"Christians" Who Continue to Sin

[conservator]

 

 

 

She has been divorced for about one year and since that time has had sex with numerous men often after their first date.

 

 

 How do you know that ? 

 

She said this to my wife.  

 

 

My thought is that if it, was told in confidence to your wife, then your wife should not have told you. 

 

How can your wife help this person who confided in her if she repeats what has been said in confidence.?

Had the woman wanted everyone to know she would have told you as well. 

 

I pray your wife can help and guide this friend. 

It's easy to judge and even harder to not judge and be there to help someone. 

 

You misunderstood.  I was present in the room when she said this.  That's why I said the discussion got around to her personal life and how she was doing.   She did not say anything in confidence to my wife.  That's when I disagreed with her and cited the Bible verses I did.  

[Fez]

 

 

 

 

She has been divorced for about one year and since that time has had sex with numerous men often after their first date.

 

 

 How do you know that ? 

 

She said this to my wife.  

 

 

My thought is that if it, was told in confidence to your wife, then your wife should not have told you. 

 

How can your wife help this person who confided in her if she repeats what has been said in confidence.?

Had the woman wanted everyone to know she would have told you as well. 

 

I pray your wife can help and guide this friend. 

It's easy to judge and even harder to not judge and be there to help someone. 

 

You misunderstood.  I was present in the room when she said this.  That's why I said the discussion got around to her personal life and how she was doing.   She did not say anything in confidence to my wife.  That's when I disagreed with her and cited the Bible verses I did.  

 

I am with you here. She is sinning, and she should be told and ministered to. She is doing this for what? Some sort of validation of her self worth, her need to be loved probably? She just needs to be guided and Ministered to, without judgement (at least that is what I would do), and led to Jesus and His amazing Love.

 

If she gets to understand how much our Lord loves her, the other stuff will seem like what it really is. Stuff that does not honor Him, and that leads to despair and a lonely life.

[BFP]

Well, being a ministers daughter, I am sure she knows all the verses you are quoting her, and she also knows where she is coming short.  It isnt up to you or your wife to convict her, it is up to God, since she claims to be his child.

Being a child of a minister is not easy...and many of us grow up with alot of vices, and at times rebellion against certain teachings.  In my household we were taught that consuming alchohol to any degree was a grevious sin.  I drink, much to the dismay of my father.  And many of you would probably try to convince me that it is totally wrong.

We all have our areas that we don't live up to God's standards.  ALL OF US.  That is why it is not up to us to judge...and by even thinking that maybe she isn't saved because she has divorces and slept with other men...well, that is jusdging her salvation...which is even worse than judging an action

[ncn]

Sorry I misunderstood you , I agree with Fez. 

[missmuffet]

Well, being a ministers daughter, I am sure she knows all the verses you are quoting her, and she also knows where she is coming short.  It isnt up to you or your wife to convict her, it is up to God, since she claims to be his child.

Being a child of a minister is not easy...and many of us grow up with alot of vices, and at times rebellion against certain teachings.  In my household we were taught that consuming alchohol to any degree was a grevious sin.  I drink, much to the dismay of my father.  And many of you would probably try to convince me that it is totally wrong.

We all have our areas that we don't live up to God's standards.  ALL OF US.  That is why it is not up to us to judge...and by even thinking that maybe she isn't saved because she has divorces and slept with other men...well, that is jusdging her salvation...which is even worse than judging an action

Their is nothing wrong with an occasional drink.The Bible only says it is a sin to be drunk.Drinking too much is a huge health risk.

[Fez]

 

Well, being a ministers daughter, I am sure she knows all the verses you are quoting her, and she also knows where she is coming short.  It isnt up to you or your wife to convict her, it is up to God, since she claims to be his child.

Being a child of a minister is not easy...and many of us grow up with alot of vices, and at times rebellion against certain teachings.  In my household we were taught that consuming alchohol to any degree was a grevious sin.  I drink, much to the dismay of my father.  And many of you would probably try to convince me that it is totally wrong.

We all have our areas that we don't live up to God's standards.  ALL OF US.  That is why it is not up to us to judge...and by even thinking that maybe she isn't saved because she has divorces and slept with other men...well, that is jusdging her salvation...which is even worse than judging an action

Their is nothing wrong with an occasional drink.The Bible only says it is a sin to be drunk.Drinking too much is a huge health risk.

 

Amen. Occasional being the operative word. (I average about two drinks a month I guess)

[conservator]

Well, being a ministers daughter, I am sure she knows all the verses you are quoting her, and she also knows where she is coming short.  It isnt up to you or your wife to convict her, it is up to God, since she claims to be his child.

Being a child of a minister is not easy...and many of us grow up with alot of vices, and at times rebellion against certain teachings.  In my household we were taught that consuming alchohol to any degree was a grevious sin.  I drink, much to the dismay of my father.  And many of you would probably try to convince me that it is totally wrong.

We all have our areas that we don't live up to God's standards.  ALL OF US.  That is why it is not up to us to judge...and by even thinking that maybe she isn't saved because she has divorces and slept with other men...well, that is jusdging her salvation...which is even worse than judging an action

 

My wife and I could not in good conscience say nothing to her or to allow her to think we condoned her life style.  When she left to return home we told her we would pray for her.

[conservator]

I have wrestled with this topic.  Thank you for your thoughtful replies.

[Fez]

Lets make this simple.

 

Conservator has been told in front of his wife, by his wife's friend, that she is sleeping with men on the first date. She has been raised a Christian and has accepted Jesus as her savior.

 

She has slipped a bit and is in sin. We have all been there in different ways. Sin I mean. She is no different to you and I to a degree. Do you gossip (come on not even just a little bit?), tell the occasional lie? Have the occasional bad though about someone? (come on, not even once?). Type the occasional testy post to someone on an internet site? (Want to see some?).

 

All she needs is Love and Ministry and prayer, and perhaps some other help that only fellowship can bring.

 

Her admission is a cry, not a boast.

 

She needs Love, and Grace, and prayer.

 

Don't we all, sinners that we are?

[BFP]

Being preachers/ministers kids we are "expected" to be more "perfect" than your average everyday churchgoer...and we know this from early childhood.  It wears on us bigtime.  Tongues wag as soon as a preachers kid does anything that might be considered a sin, because *we* of all people, should know better.  LOL!  Sorry but this post just hit me the wrong way because I know what standards I am supposed to be keeping as a preachers kid and there is no way i could ever live up to everyone elses ideas of who I should be simply because of my status. 

And the devil has a special appetite for destroying the families of those who minister.

Just defending someone I understand is all