Modesty

[Qnts2]

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

[GoldenEagle]

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

I was thinking the same thing Q. Modesty will vary from culture to culture.

You bring up a good point about 1 Timm 2... Braided hair and shaved heads...

How would you answer this question in red? Curious.

[GoldenEagle]

A. Why should Christians dress modest?

B. What are the guidelines for modesty?

I think question A has already been addresses on the thread. I believe Scripture has plenty to say on the matter.

I'd like to address the second question...

 

1. Modesty is defined by culture, context, and personal criteria. In many tribes in Africa and S. America for example women go about without wearing anything to cover their breasts. In India it is common for women to wear clothes that conceals the chest, butt, and hips. The stomach however, isn’t seen as that sensual. Men generally don’t wear shorts in India unless they’re tourists.

2. We can’t assume that everyone comes from the same background (culture) that we do. It should also be observed that the standards for modesty among those in the Christian community are much different than the standards for modesty of the ‘un-churched’.

And what of people who judge others because of their clothes? We need to remember that people who have never attended church before or have attended irregularly - the clothes they wear are the best they have. Consider this: they believe their flashy outfits are their ‘nice’ clothes, and wear them ON PURPOSE so that they can look ‘nice’ when they come to church!

We can very well hurt both A. our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ as well as B. those who are lost if we aren’t careful with our words and consider how we approach this subject.

 

3. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.

1 Samuel 16:7

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

Now tell me truthfully – which one of these do you think would please our Lord more?

Men:

The man who dresses with his best clothes and has a humble heart verses the man who wears a coat/tie and treats his wife poorly in the morning, yells at his kids on the way to church, etc.?

Women:

The woman who dons the best clothes she has, with a heart that is humble and seeking God, or the woman who checks off all the “don not’s” on her checklist before she comes to church in order to please man?

It seems to me that Jesus addressed this issue frequently.

Matthew 7:5

You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Matthew 15:7-9

You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”

 

The apostle John said something important on the matter too.

1 John 2:9

Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.

1 John 4:20

If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

God bless,

GE

[missmuffet]

 

 

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

I was thinking the same thing Q. Modesty will vary from culture to culture.

You bring up a good point about 1 Timm 2... Braided hair and shaved heads...

How would you answer this question in red? Curious.

 

If you see those with no clothes on in National Geographic it is because they live in the Jungle.That is the only why they know how to present themselves.No one sees them except creepy National Geographic photographers who want to capture the naked person living in the jungle.

[missmuffet]

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

I respect the Amish for their attire.It is modest.Some may think it is too much so but I don't.

[Qnts2]

 

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

I was thinking the same thing Q. Modesty will vary from culture to culture.

You bring up a good point about 1 Timm 2... Braided hair and shaved heads...

How would you answer this question in red? Curious.

 

 

Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

Dressing in a manner which is so different does attract attention.

 

Having grown up in a community which dresses different, the point is, I lived in the community so the manner of dress was common everyday dress. As the Amish say, it was plain. However, outside the community, it definitely drew attention. To those outside the community, it was anything but plain, or even modest. The differing clothes became a symbol of my difference. That can be good or bad.  Of course, teens thru 20's dress different then their parents to show individuality. It is a symbol of their difference.  

 

In an Amish community, they are dressing modestly, but outside of the Amish community, they attract attention. Amish dress is anything but dressing modestly to 'English'. Christians live in the world but are not of the world. Living in the world, I think you adapt to what is 'modest' in that culture.  

[missmuffet]

 

 

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

I was thinking the same thing Q. Modesty will vary from culture to culture.

You bring up a good point about 1 Timm 2... Braided hair and shaved heads...

How would you answer this question in red? Curious.

 

 

Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

Dressing in a manner which is so different does attract attention.

 

Having grown up in a community which dresses different, the point is, I lived in the community so the manner of dress was common everyday dress. As the Amish say, it was plain. However, outside the community, it definitely drew attention. To those outside the community, it was anything but plain, or even modest. The differing clothes became a symbol of my difference. That can be good or bad.  Of course, teens thru 20's dress different then their parents to show individuality. It is a symbol of their difference.  

 

In an Amish community, they are dressing modestly, but outside of the Amish community, they attract attention. Amish dress is anything but dressing modestly to 'English'. Christians live in the world but are not of the world. Living in the world, I think you adapt to what is 'modest' in that culture.  

 

The Amish do not want to recognize our world.We are outsiders.Do you blame them?Look at our world.It is dark and evil.Look at the way women dress in our world.I would take Amish apparel anyday over what I see at the grocery store.Very scary

[Qnts2]

 

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

I respect the Amish for their attire.It is modest.Some may think it is too much so but I don't.

 

From my perspective the Amish attire is not modest. It stands out and attracts attention.

[Qnts2]

 

 

 

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

I was thinking the same thing Q. Modesty will vary from culture to culture.

You bring up a good point about 1 Timm 2... Braided hair and shaved heads...

How would you answer this question in red? Curious.

 

 

Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

Dressing in a manner which is so different does attract attention.

 

Having grown up in a community which dresses different, the point is, I lived in the community so the manner of dress was common everyday dress. As the Amish say, it was plain. However, outside the community, it definitely drew attention. To those outside the community, it was anything but plain, or even modest. The differing clothes became a symbol of my difference. That can be good or bad.  Of course, teens thru 20's dress different then their parents to show individuality. It is a symbol of their difference.  

 

In an Amish community, they are dressing modestly, but outside of the Amish community, they attract attention. Amish dress is anything but dressing modestly to 'English'. Christians live in the world but are not of the world. Living in the world, I think you adapt to what is 'modest' in that culture.  

 

The Amish do not want to recognize our world.We are outsiders.Do you blame them?Look at our world.It is dark and evil.Look at the way women dress in our world.I would take Amish apparel anyday over what I see at the grocery store.Very scary

 

 

What I see in the world, are people who are lost and in great need of salvation. I see there is evil trying to make sure people remain lost, trying to convince them of all kinds of things are fun and make them free in order to keep them lost. At that point, I don't care how they dress.  

 

When trying to appear modest, we are trying to appear modest to people around us. If I wore Amish clothes, and walked thru a mall, or into a church, I would likely draw a lot of attention. And curiosity. I would be approached by people who are curious and want to talk.  

[WIP]

Just adding my take;

 

What is considered modest will vary from culture to culture. In Orthodox Judaism, wearing red is considered immodest. In others, dressing well is considered the norm. In some, it would be wrong to not wear some form of jewelry.

 

For 1 Tim 2, in that culture prostitutes braided their hair with gold. In other cultures during biblical times, pagan temple priestesses shaved their heads.

 

Amish dress in what they consider modest clothing, but in these modern times, they stand out tremendously.  Is it modest to dress so differently so as to stand out and attract attention?

 

We should stand out from the world because we are different vastly different....in this scripture we are told that the world thought it strange that the believers did not take part in the wild living of the lost, no doubt that attracted attention.....so why should'nt our dress code be so different ?

 

1 Peter 4:4  Wherein they think it strange that you run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: