entire cities were cities of wicked,idol worshipping ,evil people that literally spit in Gods eye.....they could have chosen to worship the One true God but they chose to live however they pleased and ignore the Great I Am...they witnessed time and time again the power and might of the God of the Jews

    God is the same Loving and Merciful God that He was from th beginning of time,in the Old Testament in the New Testament and forever.May you be blessed in hearing His Word and ask the Holy Spirit for Wisdom & understanding....He will reveal many treasures in His Word,He will reveal Himself to you in the Name of Jesus

                                                                                                           With love,in Christ-Kwik

[Hall7]

And there's the explanation. Thanks Kwik. I really wish they didn't make the Bible so complicated to understand at times though... 

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

I was looking into the why of a few of them and heres one that I have found that somewhat helped a bit. Apparently they did a "no no" and God warred on them till he put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.

 

 

Exodus 17:14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this or a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.

Exodus 17:16 For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.

 

Heres the reason

Duet 25:17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt;

Duet 25:18 How he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, even all that were feeble behind thee, when thou wast faint and weary; and he feared not God.

So Amalek showed no mercy

Duet 25:19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.

1Sam 15:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
 

Therefore no mercy is being shown back

2Sam 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

 

He was even angry at Saul when His wrath wasnt executed here...

1Sam 28:18 Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this thing unto thee this day.

Whereas Jeus said, ye have heard hate your enemies, but now I say unto love your enemies. There they were to execute his wrath, whereas we execute His mercy (avenge not ourselves and leave room for wrath). But it also says judgment without mercy will be shown to those who have shown no mercy, And that seemed to be the start of the whole thing with Amalek (He showed no mercy) in Duet 25:17-18. It does speak of God being willing to show His wrath, and what Saul didnt do (in the execution of it) Samuel finished and says...

1Sam 15:3 And Samuel said, As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD in Gilgal.

 

Even as it says...

 

 Lev 24:20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.

 

And again...

 

 Duet 19:21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

 

Then Jesus says

 

 Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

 

 Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

 

 

His serverity and his goodness are shown, even as His wrath and his mercy are shown. Jesus said his doctrine wasn't His, but the Fathers who sent Him, so it cant be that Jesus is nicer (lol) That was cute

 

[Hall7]

 

 

 

His serverity and his goodness are shown, even as His wrath and his mercy are shown. Jesus said his doctrine wasn't His, but the Fathers who sent Him, so it cant be that Jesus is nicer (lol) That was cute

 

 

 

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His serverity and his goodness are shown, even as His wrath and his mercy are shown. Jesus said his doctrine wasn't His, but the Fathers who sent Him, so it cant be that Jesus is nicer (lol) That was cute

 

 

 

 

Are you making fun of me? lol Believe it or not there was a time when I was mad at God but loved Jesus

 

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

 

 

 

 

His serverity and his goodness are shown, even as His wrath and his mercy are shown. Jesus said his doctrine wasn't His, but the Fathers who sent Him, so it cant be that Jesus is nicer (lol) That was cute

 

 

 

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His serverity and his goodness are shown, even as His wrath and his mercy are shown. Jesus said his doctrine wasn't His, but the Fathers who sent Him, so it cant be that Jesus is nicer (lol) That was cute

 

 

 

 

Are you making fun of me? lol Believe it or not there was a time when I was mad at God but loved Jesus

 

 

 

 

Um, yeah... like *TOTALLY* Hall

 

Im getting ya back, for your "surfer dude" comment (when you were poking fun at me)

 

I cant blame you, some things are harder to reconcile, I sure haven't reconciled everything myself, but I sure have fun trying

[Hall7]

 

 

 

 

 

His serverity and his goodness are shown, even as His wrath and his mercy are shown. Jesus said his doctrine wasn't His, but the Fathers who sent Him, so it cant be that Jesus is nicer (lol) That was cute

 

 

 

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His serverity and his goodness are shown, even as His wrath and his mercy are shown. Jesus said his doctrine wasn't His, but the Fathers who sent Him, so it cant be that Jesus is nicer (lol) That was cute

 

 

 

 

Are you making fun of me? lol Believe it or not there was a time when I was mad at God but loved Jesus

 

 

 

 

Um, yeah... like *TOTALLY* Hall

 

Im getting ya back, for your "surfer dude" comment (when you were poking fun at me)

 

I cant blame you, some things are harder to reconcile, I sure haven't reconciled everything myself, but I sure have fun trying

 

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[Guest AFlameOfFire]

Lovin' da bling Hall, its suits chu ((Hugs)) God bless you too bro!

[Hall7]

Lovin' da bling Hall, its suits chu ((Hugs)) God bless you too bro!

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